No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

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Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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slightlyoldgit said:
...occasionally you get a bit of a cockwomble here...
Not enough steak & eggs to keep the old noggin running smoothly wink

slightlyoldgit

572 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Kenny Powers said:
slightlyoldgit said:
...occasionally you get a bit of a cockwomble here...
Not enough steak & eggs to keep the old noggin running smoothly wink
Mine runs on caffeine, poor decisions and gin... smile

borcy

2,891 posts

57 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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phope said:
Meat based vegetables?

rev-erend

21,421 posts

285 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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I say f*** them. Claim expenses for food as normal. If questioned or denied, quit and take the company to court.

If they wanted me to wear a turban, hijab etc, it would be the same.

bitchstewie

51,319 posts

211 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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rev-erend said:
I say f*** them. Claim expenses for food as normal. If questioned or denied, quit and take the company to court.

If they wanted me to wear a turban, hijab etc, it would be the same.
Yeah it would definitely be exactly the same hehe

DaveGrohl

894 posts

98 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Woody John said:
Cheeses of Nazareth said:
Woody John said:
Went to a conference last week and they announced the lunch spread was all vegan, because cow farts are warming the planet apparently.
So why hold a conference and not a Webex..

At that point I am leaving to go get proper food.
Quite. The irony was because of the chosen location most people had a 150 mile round trip for a half day event.
Tokenism at its worst.
Christ alive. We're polluting the planet but we feel a bit guilty about it so let's blame those people over there while we continue unaffected.

How do some of these people find employment?

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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DaveGrohl said:
How do some of these people find employment?
Because Big Vegan - the Seventh-day Adventist’s Church (evolution deniers), EAT Lancet and their dozens of commercial partners, have used their billions to lobby governments and propagandise the public consciousness into believing that all of the universe’s problems are caused by Big Meat. Therefore nothing else matters. Including reality and common sense.

Click for more information; the five universal laws of human stupidity


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Kenny Powers said:
DaveGrohl said:
How do some of these people find employment?
Because Big Vegan - the Seventh-day Adventist’s Church (evolution deniers), EAT Lancet and their dozens of commercial partners, have used their billions to lobby governments and propagandise the public consciousness into believing that all of the universe’s problems are caused by Big Meat. Therefore nothing else matters. Including reality and common sense.

Click for more information; the five universal laws of human stupidity
So it seems to be a case of attempted banditry but actual stupidity!
As I said before, it would have been possible to have presented an intelligent win-win proposal, where you gained by making the v choice but lost nothing by declining, even though it was based around a potentially stupid belief.

csd19

2,192 posts

118 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Woody John said:
Your staff are looking for the door, you better believe it.
You should be looking for Specsavers, it was Countdown who said they were implementing the restrictive car loan policy, not Slightlyoldgit...

Countdown

39,955 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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csd19 said:
Woody John said:
Your staff are looking for the door, you better believe it.
You should be looking for Specsavers, it was Countdown who said they were implementing the restrictive car loan policy, not Slightlyoldgit...
Carrots are supposed to be good for eyesight...... hehe

And staff wont “look for the door” because of the changes we’ve made to the Expenses Policy because (a) the changes only affect a small proportion of staff (b) the Union was happy to agree to it (c) we pay relatively high wages and (d) Most of our staff are based in Manchester and London and use public transport anyway.

otolith

56,177 posts

205 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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What do you need a union for, when you are delighted for your employer to impose upon you any conditions which are legal?

slightlyoldgit

572 posts

201 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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otolith said:
What do you need a union for, when you are delighted for your employer to impose upon you any conditions which are legal?
If you have unionised employees then you always consult the union on any changes to T's & C's.

Thankfully not a problem I have any more....

Countdown

39,955 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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otolith said:
What do you need a union for, when you are delighted for your employer to impose upon you any conditions which are legal?
I’m not sure anybody has made the assertion that Employees are always delighted about what their Employers want to do confused AIUI even the Company in the original post consulted with their staff before putting this rule in place. It’s just good management practice.

otolith

56,177 posts

205 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Countdown said:
otolith said:
What do you need a union for, when you are delighted for your employer to impose upon you any conditions which are legal?
I’m not sure anybody has made the assertion that Employees are always delighted about what their Employers want to do confused AIUI even the Company in the original post consulted with their staff before putting this rule in place. It’s just good management practice.
Sure sounds that way;

Countdown said:
There’s no compulsory requirement for the Company to reimburse meals taken on works business. In that respect it’s no different to the Compoany “Xmas Do”.

Companies make numerous impositions on employees. For example some require Male employees to wear shirt and tie (no such imposition on female employees”. Some on’t allow tattoos which are visible to customers. In short, companies have lots of rules and regulations, some of which make sense, others which may not.

It actually IS their damn business. If people dont like it they know where the door is.

Countdown

39,955 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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otolith said:
Countdown said:
otolith said:
What do you need a union for, when you are delighted for your employer to impose upon you any conditions which are legal?
I’m not sure anybody has made the assertion that Employees are always delighted about what their Employers want to do confused AIUI even the Company in the original post consulted with their staff before putting this rule in place. It’s just good management practice.
Sure sounds that way;

Countdown said:
There’s no compulsory requirement for the Company to reimburse meals taken on works business. In that respect it’s no different to the Compoany “Xmas Do”.

Companies make numerous impositions on employees. For example some require Male employees to wear shirt and tie (no such imposition on female employees”. Some on’t allow tattoos which are visible to customers. In short, companies have lots of rules and regulations, some of which make sense, others which may not.

It actually IS their damn business. If people dont like it they know where the door is.
Maybe it’s down to interpretation but I don’t see my statements as being contradictory

1.;Employees aren’t always delighted about rules imposed upon them.
2. Companies make numerous impositions.
3.;If employees dont like it they can leave.
4. It’s good management practice to consult with employees.
5. That doesn’t mean we can only do what they choose to accept.

HTH

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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It's good management practice to understand there are certain areas where they have no authority and valid reason to venture into.

Woody John

759 posts

74 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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csd19 said:
Woody John said:
Your staff are looking for the door, you better believe it.
You should be looking for Specsavers, it was Countdown who said they were implementing the restrictive car loan policy, not Slightlyoldgit...
The self centered old git got his arse handed to him. Should stay out of comments aimed at others.

slightlyoldgit

572 posts

201 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Woody John said:
csd19 said:
Woody John said:
Your staff are looking for the door, you better believe it.
You should be looking for Specsavers, it was Countdown who said they were implementing the restrictive car loan policy, not Slightlyoldgit...
The self centered old git got his arse handed to him. Should stay out of comments aimed at others.
rofl bless you poppet.

Countdown

39,955 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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anonymous said:
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They clearly DO have the authority since they’ve done it and nobody can stop them.

Whether it’s a valid reason is a matter of opinion.

otolith

56,177 posts

205 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Countdown said:
Maybe it’s down to interpretation but I don’t see my statements as being contradictory

1.;Employees aren’t always delighted about rules imposed upon them.
2. Companies make numerous impositions.
3.;If employees dont like it they can leave.
4. It’s good management practice to consult with employees.
5. That doesn’t mean we can only do what they choose to accept.

HTH
So again, what do you need a union for? If you don't like it, you know where the door is.

That really doesn't sound like your normal position on employee relations, though, so I suspect that in this case you simply sympathise with the measure.