Organ donation.
Discussion
chow pan toon said:
Exige77 said:
chow pan toon said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Who is to say it will stop at organs.
If the government can harvest your organs for someone else's benefit why not your assets too?
WhAt If ThEy TaKe AlL mY tHiNgSIf the government can harvest your organs for someone else's benefit why not your assets too?
Blackpuddin said:
Bill said:
Agammemnon said:
How about I just presume the best use of your intestacy & do with your estate as I see fit?
You're being silly now.
TorqueVR said:
My dad died some years ago after a brain haemorrhage on a Saturday evening and spent the last three days unconscious on a ventilator. My mum and brother were quite shocked when I suggested organ donation on the Sunday, but having slept on it they both agreed on the Monday that it was good idea. Dad passed away on the Tuesday and the hospital took is corneas, kidneys, liver and one or other bits (can't remember which). Within a few days we were informed that all the parts had been used and a couple of months later the hospital forwarded a letter from the recipient of a kidney (with the name and address redacted). He was a 35 year old married man with a three year old and another on the way, and was facing certain death without a transplant and it still chokes me up. Mum had suffered from kidney issues for years and later that same year her name came up and she ha a transplant, which to her 100% justified giving consent to donate dad's organs. So, a young man was given a new lease of life and his his wife had a husband and his two kids had a father, and then my mum later another 16 years before she died.
Donation is an absolute no-brainer, but if you don't want to give then don't expect to receive and let someone else benefit.
When my father died after a six-week battle in hospital, my brother and I were approached by a doctor with regards organ donation. Despite it being my father's wish, the NOK had to agree in those days. We said yes of course, and the doctor mentioned eyes, presumably corneas. My brother pointed out that my father wore variofocals, and the doctor said that to the recipient, the option of blindness or glasses was a no-brainer. We got a letter from the hospital saying that two people were now now longer blind, and one other organ (I've forgotten which) was used but, unfortunately, the others they intended harvesting were unsuitable (not explained). We got no details of the recipients. Donation is an absolute no-brainer, but if you don't want to give then don't expect to receive and let someone else benefit.
I would have doubted the good news, which was read out at his funeral, if the negative side hadn't been included. I got scarce comfort at the time from the donation, but later it was strangely reassuring, and apt, that a very generous and helpful man was generous and helpful after death.
My wife and I want to be on the harvester list. What can we lose? The pall-bears will also benefit.
Even if some nerd refuses on the grounds that they want to be stroppy, they'll be dead, so it won't be of any weird satisfaction to them.
Derek Smith said:
You are really rather odd. Not only in your total selfishness, but in your parade of it. I have nothing but contempt for your attitude, as well as your nonsensical reasoning.
How fortunate your views don't matter.I'm uncertain as to how thinking everyone should be left in peace can be considered selfish but I'm not really interested in your opinion.
It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
C. S. Lewis
Agammemnon said:
Bill said:
Agammemnon said:
How about I just presume the best use of your intestacy & do with your estate as I see fit?
You're being silly now.Your assets have a value that will be left to your next of Kin or your chosen inheritors but your organs only have value to a sick person who is a match.
Agammemnon said:
It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
C. S. Lewis
Agammemnon said:
It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
You’re confirming your strangeness now C. S. Lewis
Are you a Free Man Of The Land ?
Agammemnon said:
How fortunate your views don't matter.
I'm uncertain as to how thinking everyone should be left in peace can be considered selfish but I'm not really interested in your opinion.
You won't be left 'in peace'. You will be dead. You will no longer exist. It's really not that hard to grasp. I'm uncertain as to how thinking everyone should be left in peace can be considered selfish but I'm not really interested in your opinion.
Exige77 said:
Agammemnon said:
Bill said:
Agammemnon said:
How about I just presume the best use of your intestacy & do with your estate as I see fit?
You're being silly now.Your assets have a value that will be left to your next of Kin or your chosen inheritors but your organs only have value to a sick person who is a match.
Blackpuddin said:
You won't be left 'in peace'. You will be dead. You will no longer exist. It's really not that hard to grasp.
I'm currently alive- please take my word for that. The decision has been made behind my back whilst I'm alive & I resent the presumption.As said previously: it's not about the merits of donation, it's about taking without asking.
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