45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 8)

[Byker28i]

So as said previously, slowly the information refused by trumps impeachment is coming out, even though the the State Department and the Office of Management and Budget refused to provide documents, however, new documents released show that Pompeo appeared to coordinate with Giuliani on Ukraine.

Documents released by the State Department to American Oversight make clear that Giuliani == who was acting as Trump’s personal attorney — pressed American diplomats to consider the information he’d unearthed in Kyiv about corruption. Though the documents released amount to fewer than a dozen pages of emails, they nevertheless show aides to Pompeo unambiguously receptive to Giuliani’s overtures.

“He wanted to connect with Giuliani which I was able to do lickety split,” one of the emails says. Another has staffers seemingly rescheduling a conversation between Pompeo and Sean Hannity, the primetime Fox News anchor and Trump confidant

https://news.yahoo.com/pompeo-appeared-to-coordina...


Full details and copies are on the American Oversight website
https://www.americanoversight.org/new-state-depart...

[Jimbeaux]

Blackpuddin said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nationwide petrol prices are around $2.20/gallon.

Here they are around $5.90 a gallon. Just saying.

I am well aware of that; you have similar regulation and tax structure to California I would assume. Most of us don't prescribe to that. There is no reason for their fuel to cost that much. Their Governor, Gavin Newsome, had his AG launch an investigation as to why petrol was so high, blaming "big oil companies". That was a smokescreen for the thick because oil is the same price nationwide, it is taxes and amount of state regulation that determine price difference state to state

[Jimbeaux]

Byker28i said:

Blackpuddin said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nationwide petrol prices are around $2.20/gallon.

Here they are around $5.90 a gallon. Just saying.

and thats only because the prices have dropped by around 10p/litre because demand in virus affected areas of the world. Usually it's around £6.50 a UK gallon.

Distances in the US though are huge, so historically petrol prices are kept low to allow the necessary mobility of people and goods.

They are kept low due to rising domestic oil production, and lower taxes. The government cannot "keep prices low". They rise when there is a production interruption or if someone acts up in the ME.

[Electro1980]

Carl_Manchester said:

Yes, whilst the Democrat opposition focus on identity politics and eat each other, live on camera, in-front of a national audience.

Good. So now we know that it’s not that his supporters don’t know what he does but that they think the rule of law is not important. Dismantling the checks and balances in the system, destroying trust in the government, attacking the judiciary and undermining the judicial process. Using the office to make money and build your business, protect your friends and destroy anyone who does not agree. All good as long as his core voters are happy. All because the other side care about minorities and think, maybe, that sexual assault might be a bad thing.

Ok. At least we know what we are dealing with now.

[Jimbeaux]

Electro1980 said:

No, I have academic sources and reputable third party investigation.

You are the one dismissing things and drawing false equivalence. You two are the ones who are happy with a leader who will lie.

So both of you are happy with anything Trump does as long as you get the outcome you want?

Yea that's probably it.

[Jimbeaux]

Byker28i said:

trump: "Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

IS that because he's insider dealing?

Down again significantly yesterday and it's claimed Coronovirus is only one reason.

Uncertainty if Sanders gets nominated: “The risk to U.S. stocks is pretty significant if Bernie gets the nomination,”
The stocks are artificially high: Even before the market slump this week, the value of stocks has been viewed as rich.
Government bonds yields have been sliding steadily as investors seek safe havens, and thus drive up bond prices,
recession fears: “Much of the immediate economic impact of a pandemic can be traced to the efforts to contain it, rather than from the effects of the disease itself. As we attempt to quarantine those who might spread the disease, we shut down a lot of economic activity.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-dow-just-log...

These are the same experts that claimed the market would crash the day Trump was inaugurated.

[Byker28i]

Jimbeaux said:

These are the same experts that claimed the market would crash the day Trump was inaugurated.

It's OK JIm, it's all the Fake news fault, even though he said it was all fine. oh if only he could spell...

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 2h
Low Ratings Fake News MSDNC (Comcast) & @CNN are doing everything possible to make the Caronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible. Likewise their incompetent Do Nothing Democrat comrades are all talk, no action. USA in great shape! @CDCgov.....

[Jimbeaux]

rscott said:

Byker28i said:

Blackpuddin said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nationwide petrol prices are around $2.20/gallon.

Here they are around $5.90 a gallon. Just saying.

and thats only because the prices have dropped by around 10p/litre because demand in virus affected areas of the world. Usually it's around £6.50 a UK gallon.

Distances in the US though are huge, so historically petrol prices are kept low to allow the necessary mobility of people and goods.

Remember a UK gallon is about 1.2 times the size of a US one though, so you can't compare prices directly.

And I'm not sure about that $2.20 figure anyway - it was around $2.60 in Atlanta last November and this site suggests it's not been below that level in most of the US for quite some time.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/USA/gasoline_pr...

How about an official US government source which disproves the $2.20 figure? https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/

Can't see it dropped below $2.20 any time since Trump took office?

Edited by rscott on Wednesday 26th February 09:43

It is $1.89 gallon at Costco on up to 2.24 elsewhere in my city. I believe todays average nationwide is between 2.30-2.40. Several state are between $1.89-2.24.
An imperial gallon is 1.2 to the US gallon.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 26th February 15:38

[Byker28i]

Jimbeaux said:

They are kept low due to rising domestic oil production, and lower taxes. The government cannot "keep prices low". They rise when there is a production interruption or if someone acts up in the ME.

Here we pay a HUGE amount of tax on fuel, then VAT on that, so the govt have a huge impact on the fuel price. Thats what I meant when your prices are low as it isn't heavily taxed.

[Jimbeaux]

Escapegoat said:

Jimbeaux said:

Escapegoat said:

Another squirrel, now trying to shift this to media from politicians. Why? Because it helps you to avoid talking about the Liar-in-Chief.

Here you go:



Guess which one is DJT...

Are you being simple? The media is left leaning; they back certain left leaning politicians. They even announce official endorsements. What is the mystery in the connection?

But we're talking about Trump and politicians. You play the "politicians all lie" get-out-of-jail card so that you can avoid Trump's lies.

And you think that's enough to shut down any discussion here of Trump's actual behaviour. That's just not going to work. Look, you are now up to 30% of all postings, desperately trying to drown out the actual discussion of the actual thread subject.

Not at all Goat; I've answered the same questions about how I feel about Trump over and over on here. There just are so many ways to answer the same thing.
As I have also said over and over, my post count is up because most of the questions or hits are aimed at me; therefore it stands to reason that I will post more to respond. Come on, if I weren't here you lot would eventually get bored talking to fellow haters, nobody disagreeing with you. Your backs would be sore from all of the slapping.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 26th February 15:42

[Jimbeaux]

vonuber said:

Jimbeaux said:

You all here appear to be the oracle of all knowledge.

That's a tad defensive, isn't it, on your part.

Not really, it was a humorous jab from the older days of PH. Someone asking a question to the "all knowing PH universe". It usually produced an answer too. My question was a genuine one. You skipped that and commented on my preamble.

[Jimbeaux]

Byker28i said:

rscott said:

Remember a UK gallon is about 1.2 times the size of a US one though, so you can't compare prices directly.

And I'm not sure about that $2.20 figure anyway - it was around $2.60 in Atlanta last November and this site suggests it's not been below that level in most of the US for quite some time.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/USA/gasoline_pr...

How about an official US government source which disproves the $2.20 figure? https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/

It was around that when I was in Tampa recently. There's a local station tells you where to get cheapest fuel $2.25 currently
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/gas-prices

I guess like here it depends which station you go to, where it is in the country...

That is very true.

[Jimbeaux]

rscott said:

Byker28i said:

rscott said:

Remember a UK gallon is about 1.2 times the size of a US one though, so you can't compare prices directly.

And I'm not sure about that $2.20 figure anyway - it was around $2.60 in Atlanta last November and this site suggests it's not been below that level in most of the US for quite some time.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/USA/gasoline_pr...

How about an official US government source which disproves the $2.20 figure? https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/

It was around that when I was in Tampa recently. There's a local station tells you where to get cheapest fuel $2.25 currently
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/gas-prices

I guess like here it depends which station you go to, where it is in the country...

Jimbeaux claimed nationwide average is around $2.20, yet the Tampa price is about the lowest in the country. Takes some strange maths for the average to be less than that

The Tampa price is by no means the lowest in the country. Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, and Texas IIRC are lower. Changes weekly though.

[Jimbeaux]

Seventy said:

rscott said:

Jimbeaux claimed nationwide average is around $2.20, yet the Tampa price is about the lowest in the country. Takes some strange maths for the average to be less than that

Jim is Kellyanne Conway.

aicmfp

Eta gas hasn't been at $2.20 average since Obama.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_gas_price

Edited by Seventy on Wednesday 26th February 10:30

$1.99 gallon in these place in my city for example:

https://www.gasbuddy.com/GasPrices/Louisiana/Baton...

It's OK, I should know better, I am 3 miles from the pumps, your are 4,200.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 26th February 15:54

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

You all here appear to be the oracle of all knowledge.

Not me. I consider myself to be the SAP of knowledge

and I wouldn't doubt it.

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

Byker28i said:

Blackpuddin said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nationwide petrol prices are around $2.20/gallon.

Here they are around $5.90 a gallon. Just saying.

and thats only because the prices have dropped by around 10p/litre because demand in virus affected areas of the world. Usually it's around £6.50 a UK gallon.

Distances in the US though are huge, so historically petrol prices are kept low to allow the necessary mobility of people and goods.

They're only $2.20 if you drive a POS. Modern engines require premium and premium is averaging over $2.80. And the UK gallon is bigger than ours so not a direct comparison.

True; but premium (two of my three vehicles) is 2.49 at Costsco here. Different everywhere of course. Still far cheaper than the UK. Imperial gallon is 1.2 of a US one.

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

Seventy said:

rscott said:

Jimbeaux claimed nationwide average is around $2.20, yet the Tampa price is about the lowest in the country. Takes some strange maths for the average to be less than that

Jim is Kellyanne Conway.

aicmfp

Eta gas hasn't been at $2.20 average since Obama.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_gas_price

Well both are trolls, dissemblers, racists and Trump shills. But on balance Kellyanne does it with a lot more panache and she knows when lying, the other is just repeating disinformation he reads and believes online.

You are so kind; a gentle sort of soul.

[Jimbeaux]

Electro1980 said:

Carl_Manchester said:

Yes, whilst the Democrat opposition focus on identity politics and eat each other, live on camera, in-front of a national audience.

Good. So now we know that it’s not that his supporters don’t know what he does but that they think the rule of law is not important. Dismantling the checks and balances in the system, destroying trust in the government, attacking the judiciary and undermining the judicial process. Using the office to make money and build your business, protect your friends and destroy anyone who does not agree. All good as long as his core voters are happy. All because the other side care about minorities and think, maybe, that sexual assault might be a bad thing.

Ok. At least we know what we are dealing with now.

Man you sure have bought into a load of BS.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 26th February 16:06

[Jimbeaux]

Byker28i said:

Jimbeaux said:

They are kept low due to rising domestic oil production, and lower taxes. The government cannot "keep prices low". They rise when there is a production interruption or if someone acts up in the ME.

Here we pay a HUGE amount of tax on fuel, then VAT on that, so the govt have a huge impact on the fuel price. Thats what I meant when your prices are low as it isn't heavily taxed.

Do you pay a VAT on top of standard fuel taxes? I thought that was separated for some reason? That's brutal.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 26th February 16:06

[Electro1980]

Jimbeaux said:

Electro1980 said:

Carl_Manchester said:

Yes, whilst the Democrat opposition focus on identity politics and eat each other, live on camera, in-front of a national audience.

Good. So now we know that it’s not that his supporters don’t know what he does but that they think the rule of law is not important. Dismantling the checks and balances in the system, destroying trust in the government, attacking the judiciary and undermining the judicial process. Using the office to make money and build your business, protect your friends and destroy anyone who does not agree. All good as long as his core voters are happy. All because the other side care about minorities and think, maybe, that sexual assault might be a bad thing.

Ok. At least we know what we are dealing with now.

Man you sure have bought into a load of BS.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 26th February 16:06

Really? That’s your reply when I explain the impact? I can give you evidence of every single one of those things. There is noting BS about it. You can sit and sing “lalalaitsnotreal” if you want to ignore this, but it’s real. Unfortunately you and Trumps other supporters just reject any facts as false even when they are objectively verifiable. You go ahead and keep on denying it. All you are doing is showing the depths of your own disregard for others.