No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

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Cheeses of Nazareth

789 posts

51 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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oyster said:
I'd take it as attempting to align with a wider corporate policy.
That's the norm.

You can't set a corporate policy of trying to reduce meat consumption, for example, and then pay for people to eat meat. That would be bizarre.
If it was me, i'd be ordering a Veggy meal , and a meat one, and claiming the veggy one even though I never touched it, just to make them pay something.

My policy is to treat bks 'policies' with the disdain they deserve.

bitchstewie

51,214 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Cheeses of Nazareth said:
If it was me, i'd be ordering a Veggy meal , and a meat one, and claiming the veggy one even though I never touched it, just to make them pay something.

My policy is to treat bks 'policies' with the disdain they deserve.
That would definitely teach them a valuable lesson.

chrispmartha

15,493 posts

129 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Cheeses of Nazareth said:
oyster said:
I'd take it as attempting to align with a wider corporate policy.
That's the norm.

You can't set a corporate policy of trying to reduce meat consumption, for example, and then pay for people to eat meat. That would be bizarre.
If it was me, i'd be ordering a Veggy meal , and a meat one, and claiming the veggy one even though I never touched it, just to make them pay something.

My policy is to treat bks 'policies' with the disdain they deserve.
Yeah, that would show em!

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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chrispmartha said:
Yeah, that would show em!
hehe

oyster

12,597 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Cheeses of Nazareth said:
oyster said:
I'd take it as attempting to align with a wider corporate policy.
That's the norm.

You can't set a corporate policy of trying to reduce meat consumption, for example, and then pay for people to eat meat. That would be bizarre.
If it was me, i'd be ordering a Veggy meal , and a meat one, and claiming the veggy one even though I never touched it, just to make them pay something.

My policy is to treat bks 'policies' with the disdain they deserve.
I rather suspect you wouldn’t be a cultural ‘fit’ for such a company anyway.

As to your suggested ‘revenge’ expense claim - whatever floats your boat!

Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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bhstewie said:
Cheeses of Nazareth said:
If it was me, i'd be ordering a Veggy meal , and a meat one, and claiming the veggy one even though I never touched it, just to make them pay something.

My policy is to treat bks 'policies' with the disdain they deserve.
That would definitely teach them a valuable lesson.
Yep. Build in some kind of "Numpty Filter" into their recruitment policy......

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39,896 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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The incentive is "If you buy a veggie meal the Company will reimburse the cost". You seem to be thinking that meal allowances are compulsory/mandatory. They're not, there is NO requirement for companies to pay subsistence allowances, or mileage allowances, or any other allowances.

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Countdown said:
The incentive is "If you buy a veggie meal the Company will reimburse the cost". You seem to be thinking that meal allowances are compulsory/mandatory. They're not, there is NO requirement for companies to pay subsistence allowances, or mileage allowances, or any other allowances.
If their policy was "If you buy a meal the Company will reimburse the cost" and it is now "If you buy a veggie meal the Company will reimburse the cost", that is not an incentive, it's a disincentive.

An incentive would be to allow veggie meals a higher £ allowance

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39,896 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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amusingduck said:
If their policy was "If you buy a meal the Company will reimburse the cost" and it is now "If you buy a veggie meal the Company will reimburse the cost", that is not an incentive, it's a disincentive.

An incentive would be to allow veggie meals a higher £ allowance
Tomayto Tomahto - is the removal of an incentive a "disincentive"?

As I said above, there's no obligation for Companies to reimburse your meal costs, and Companies change policies ALL the time. To use some common PH responses ..."Their gaff, their rules", "If you don't like it you know where the door is", "FI or FO" etc etc etc

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Yes gods, at what point in the last 25 (or so) pages did everyone forget that the company in question actually polled their staff about this, and the staff said: it's okay.

The company isn't stopping anyone from eating meat. At work or anywhere else. They're just saying they won't cover it on expenses.

And if you think that's an affront to your human rights, you don't have to work for the company. Snowflake.

k


Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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klootzak said:
Yes gods, at what point in the last 25 (or so) pages did everyone forget that the company in question actually polled their staff about this, and the staff said: it's okay.
Not dissimilar to Brexit, but that didn't stop half the country whining about it for four entire years. Just because something was voted in favour of, doesn't make it automatically ok for those that lost.

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Countdown said:
amusingduck said:
If their policy was "If you buy a meal the Company will reimburse the cost" and it is now "If you buy a veggie meal the Company will reimburse the cost", that is not an incentive, it's a disincentive.

An incentive would be to allow veggie meals a higher £ allowance
Tomayto Tomahto - is the removal of an incentive a "disincentive"?

As I said above, there's no obligation for Companies to reimburse your meal costs, and Companies change policies ALL the time. To use some common PH responses ..."Their gaff, their rules", "If you don't like it you know where the door is", "FI or FO" etc etc etc
Was the old policy an incentive? What was the non-veggie-only meal policy supposed to incentivise?

It's clear what the new policy is supposed to disincentivise, the eating of meat.

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Kenny Powers said:
Not dissimilar to Brexit, but that didn't stop half the country whining about it for four entire years. Just because something was voted in favour of, doesn't make it automatically ok for those that lost.
True. Maybe they should all shut up.

k

oyster

12,597 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Kenny Powers said:
klootzak said:
Yes gods, at what point in the last 25 (or so) pages did everyone forget that the company in question actually polled their staff about this, and the staff said: it's okay.
Not dissimilar to Brexit, but that didn't stop half the country whining about it for four entire years. Just because something was voted in favour of, doesn't make it automatically ok for those that lost.
I'd be very surprised if the internal poll was anything other than very nearly or completely unanimous.

Cheeses of Nazareth

789 posts

51 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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oyster said:
I rather suspect you wouldn’t be a cultural ‘fit’ for such a company anyway.

As to your suggested ‘revenge’ expense claim - whatever floats your boat!
But that's half the problem.

People are being hired based on things that have no bearing on their ability to do their job. Vegan hires a Vegan . So you end up with a dystopic view of the world because the view of those round the table is not representative of the real world .

And while its fine to say ' well if everyone is represented, it has to be better', you can see companies full of yoghurt knitters springing up all over the place, and anyone who voices any kind of dissent is considered to be 'off message'.

So companies openly forcing an EV only policy on employee's , when EV sales are 2% of the market isn't really on is it, same as the ' we must all use the bus '.. which is actually 'you must all use the bus , because I have a space reserved in the executive car park.

And you are right, I have worked with this type of st , and left as a result, because it breeds discontent, and resentment. What once was a company that was on the right track, turns into a place full of Man Buns,Hipster beards and comfortable shoes, and from then on , its nepotism central .

If you want eat smashed avocado on toast for breakfast , have at it , but not at the expense of my bacon roll.

bitchstewie

51,214 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Cheeses of Nazareth said:
But that's half the problem.

People are being hired based on things that have no bearing on their ability to do their job. Vegan hires a Vegan . So you end up with a dystopic view of the world because the view of those round the table is not representative of the real world .

And while its fine to say ' well if everyone is represented, it has to be better', you can see companies full of yoghurt knitters springing up all over the place, and anyone who voices any kind of dissent is considered to be 'off message'.

So companies openly forcing an EV only policy on employee's , when EV sales are 2% of the market isn't really on is it, same as the ' we must all use the bus '.. which is actually 'you must all use the bus , because I have a space reserved in the executive car park.

And you are right, I have worked with this type of st , and left as a result, because it breeds discontent, and resentment. What once was a company that was on the right track, turns into a place full of Man Buns,Hipster beards and comfortable shoes, and from then on , its nepotism central .

If you want eat smashed avocado on toast for breakfast , have at it , but not at the expense of my bacon roll.
Can I just check.

Are you a parody account?

vdn

8,911 posts

203 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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bhstewie said:
Cheeses of Nazareth said:
But that's half the problem.

People are being hired based on things that have no bearing on their ability to do their job. Vegan hires a Vegan . So you end up with a dystopic view of the world because the view of those round the table is not representative of the real world .

And while its fine to say ' well if everyone is represented, it has to be better', you can see companies full of yoghurt knitters springing up all over the place, and anyone who voices any kind of dissent is considered to be 'off message'.

So companies openly forcing an EV only policy on employee's , when EV sales are 2% of the market isn't really on is it, same as the ' we must all use the bus '.. which is actually 'you must all use the bus , because I have a space reserved in the executive car park.

And you are right, I have worked with this type of st , and left as a result, because it breeds discontent, and resentment. What once was a company that was on the right track, turns into a place full of Man Buns,Hipster beards and comfortable shoes, and from then on , its nepotism central .

If you want eat smashed avocado on toast for breakfast , have at it , but not at the expense of my bacon roll.
Can I just check.

Are you a parody account?
He's the ultimate snowflake! Laughable.

chrispmartha

15,493 posts

129 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
quotequote all
Cheeses of Nazareth said:
oyster said:
I rather suspect you wouldn’t be a cultural ‘fit’ for such a company anyway.

As to your suggested ‘revenge’ expense claim - whatever floats your boat!
But that's half the problem.

People are being hired based on things that have no bearing on their ability to do their job. Vegan hires a Vegan . So you end up with a dystopic view of the world because the view of those round the table is not representative of the real world .

And while its fine to say ' well if everyone is represented, it has to be better', you can see companies full of yoghurt knitters springing up all over the place, and anyone who voices any kind of dissent is considered to be 'off message'.

So companies openly forcing an EV only policy on employee's , when EV sales are 2% of the market isn't really on is it, same as the ' we must all use the bus '.. which is actually 'you must all use the bus , because I have a space reserved in the executive car park.

And you are right, I have worked with this type of st , and left as a result, because it breeds discontent, and resentment. What once was a company that was on the right track, turns into a place full of Man Buns,Hipster beards and comfortable shoes, and from then on , its nepotism central .

If you want eat smashed avocado on toast for breakfast , have at it , but not at the expense of my bacon roll.
Im sure the companies you left really miss you ;-)

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Cheeses of Nazareth said:
Vegan hires a Vegan .
How would that even come up in a interview.



Oh, wait.

Cheeses of Nazareth

789 posts

51 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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chrispmartha said:
Im sure the companies you left really miss you ;-)
They do, which is why they pay me more money when they try and get me back.