45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 8)

[Byker28i]

trump: "Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

IS that because he's insider dealing?

Down again significantly yesterday and it's claimed Coronovirus is only one reason.

Uncertainty if Sanders gets nominated: “The risk to U.S. stocks is pretty significant if Bernie gets the nomination,”
The stocks are artificially high: Even before the market slump this week, the value of stocks has been viewed as rich.
Government bonds yields have been sliding steadily as investors seek safe havens, and thus drive up bond prices,
recession fears: “Much of the immediate economic impact of a pandemic can be traced to the efforts to contain it, rather than from the effects of the disease itself. As we attempt to quarantine those who might spread the disease, we shut down a lot of economic activity.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-dow-just-log...

[NoNeed]

Electro1980 said:

No, I have academic sources and reputable third party investigation.

You are the one dismissing things and drawing false equivalence. You two are the ones who are happy with a leader who will lie.

So both of you are happy with anything Trump does as long as you get the outcome you want?

More lies are told about Trump than are told by him

[Old Man Fred]

NoNeed said:

Electro1980 said:

No, I have academic sources and reputable third party investigation.

You are the one dismissing things and drawing false equivalence. You two are the ones who are happy with a leader who will lie.

So both of you are happy with anything Trump does as long as you get the outcome you want?

More lies are told about Trump than are told by him

I should ask for sources etc but i know you could never provide them so i will just say

[rscott]

Byker28i said:

Blackpuddin said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nationwide petrol prices are around $2.20/gallon.

Here they are around $5.90 a gallon. Just saying.

and thats only because the prices have dropped by around 10p/litre because demand in virus affected areas of the world. Usually it's around £6.50 a UK gallon.

Distances in the US though are huge, so historically petrol prices are kept low to allow the necessary mobility of people and goods.

Remember a UK gallon is about 1.2 times the size of a US one though, so you can't compare prices directly.

And I'm not sure about that $2.20 figure anyway - it was around $2.60 in Atlanta last November and this site suggests it's not been below that level in most of the US for quite some time.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/USA/gasoline_pr...

How about an official US government source which disproves the $2.20 figure? https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/

Can't see it dropped below $2.20 any time since Trump took office?

Edited by rscott on Wednesday 26th February 09:43

[Escapegoat]

Jimbeaux said:

Escapegoat said:

Another squirrel, now trying to shift this to media from politicians. Why? Because it helps you to avoid talking about the Liar-in-Chief.

Here you go:



Guess which one is DJT...

Are you being simple? The media is left leaning; they back certain left leaning politicians. They even announce official endorsements. What is the mystery in the connection?

But we're talking about Trump and politicians. You play the "politicians all lie" get-out-of-jail card so that you can avoid Trump's lies.

And you think that's enough to shut down any discussion here of Trump's actual behaviour. That's just not going to work. Look, you are now up to 30% of all postings, desperately trying to drown out the actual discussion of the actual thread subject.

[vonuber]

Jimbeaux said:

You all here appear to be the oracle of all knowledge.

That's a tad defensive, isn't it, on your part.

[Byker28i]

rscott said:

Remember a UK gallon is about 1.2 times the size of a US one though, so you can't compare prices directly.

And I'm not sure about that $2.20 figure anyway - it was around $2.60 in Atlanta last November and this site suggests it's not been below that level in most of the US for quite some time.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/USA/gasoline_pr...

How about an official US government source which disproves the $2.20 figure? https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/

It was around that when I was in Tampa recently. There's a local station tells you where to get cheapest fuel $2.25 currently
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/gas-prices

I guess like here it depends which station you go to, where it is in the country...

[Carl_Manchester]

Electro1980 said:

No, I have academic sources and reputable third party investigation.

You are the one dismissing things and drawing false equivalence. You two are the ones who are happy with a leader who will lie.

So both of you are happy with anything Trump does as long as you get the outcome you want?

As long as he continues to do the job he was elected to do and to continue to keep his voters happy, Trump will carry on. Yes, this makes me happy as it is Democracy giving people a voice. You may not like what that voice is saying but there is a clear path to remove Trump in November, good luck to the competition, if he is evil incarnate, he will surely lose.

By all means turn your convincing evidence over to CNN, i am sure the five people left watching the station will be gripped.

[rscott]

Byker28i said:

rscott said:

Remember a UK gallon is about 1.2 times the size of a US one though, so you can't compare prices directly.

And I'm not sure about that $2.20 figure anyway - it was around $2.60 in Atlanta last November and this site suggests it's not been below that level in most of the US for quite some time.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/USA/gasoline_pr...

How about an official US government source which disproves the $2.20 figure? https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/

It was around that when I was in Tampa recently. There's a local station tells you where to get cheapest fuel $2.25 currently
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/gas-prices

I guess like here it depends which station you go to, where it is in the country...

Jimbeaux claimed nationwide average is around $2.20, yet the Tampa price is about the lowest in the country. Takes some strange maths for the average to be less than that

[Seventy]

rscott said:

Jimbeaux claimed nationwide average is around $2.20, yet the Tampa price is about the lowest in the country. Takes some strange maths for the average to be less than that

Jim is Kellyanne Conway.

aicmfp

Eta gas hasn't been at $2.20 average since Obama.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_gas_price

Edited by Seventy on Wednesday 26th February 10:30

[Electro1980]

Carl_Manchester said:

Electro1980 said:

No, I have academic sources and reputable third party investigation.

You are the one dismissing things and drawing false equivalence. You two are the ones who are happy with a leader who will lie.

So both of you are happy with anything Trump does as long as you get the outcome you want?

As long as he continues to do the job he was elected to do and to continue to keep his voters happy, Trump will carry on. Yes, this makes me happy as it is Democracy giving people a voice. You may not like what that voice is saying but there is a clear path to remove Trump in November, good luck to the competition, if he is evil incarnate, he will surely lose.

By all means turn your convincing evidence over to CNN, i am sure the five people left watching the station will be gripped.

Ok, so we are in agreement about what Trumps behaviour is and that you and other Trump supporters are happy to accept that behaviour as long as it gets what you want then we have a starting point for a discussion about why this is a problem.

Now, what job was he elected to do? Or is his job just to keep his voters happy, no matter the impact?

[gregs656]

NoNeed said:

More lies are told about Trump than are told by him

I don’t doubt that. Look how many people buy into the lie that he is a successful business man, or bought into the idea he was a billionaire and shared it, or lie about his integrity or intentions.

Lots of lies to diminish any idea that he him self is a compulsive liar.

You know he only ever took one loan from his father? A small one of a million dollars. Totally self made. Amazing.

One more lie about Trump, damn it.

[Countdown]

Jimbeaux said:

You all here appear to be the oracle of all knowledge.

Not me. I consider myself to be the SAP of knowledge

[Electro1980]

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

You all here appear to be the oracle of all knowledge.

Not me. I consider myself to be the SAP of knowledge

Personally I see myself more as a Sage.

[unrepentant]

Byker28i said:

Blackpuddin said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nationwide petrol prices are around $2.20/gallon.

Here they are around $5.90 a gallon. Just saying.

and thats only because the prices have dropped by around 10p/litre because demand in virus affected areas of the world. Usually it's around £6.50 a UK gallon.

Distances in the US though are huge, so historically petrol prices are kept low to allow the necessary mobility of people and goods.

They're only $2.20 if you drive a POS. Modern engines require premium and premium is averaging over $2.80. And the UK gallon is bigger than ours so not a direct comparison.

[vonuber]

unrepentant said:

They're only $2.20 if you drive a POS. Modern engines require premium and premium is averaging over $2.80.

https://youtu.be/dceB3SKBw9w

[Jimbeaux]

Byker28i said:

Electro1980 said:

Jimbeaux said:

Electro1980 said:

1) NYT is left wing, but regarded as mostly factual and accurate. Not something that can be said of Fox.

Really? Is this is where I ask for your source that the NYTs is mostly factual. Bullst.

https://www.businessinsider.com/data-finds-no-bias-in-new-york-times-trump-coverage-2019-10?r=US&IR=T

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/

"media companies have a set of rules to follow and can be heavily fined if they ignore those."

Heavily fined by who? The FCC? How do they decide what is false?

[Byker28i]

unrepentant said:

They're only $2.20 if you drive a POS. Modern engines require premium and premium is averaging over $2.80. And the UK gallon is bigger than ours so not a direct comparison.

I've wrecked that hire Mustang then - although it said regular on the filler cap...

[Carl_Manchester]

Electro1980 said:

is his job just to keep his voters happy, no matter the impact?

Yes, whilst the Democrat opposition focus on identity politics and eat each other, live on camera, in-front of a national audience.

[unrepentant]

Seventy said:

rscott said:

Jimbeaux claimed nationwide average is around $2.20, yet the Tampa price is about the lowest in the country. Takes some strange maths for the average to be less than that

Jim is Kellyanne Conway.

aicmfp

Eta gas hasn't been at $2.20 average since Obama.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_gas_price

Well both are trolls, dissemblers, racists and Trump shills. But on balance Kellyanne does it with a lot more panache and she knows when lying, the other is just repeating disinformation he reads and believes online.