Isn't that the left - to a tea...

[markyb_lcy]

Pesty said:

Sort of on topic, new liberals side topic, not teabags. This is about LGbgt not pg tips. But the main point is thought crime. This lady has had enough.

“Leaving the progressive Left”?

She recently realised she lives on a rough street so she’s decided to leave the continent.

Her whole reasoning is lgbt specific.

It was worth a brief watch though. She raises some fair points.

Edited by markyb_lcy on Thursday 27th February 21:42

[Europa1]

Johnnytheboy said:

Inevitable New Statesman thinkpiece drawing our attention to the inequitable power balance between corporate giant Yorkshire Tea and poor vulnerable Sue:

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-m...

I am struggling to believe that a journalist thought that was worth crusading about.

[Halb]

Kermit one and mike tyson one please

[Mr Whippy]

Yup, mentally ill people.

[thetapeworm]

Johnnytheboy said:

Inevitable New Statesman thinkpiece drawing our attention to the inequitable power balance between corporate giant Yorkshire Tea and poor vulnerable Sue:

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-m...

Poor Sue, how could Yorkshire Tea bully her like that, sheesh.

I hadn't heard of Sarah Manavis until you posted this, she seems to be on a roll at the moment, complaining the BBC aren't on TikTok for example. The BBC. On TikTok. Apparently it's not enough to try and engage with the youth audience on channels like BBC and via dedicated web portals, they need to have proper representation on TikTok like some of their presenters do.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan...

[amusingduck]

Johnnytheboy said:

Inevitable New Statesman thinkpiece drawing our attention to the inequitable power balance between corporate giant Yorkshire Tea and poor vulnerable Sue:

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-m...

Poor Sue, what a victim.

[Gary C]

I like the mug with the phase on it

Edited by Gary C on Friday 28th February 09:42

[Digga]

amusingduck said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Inevitable New Statesman thinkpiece drawing our attention to the inequitable power balance between corporate giant Yorkshire Tea and poor vulnerable Sue:

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-m...

Poor Sue, what a victim.

Sue, like possibly a lot of the screeching woke left, may turn out to have mental problems.

However, there is a valid point, made at the time by a respondent on ttter, that Sue and the likes of her (let's not forget she was by no means alone in attacking Yorkshire tea) were calling for a boycott of products made by a real (and actually very successful) company, providing real jobs, for real people. Had a boycott transpired, all this and the second tier jobs - transport, suppliers etc. - could have been jeopardised.

[mcdjl]

Digga said:

amusingduck said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Inevitable New Statesman thinkpiece drawing our attention to the inequitable power balance between corporate giant Yorkshire Tea and poor vulnerable Sue:

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-m...

Poor Sue, what a victim.

Sue, like possibly a lot of the screeching woke left, may turn out to have mental problems.

However, there is a valid point, made at the time by a respondent on ttter, that Sue and the likes of her (let's not forget she was by no means alone in attacking Yorkshire tea) were calling for a boycott of products made by a real (and actually very successful) company, providing real jobs, for real people. Had a boycott transpired, all this and the second tier jobs - transport, suppliers etc. - could have been jeopardised.

Sue is a victim. She also victimised YT. YTs response to her was appropriate, the fact that a large number of other trolls piled in on her being much more vitriolic was not. To blame her for their actions is victim blaming. Treat others as you'd like to be treated.

[amusingduck]

mcdjl said:

Digga said:

amusingduck said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Inevitable New Statesman thinkpiece drawing our attention to the inequitable power balance between corporate giant Yorkshire Tea and poor vulnerable Sue:

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-m...

Poor Sue, what a victim.

Sue, like possibly a lot of the screeching woke left, may turn out to have mental problems.

However, there is a valid point, made at the time by a respondent on ttter, that Sue and the likes of her (let's not forget she was by no means alone in attacking Yorkshire tea) were calling for a boycott of products made by a real (and actually very successful) company, providing real jobs, for real people. Had a boycott transpired, all this and the second tier jobs - transport, suppliers etc. - could have been jeopardised.

Sue is a victim. She also victimised YT. YTs response to her was appropriate, the fact that a large number of other trolls piled in on her being much more vitriolic was not. To blame her for their actions is victim blaming. Treat others as you'd like to be treated.

You make it sound like she has the right to have her opinion accepted.

People who post utter bks will be mocked. The solution there is not to prevent mocking, it's not to post bks

[Johnnytheboy]

amusingduck said:

mcdjl said:

Sue is a victim. She also victimised YT. YTs response to her was appropriate, the fact that a large number of other trolls piled in on her being much more vitriolic was not. To blame her for their actions is victim blaming. Treat others as you'd like to be treated.

You make it sound like she has the right to have her opinion accepted.

People who post utter bks will be mocked. The solution there is not to prevent mocking, it's not to post bks

I don't know how people manage to use social media without realising if you post a load of hate-filled bks you risk becoming the target for worse.

Maybe a mandatory training period on PH would toughen them up

In Sue's case she may never have interacted with anyone that didn't share her crazy, crazy views, so this may have been a shock. Again, NPE-training would help.

Edited by Johnnytheboy on Friday 28th February 14:05

[mcdjl]

amusingduck said:

You make it sound like she has the right to have her opinion accepted.

People who post utter bks will be mocked. The solution there is not to prevent mocking, it's not to post bks

No she doesn't have to have her opinion accepted. Some of these responses in my opinion go beyond mocking:

article said:

“Apparently I have to ‘reap what I sow’,” she replied. “I am told that I should feel bad about upsetting someone on the end of an established company’s Twitter account”. Sue has received a deluge of comments from other Twitter users, who have called her “pathetic”, an “idiot”, and told her to “shut up”. She reports being described as a “sad, lonely, rabid lefty bedwetter who should not be wasting oxygen”. Sue observes that in the minds of the righteous mob, “this was apparently 100 per cent deserved”

An acceptable response could be 'thats idiotic, YT have no control over their product once it leave the factory'. On the other hand 'You reap what you sow you rabid, bed wetting...' is not.

[amusingduck]

mcdjl said:

amusingduck said:

You make it sound like she has the right to have her opinion accepted.

People who post utter bks will be mocked. The solution there is not to prevent mocking, it's not to post bks

No she doesn't have to have her opinion accepted. Some of these responses in my opinion go beyond mocking:

article said:

“Apparently I have to ‘reap what I sow’,” she replied. “I am told that I should feel bad about upsetting someone on the end of an established company’s Twitter account”. Sue has received a deluge of comments from other Twitter users, who have called her “pathetic”, an “idiot”, and told her to “shut up”. She reports being described as a “sad, lonely, rabid lefty bedwetter who should not be wasting oxygen”. Sue observes that in the minds of the righteous mob, “this was apparently 100 per cent deserved”

An acceptable response could be 'thats idiotic, YT have no control over their product once it leave the factory'. On the other hand 'You reap what you sow you rabid, bed wetting...' is not.

There's absolutely no requirement for a response to be acceptable on Twitter, that's why it's such a cesspool. She seems to tweet almost exclusively about corbyn/tories/austerity - she will be no stranger to how people talk to each other on there.

If you want to wrestle with pigs, you can't complain when you get muddy