45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 8)

[Down and out]

Seventy said:

I am neither being rude or insulting, just factual.
Your one line quips add nothing to any thread you 'participate' in, you seem to be pretty pointless.
Added to list.

I'm quite happy with the political landscape at the moment, it's quite boring when everything goes your way. You're correct, I've nothing to be angry about so it's best left to the obsessives.

[Eric Mc]

Jimbeaux said:

Byker28i, as I stated, I would check here every other day once or twice. You are prolific in your news scouring and I commend your hard work. However, an example is this opinion piece. You do realize that there are pro-Trump opinion pieces as well that offer equally valid opinions. Do you ever post any of those or only anti-Trump ones? I ask because you appear to desire the truth, yet only post negatives.

Maybe they are hard to find.

Perhaps that could be your role - find the pro-Trump reports that AREN'T from the rabid right or pro-life religious faction.

[Byker28i]

Jimbeaux said:

Byker28i, as I stated, I would check here every other day once or twice. You are prolific in your news scouring and I commend your hard work. However, an example is this opinion piece. You do realize that there are pro-Trump opinion pieces as well that offer equally valid opinions. Do you ever post any of those or only anti-Trump ones? I ask because you appear to desire the truth, yet only post negatives.

Welcome back.
I do post all sorts, just not much is positive that is verifiable Recently I posted about the jobs figure.

So how about team trump are getting on with building the wall by waiving procurement regulations, such as bidding and vetting for who the contracts go to. This might actually allow trump to build 94 miles of his monument


The Trump administration said Tuesday that it will waive federal contracting laws to speed construction of a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Department of Homeland Security said waiving procurement regulations will allow 177 miles (283 kilometers) of wall to be built more quickly in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. The 10 waived laws include requirements for having open competition, justifying selections and receiving all bonding from a contractor before any work can begin.

The acting Homeland Security secretary, Chad Wolf, is exercising authority under a 2005 law that gives him sweeping powers to waive laws for building border barriers.
https://apnews.com/1689fa48a2e177d1f397b95ff0cb97d...

Lets hope it's not given to companies giving backhanders to trumps campaign fund eh

[Eric Mc]

That is a carte blanche recipe for skulduggery and corruption.

[Jimbeaux]

Eric Mc said:

Jimbeaux said:

Byker28i, as I stated, I would check here every other day once or twice. You are prolific in your news scouring and I commend your hard work. However, an example is this opinion piece. You do realize that there are pro-Trump opinion pieces as well that offer equally valid opinions. Do you ever post any of those or only anti-Trump ones? I ask because you appear to desire the truth, yet only post negatives.

Maybe they are hard to find.

Perhaps that could be your role - find the pro-Trump reports that AREN'T from the rabid right or pro-life religious faction.

Would that also exempt the rabid left? In addition, many of us are pro life and do not tie it to a religious faction. Is that OK; anything else we need to oppress?
ETA: I am not "back", just as a "temp timer".

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 18th February 15:00

[Jimbeaux]

Byker, any thoughts on the Ukrainian piece I linked?

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Byker28i said:

Lets hope it's not given to companies giving backhanders to trumps campaign fund eh

Never I'm sure whoever gets the Contract will have no links whatsoever with Trump or Mar a lago

[Byker28i]

Jimbeaux said:

Byker28i said:

Here we go again, the russian forces are attacking in Donbas, trying to push back Ukraine forces.

Russia testing US support for Ukraine?

https://www.unian.info/war/10876805-ukraine-report...


However several reports of the russians using heavy weapons, banned under the Minks Agreements.

remember trump sat/is sitting on a $30m weapons order from Ukraine and not delivering
https://thehill.com/policy/international/foreign-a...

Well let’s temper that with this:
Specifically regarding weapons ordered and what their effectiveness would be.

This bit is from an interview with Oleksandr Danylyuk. He is the chairman and founder of the Centre for Defense Reform, an independent think tank in Ukraine focusing on promoting development and reforms in that nation's defense and security sectors.

https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2...

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 18th February 13:47

Does it matter if it's a drop in the ocean? You're not disputing that trump is holding up an order thats been paid for...
I mean along with the holding back of aid that congress voted through for personal opportunity.

[Byker28i]

Jimbeaux said:

Byker, any thoughts on the Ukrainian piece I linked?

Just got there, sorry got work in the way as well

Interesting piece, of course your Military times also had an editorial that stated
"Any delay in arms sales has a deleterious effect on Ukraine’s fight."
https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/editorials/2...

$10m worth of ammo is quite a lot - even for an american gun lover

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 18th February 15:09

[walm]

Jimbeaux said:

So, your take on the validity of counter opinion is simply “They are lies”? Interesting.

The counter opinion has to be fact-based otherwise it is worthless. That's all I am saying.
That applies to anything anti-Trump too, of course.

[walm]

Vanden Saab said:

And why is it 4 years for Obama and two for Trump?

It (should be) 5 and 3 but you make a very valid point!

[Seventy]

Eric Mc said:

That is a carte blanche recipe for skulduggery and corruption.

QED Trump's presidency.

[Jimbeaux]

Byker28i said:

Jimbeaux said:

Byker28i said:

Here we go again, the russian forces are attacking in Donbas, trying to push back Ukraine forces.

Russia testing US support for Ukraine?

https://www.unian.info/war/10876805-ukraine-report...


However several reports of the russians using heavy weapons, banned under the Minks Agreements.

remember trump sat/is sitting on a $30m weapons order from Ukraine and not delivering
https://thehill.com/policy/international/foreign-a...

Well let’s temper that with this:
Specifically regarding weapons ordered and what their effectiveness would be.

This bit is from an interview with Oleksandr Danylyuk. He is the chairman and founder of the Centre for Defense Reform, an independent think tank in Ukraine focusing on promoting development and reforms in that nation's defense and security sectors.

https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2...

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 18th February 13:47

Does it matter if it's a drop in the ocean? You're not disputing that trump is holding up an order thats been paid for...
I mean along with the holding back of aid that congress voted through for personal opportunity.

No; your post specifically implied that the Ukrainians were going up against the Russians under armed due to the non-delivered weapons; a person in a better position to know contradicted that. BTW, when the Ukrainians begged for weapons after the Russian invasion and Obama sent them blankets, what was your response? Where are the volumes?

[Jimbeaux]

walm said:

Jimbeaux said:

So, your take on the validity of counter opinion is simply “They are lies”? Interesting.

The counter opinion has to be fact-based otherwise it is worthless. That's all I am saying.
That applies to anything anti-Trump too, of course.

Of course.

[Byker28i]

walm said:

Vanden Saab said:

And why is it 4 years for Obama and two for Trump?

It (should be) 5 and 3 but you make a very valid point!

Answered earlier - statistics are used to support an argument. I posted it as an example of stuff being directed to trump in response to his tweet, I haven't validated the figures. I gave the hashtag also.

Would you like to validate the figures? fill your boots

[Byker28i]

Jimbeaux said:

No; your post specifically implied that the Ukrainians were going up against the Russians under armed due to the non-delivered weapons; a person in a better position to know contradicted that. BTW, when the Ukrainians begged for weapons after the Russian invasion and Obama sent them blankets, what was your response? Where are the volumes?

Russian forces are again probing in Donbas
Reports that they are using heavy weapons banned in the Minsk agreement
Trump has delayed a weapons deal to Ukraine, including $10m in ammo.

Whats not true there?

As for Obama and blankets, thats not strictly true either although I can understand why you believe that as trump said it:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/donald...

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/oct/25/...

Trump did approve sending Javelin missiles to Ukraine at the end of 2017. Do you think thats why he was upset when the President changed and wouldn't provide him manufactured dirt on Biden?

[Seventy]

Jimbeaux said:

No; your post specifically implied that the Ukrainians were going up against the Russians under armed due to the non-delivered weapons; a person in a better position to know contradicted that. BTW, when the Ukrainians begged for weapons after the Russian invasion and Obama sent them blankets, what was your response? Where are the volumes?

Jim, your disingenousness is, quite frankly, astonishing.
Obama sent far more than blankets - he may or may not have sent javelins due to the perceived state of the Ukrainian military, that is open to debate in far higher channels than here - and you well know it.
And if you don't then you shouldn't be spouting it.
And the irony of Trump quoting McCain is, I'm sure, lost on you.

[Byker28i]

Eric Mc said:

Jimbeaux said:

Byker28i, as I stated, I would check here every other day once or twice. You are prolific in your news scouring and I commend your hard work. However, an example is this opinion piece. You do realize that there are pro-Trump opinion pieces as well that offer equally valid opinions. Do you ever post any of those or only anti-Trump ones? I ask because you appear to desire the truth, yet only post negatives.

Maybe they are hard to find.

Perhaps that could be your role - find the pro-Trump reports that AREN'T from the rabid right or pro-life religious faction.

I have also been posting about the Dems inability to get behind a specific candidate yet, as thats related to trump and his reelection chances. Strange how thats always overlooked...

[Vanden Saab]

Byker28i said:

walm said:

Vanden Saab said:

And why is it 4 years for Obama and two for Trump?

It (should be) 5 and 3 but you make a very valid point!

Answered earlier - statistics are used to support an argument. I posted it as an example of stuff being directed to trump in response to his tweet, I haven't validated the figures. I gave the hashtag also.

Would you like to validate the figures? fill your boots

Two years of GDP compared to four... two years of unemployment figures compared to four. I would have thought even you could see the problem... but then again....

[Byker28i]

Vanden Saab said:

Byker28i said:

walm said:

Vanden Saab said:

And why is it 4 years for Obama and two for Trump?

It (should be) 5 and 3 but you make a very valid point!

Answered earlier - statistics are used to support an argument. I posted it as an example of stuff being directed to trump in response to his tweet, I haven't validated the figures. I gave the hashtag also.

Would you like to validate the figures? fill your boots

Two years of GDP compared to four... two years of unemployment figures compared to four. I would have thought even you could see the problem... but then again....

Weird how you apply your own slant on how you want to read things, ignore other posts on the subject, but then not surprising from you I guess

Again, I didn't post that as figures just as one of the responses to what trump tweeted. I suspect figures aren't available for 2019 yet but if it bothers you so much, go find the figures