No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

[Countdown]

anonymous said:

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There are probably a 101 rules your employer expects you to follow. In exchange for them he agrees to pay you £X per year.

That’s what it boils down to. Focussing on “this” issue is meaningless. If they pay enough they’ll get people who are happy with the rules, and that’s all they need. It doesn’t matter at all to them whether it upsets you, me or anybody else. That’s why ranting and raving about how it’s all so unfair and draconian is a waste of hot air.

[surveyor]

I'm away travelling for 3 days / 2 nights a week most weeks. Our expenses policy is not overly strict, and fortunately I think it's a long time before we would see this policy brought in.

For me it would be a nightmare. I'm sensitive to some types of food, so have my go to options that won't cause me grief. Vegetarian options come with all sorts of junk on them typically, which frankly is my worst nightmare. No thanks.

I occasionally get told it must be nice to go out on the business a couple of times a week - but actually it is usually a case of dragging myself into some business hotel, a quick meal (or room service) and spending a couple of hours catching up with email. I'm travelling for work, not having fun.

If this firm had told the vegi's that they were being banned there would have been uproar. I actually do think it is discrimination.

[Agammemnon]

bhstewie said:

I really don't understand how people can't manage for a day without eating meat

We once had the vegetarian go to pick up food supplies for the team. Being vegetarian she naturally imposed her views on the food choices & came back with solely veggie options despite knowing she was the only veggie there. It wasn't practical for us to make a second supply trip.

I can manage fine without eating meat but I object to people trying to impose their views on others.

[anonymous-user]

Countdown said:

anonymous said:

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There are probably a 101 rules your employer expects you to follow. In exchange for them he agrees to pay you £X per year.

That’s what it boils down to. Focussing on “this” issue is meaningless. If they pay enough they’ll get people who are happy with the rules, and that’s all they need. It doesn’t matter at all to them whether it upsets you, me or anybody else. That’s why ranting and raving about how it’s all so unfair and draconian is a waste of hot air.

Say what you like, as snidely as you like, my opinion is that employers' control over employees should be minimised and any attempt to increase control over lifestyle choices and personal choices should be resisted.

[chrispmartha]

surveyor said:

I'm away travelling for 3 days / 2 nights a week most weeks. Our expenses policy is not overly strict, and fortunately I think it's a long time before we would see this policy brought in.

For me it would be a nightmare. I'm sensitive to some types of food, so have my go to options that won't cause me grief. Vegetarian options come with all sorts of junk on them typically, which frankly is my worst nightmare. No thanks.

I occasionally get told it must be nice to go out on the business a couple of times a week - but actually it is usually a case of dragging myself into some business hotel, a quick meal (or room service) and spending a couple of hours catching up with email. I'm travelling for work, not having fun.

If this firm had told the vegi's that they were being banned there would have been uproar. I actually do think it is discrimination.

Talk me through how they would ban a vegetarian?, and how meat eaters are being banned in this situation?

[Cotty]

chrispmartha said:

Why can’t it be vegetarian?

And why does it matter?

What about a Burger?

Because sausages are a meat product. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sausage Take the meat away and it ceases to be a sausage. Likewise with burgers

Take meatballs they are literally a ball of meat but some companies think they can sell "meat free meatballs", but if you take the meat out it ceases to be a ball of meat. They think they can take out an ingredient replace it with something else and still call it the same thing. Its like doing something retarded like replacing the avocado from avocado on toast with marmalade and calling it marmalade avocado on toast. Or a coffee free Americano,

You cant replace the ingredient that defines something and replace it with something else and still call it the same thing, it doesn't make sense.

[surveyor]

chrispmartha said:

surveyor said:

I'm away travelling for 3 days / 2 nights a week most weeks. Our expenses policy is not overly strict, and fortunately I think it's a long time before we would see this policy brought in.

For me it would be a nightmare. I'm sensitive to some types of food, so have my go to options that won't cause me grief. Vegetarian options come with all sorts of junk on them typically, which frankly is my worst nightmare. No thanks.

I occasionally get told it must be nice to go out on the business a couple of times a week - but actually it is usually a case of dragging myself into some business hotel, a quick meal (or room service) and spending a couple of hours catching up with email. I'm travelling for work, not having fun.

If this firm had told the vegi's that they were being banned there would have been uproar. I actually do think it is discrimination.

Talk me through how they would ban a vegetarian?, and how meat eaters are being banned in this situation?

I think you can work out what I mean.

[chrispmartha]

Cotty said:

chrispmartha said:

Why can’t it be vegetarian?

And why does it matter?

What about a Burger?

Because sausages are a meat product. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sausage Take the meat away and it ceases to be a sausage. Likewise with burgers

Take meatballs they are literally a ball of meat but some companies think they can sell "meat free meatballs", but if you take the meat out it ceases to be a ball of meat. They think they can take out an ingredient replace it with something else and still call it the same thing. Its like doing something retarded like replacing the avocado from avocado on toast with marmalade and calling it marmalade avocado on toast. Or a coffee free Americano,

You cant replace the ingredient that defines something and replace it with something else and still call it the same thing, it doesn't make sense.

Who’s ‘they’?


Anyway you didn’t answer the question, why does it matter?

[chrispmartha]

surveyor said:

chrispmartha said:

surveyor said:

I'm away travelling for 3 days / 2 nights a week most weeks. Our expenses policy is not overly strict, and fortunately I think it's a long time before we would see this policy brought in.

For me it would be a nightmare. I'm sensitive to some types of food, so have my go to options that won't cause me grief. Vegetarian options come with all sorts of junk on them typically, which frankly is my worst nightmare. No thanks.

I occasionally get told it must be nice to go out on the business a couple of times a week - but actually it is usually a case of dragging myself into some business hotel, a quick meal (or room service) and spending a couple of hours catching up with email. I'm travelling for work, not having fun.

If this firm had told the vegi's that they were being banned there would have been uproar. I actually do think it is discrimination.

Talk me through how they would ban a vegetarian?, and how meat eaters are being banned in this situation?

I think you can work out what I mean.

No I’m genuinely baffled how ‘they’ would ban the vegi’s (sic)?

[anonymous-user]

chrispmartha said:

No I’m genuinely baffled how ‘they’ would ban the vegi’s (sic)?

You're being deliberately obtuse and childish here.

[surveyor]

chrispmartha said:

surveyor said:

chrispmartha said:

surveyor said:

I'm away travelling for 3 days / 2 nights a week most weeks. Our expenses policy is not overly strict, and fortunately I think it's a long time before we would see this policy brought in.

For me it would be a nightmare. I'm sensitive to some types of food, so have my go to options that won't cause me grief. Vegetarian options come with all sorts of junk on them typically, which frankly is my worst nightmare. No thanks.

I occasionally get told it must be nice to go out on the business a couple of times a week - but actually it is usually a case of dragging myself into some business hotel, a quick meal (or room service) and spending a couple of hours catching up with email. I'm travelling for work, not having fun.

If this firm had told the vegi's that they were being banned there would have been uproar. I actually do think it is discrimination.

Talk me through how they would ban a vegetarian?, and how meat eaters are being banned in this situation?

I think you can work out what I mean.

No I’m genuinely baffled how ‘they’ would ban the vegi’s (sic)?

Ban paying for vegetarian food.... Better?

[Cotty]

chrispmartha said:

Who’s ‘they’?


Anyway you didn’t answer the question, why does it matter?

Its easy to google who they are
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=ALeKk03mPmXr...

It matters because its incorrect. If I ask for a sausage, I don't expect to be asked meat or vegetarian, the ingredients of the thing I asked for negates the question.

[Cotty]

anonymous said:

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I was just thinking that myself.

[chrispmartha]

Cotty said:

chrispmartha said:

Who’s ‘they’?


Anyway you didn’t answer the question, why does it matter?

Its easy to google who they are
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=ALeKk03mPmXr...

It matters because its incorrect. If I ask for a sausage, I don't expect to be asked meat or vegetarian, the ingredients of the thing I asked for negates the question.

Have you been asked that?

I never have, anyway, even if I had it really wouldn’t be very high on my list of things to be bothered about, but each to their own.

What would you prefer a vegetarian sausage be called?

Does egg free mayonnaise annoy you aswell?

Edited by chrispmartha on Tuesday 18th February 21:16

[anonymous-user]

When they sit down for a Christmas meal with their best sub-contractors or project partner companies and the lads at the drylining company, who are having none of this veggie stuff, say that they're having turkey, pigs in blankets and sprouts with bacon bits I wonder how long the MD will mull over whether he/she should pop that through the company account or put their own money where their mouth is and pay it from their own pocket.
Values, bks!

[Cotty]

chrispmartha said:

What would you prefer a vegetarian sausage be called?

I don't know, why don't you come up with a name.

[phope]

My previous employer, as I'm sure other employers have as well, had a policy that if you were staying overnight away on business, then the company would reimburse up to £25 for an evening meal of your choice, including a maximum of one alcoholic drink, and asked for an itemised receipt to stop people claiming 5 pints as a meal and one pint.

That seems fair & reasonable to me - however, it wouldn't seem fair and reasonable for an employer to say that say perhaps you had a dish containing meat then they wouldn't cover the cost at all when they'd pick up the tab for someone that didn't have meat.

It wouldn't take a big leap from this Igloo policy for some other employer to virtue-signal by introducing a policy that if you had a soft carbonated drink like Coke or Pepsi then that wouldn't be reimbursed because of sugar/health concerns, or calorie-rich desserts wouldn't be paid for either for obesity prevention...

"I'll have the sustainably caught fish, quinoa, salad and tap water please..."

[Agammemnon]

Lentilist said:

Put to a vote and passed with minimal dissent. Democracy in action, will of the people...

Interesting username.

Minimal dissent can mean whatever the boss chooses it to mean, possibly that nobody dared object. As for democracy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_major...

[chrispmartha]

Cotty said:

chrispmartha said:

What would you prefer a vegetarian sausage be called?

I don't know, why don't you come up with a name.

There’s already a perfectly good name, ‘Vegetarian Sausages’

;-)

[Cotty]

chrispmartha said:

There’s already a perfectly good name, ‘Vegetarian Sausages’

;-)

Doesn't exist