No More Coal !
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WTAF do these policy making people think that banning coal for domestic use will go down with the non urban population?
Do any of them ever leave the city?
In rural areas it is still very common to have an open fire and or solid fuel heating. What will happen to the local coal merchant?
Heritage railways e.t.c.
I have a "Stanley" solid fuel burner which I use in the colder winter months and it cuts down my waste as I can burn a lot of it.
This will not go down well in the rural areas.
eta quote:
The changes will mean:
Sales of bagged traditional house coal will be phased out by February 2021, and the sale of loose coal direct to customers will end by 2023
Do any of them ever leave the city?
In rural areas it is still very common to have an open fire and or solid fuel heating. What will happen to the local coal merchant?
Heritage railways e.t.c.
I have a "Stanley" solid fuel burner which I use in the colder winter months and it cuts down my waste as I can burn a lot of it.
This will not go down well in the rural areas.
eta quote:
The changes will mean:
Sales of bagged traditional house coal will be phased out by February 2021, and the sale of loose coal direct to customers will end by 2023
Edited by Scotty2 on Friday 21st February 10:19
Scotty2 said:
WTAF do these policy making people think that banning coal for domestic use will go down with the non urban population?
Do any of them ever leave the city?
In rural areas it is still very common to have an open fire and or solid fuel heating. What will happen to the local coal merchant?
Heritage railways e.t.c.
I have a "Stanley" solid fuel burner which I use in the colder winter months and it cuts down my waste as I can burn a lot of it.
This will not go down well in the rural areas.
Do you happen to have loads of waste coal lying around then?Do any of them ever leave the city?
In rural areas it is still very common to have an open fire and or solid fuel heating. What will happen to the local coal merchant?
Heritage railways e.t.c.
I have a "Stanley" solid fuel burner which I use in the colder winter months and it cuts down my waste as I can burn a lot of it.
This will not go down well in the rural areas.
Seriously though, how many people rely on coal for domestic heating? We use wood in our burner (and any numpty knows it needs to be seasoned).
Old railways? I would be would get an exemption. At least for a while. But one assumes there are likely to be alternatives that could be used??
People have been burning wood, on every continent, in every country, since humans discovered fire..... WTAF do they think they're going to achieve.
Banning the the burning of coal and wood is going to add 1/2hr to the average lifespan of a human????
The amount of pollution coming of a domestic fire must be completely insignificant to a bonfire, a barbecue, a forest fire, or half of australia going up in flames.
Get real......
Banning the the burning of coal and wood is going to add 1/2hr to the average lifespan of a human????
The amount of pollution coming of a domestic fire must be completely insignificant to a bonfire, a barbecue, a forest fire, or half of australia going up in flames.
Get real......
super7 said:
People have been burning wood, on every continent, in every country, since humans discovered fire..... WTAF do they think they're going to achieve.
Banning the the burning of coal and wood is going to add 1/2hr to the average lifespan of a human????
The amount of pollution coming of a domestic fire must be completely insignificant to a bonfire, a barbecue, a forest fire, or half of australia going up in flames.
Get real......
It's such a load of old bks, isn't it. The other cracker today is that Heathrow Airport is going to be carbon neutral by 2030 or some such. Wow! Impressive, eh? But no - it doesn't actually include planes, which is what people actually think about when they thing of airports and pollution. Neither does it include retailers in there, or runway construction. Banning the the burning of coal and wood is going to add 1/2hr to the average lifespan of a human????
The amount of pollution coming of a domestic fire must be completely insignificant to a bonfire, a barbecue, a forest fire, or half of australia going up in flames.
Get real......
So it's actually a load of lip-service, headline making utter tosh, like the rest of all this carbon rubbish that keeps coming out. Do they think the public are all thick as mince?
Sheepshanks said:
I read that particulate pollution in parts of London is worse from wood burners than from diesel vehicles. The three houses opposite ours have wood burners and on still evenings it stings your eyes outside.
And as usual the solution for London/south east - whether or not it is needed or appropriate - is wheeled out to the rest of the UK. super7 said:
People have been burning wood, on every continent, in every country, since humans discovered fire..... WTAF do they think they're going to achieve.
Banning the the burning of coal and wood is going to add 1/2hr to the average lifespan of a human????
The amount of pollution coming of a domestic fire must be completely insignificant to a bonfire, a barbecue, a forest fire, or half of australia going up in flames.
Get real......
Shhhh! Don't mention barbecues!Banning the the burning of coal and wood is going to add 1/2hr to the average lifespan of a human????
The amount of pollution coming of a domestic fire must be completely insignificant to a bonfire, a barbecue, a forest fire, or half of australia going up in flames.
Get real......
Is this bad news for the kipper trade?
I have a log burner and I use seasoned hardwood. From a quick Google it looks like kiln dried stuff will cost at least 25% more, if you can find it.
Mrs and me are both over 70 now and we feel the cold in the evenings. Our log burner is a god send. The warmth also shuts down the central heating, so less gas used. Great planning - discourage renewables and increase fossil fuel demand.
I was going to ask if this was for environment; reasons and then read the article.
Still no problem, with China and many other countries burning even greater amounts of coal to power their economies, as far as the effect on the environment that this will have, the UK can at least say it did its (microscopic) bit for the environment.
Still no problem, with China and many other countries burning even greater amounts of coal to power their economies, as far as the effect on the environment that this will have, the UK can at least say it did its (microscopic) bit for the environment.
We get our wood from a local tree guy who delivers it in the back of a truck. We then chuck it in the garage for a year to season. Why do I need to buy it already dried in a kiln, which no doubt burns something to generate the heat to dry it out and which we need to pay for!
We make pollution problems for ourselves. Restrict / increase the cost of an indoor fire, we'll just by more kerosine for our boiler to heat the house!
We make pollution problems for ourselves. Restrict / increase the cost of an indoor fire, we'll just by more kerosine for our boiler to heat the house!
The consultation paper suggests that things like heritage railways won't need an exemption as the intention is only to ban coal for domestic use, and replace it with manufactured alternatives. Not sure where that leaves my hobby blacksmithing. Can I buy it as long as I say it's not for heating? Or can I not buy it unless I have some proof that I'm using it professionally? I expect there will be lots of unintended consequences here. But only for the edge cases, so they won't care. Or will everyone switch to coke?
With regards to kiln dried woods etc, that just adds more pollution as you have to spend the energy to dry the wood. We source most of ours wet and choo and season it ourselves, so is that now going to be banned or do we have to prove that we season it?
With regards to kiln dried woods etc, that just adds more pollution as you have to spend the energy to dry the wood. We source most of ours wet and choo and season it ourselves, so is that now going to be banned or do we have to prove that we season it?
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