Duffy raped drugged and held captive
Discussion
ChocolateFrog said:
Has she gone to the Police? Or just posted it on Instagram?
It may sound harsh but there's so many stories like this now from 'celebrities' it's become background noise to me.
There are “so many stories” from celebrities claiming to have been raped ?It may sound harsh but there's so many stories like this now from 'celebrities' it's become background noise to me.
And drugged ?
And held against their will ?
Could you give an example or two ?
ChocolateFrog said:
Has she gone to the Police? Or just posted it on Instagram?
It may sound harsh but there's so many stories like this now from 'celebrities' it's become background noise to me.
So a women says she has been assaulted or raped and it is "background noise" not worthy of any attention? That's not harsh, that's virtually psychopathic.It may sound harsh but there's so many stories like this now from 'celebrities' it's become background noise to me.
The idea that if a women is attacked she should keep quiet about what happened is what has led to people like Weinstein thinking they can get away with it.
ChocolateFrog said:
Has she gone to the Police? Or just posted it on Instagram?
It may sound harsh but there's so many stories like this now from 'celebrities' it's become background noise to me.
Wot?It may sound harsh but there's so many stories like this now from 'celebrities' it's become background noise to me.
So a serial and now convicted rapist’s activities were spattered all over the news means that it’s all a bit ‘yawn’. Jesus.
This thread should be locked down. The attitudes of some of the posters are beyond parody.
Vickers_VC10 said:
bhstewie said:
The thing I can't work out is if your mother or sister told you that this had happened to them at some point in the past how many of the people on this thread would say "Sorry Mum I don't believe you".
I don't get what happens to someone to make them think like this
You've only got to look on the lounge to see the amount of sad, bitter and divorced or getting one style of that litters this place. Completely predicable. Mainly done for attention imo.I don't get what happens to someone to make them think like this
Still sunlight is the best disinfectant.
bhstewie said:
The thing I can't work out is if your mother or sister told you that this had happened to them at some point in the past how many of the people on this thread would say "Sorry Mum I don't believe you".
I don't get what happens to someone to make them think like this
It’s probably something to do with the timing.I don't get what happens to someone to make them think like this
If my wife vanished for a few days, I’d be down the cop shop myself, and I’d definitely be down the cop shop when she poled up and told me she’d been kidnapped. She’d be down the cop shop as well.
If my wife vanished for a few days, made up some cover story, and then many years later revealed what had happened on Instagram, yes, I admit it, I would be thinking “what the fk?”
rxe said:
It’s probably something to do with the timing.
If my wife vanished for a few days, I’d be down the cop shop myself, and I’d definitely be down the cop shop when she poled up and told me she’d been kidnapped. She’d be down the cop shop as well.
If my wife vanished for a few days, made up some cover story, and then many years later revealed what had happened on Instagram, yes, I admit it, I would be thinking “what the fk?”
You think she only speaks to her partner via Instagram? This might come as a surprise, but she’s quite likely to have talked to people she actually knows about this at the time. If my wife vanished for a few days, I’d be down the cop shop myself, and I’d definitely be down the cop shop when she poled up and told me she’d been kidnapped. She’d be down the cop shop as well.
If my wife vanished for a few days, made up some cover story, and then many years later revealed what had happened on Instagram, yes, I admit it, I would be thinking “what the fk?”
I see the rest of the discussion continues down the disgusting route from some on here. Quite bizarre.
unident said:
You think she only speaks to her partner via Instagram? This might come as a surprise, but she’s quite likely to have talked to people she actually knows about this at the time.
I see the rest of the discussion continues down the disgusting route from some on here. Quite bizarre.
I don’t even know if she has a partner.... I see the rest of the discussion continues down the disgusting route from some on here. Quite bizarre.
I just find the instagram approach a bit odd. Normally there is a court case or something. If she talked to people, you think they all said “yeah, keep it quiet, that’s the best approach”. I sure as fk wouldn’t say that.
I know of two girls who have told me they have been raped. I believe both of them.
First one involved her married boss turning up at her house when she was 17. She worked as a waitress in a pub. He asked about her parents working hours and turned up when he knew she'd be off college. It wasn't a physically violent act in the normal sense. But she told me she was so scared she did whatever he wanted.
Second one involved a 18 year old uni student waking up not remembering what had happened next to her boss who was a nightclub promoter. Her friend has told the bloke she was too drunk and she was taking her home. The boss said he'd look after her and get her a taxi.
I am a relatively cynical person. But I know those two people were not lying. Neither went to the police. And truth be told if I was on a jury I'd probably find both blokes not guilty. The first one I'd have 'some doubt' as the girl had given up the information and wasn't hurt. And the second one I'd have enough reasonable doubt because the girl continued working for the guy. She was ashamed but didn't want to lose her only income as well.
So I reckon the whole system is broken. Openly accusing someone of lying if they open up about trauma can't be right. But if I ever had a daughter who was raped I wouldn't tell her to go to the police. To openly tell people about one of the worst things that can happen and then to be judged, condemned and potentially feel like no one believed you must be worst than getting counselling and moving on.
It's a bit like one of us blokes being sodomised by another man. And having the courage to tell others (which I wouldn't have). And the first thing some people do is say 'he's making this up for attention' or 'he just regretted it the next day'. I've never for a single second dreamed about accusing a man of raping me. And I don't think hardly any women would do so either. It might happen in very very very rare cases. But I just can't see people going through with that. If you want to hurt someone it would be far easier to pay someone to beat that person with a baseball bat - and the odds of being successful would be far higher than accusing them of rape.
First one involved her married boss turning up at her house when she was 17. She worked as a waitress in a pub. He asked about her parents working hours and turned up when he knew she'd be off college. It wasn't a physically violent act in the normal sense. But she told me she was so scared she did whatever he wanted.
Second one involved a 18 year old uni student waking up not remembering what had happened next to her boss who was a nightclub promoter. Her friend has told the bloke she was too drunk and she was taking her home. The boss said he'd look after her and get her a taxi.
I am a relatively cynical person. But I know those two people were not lying. Neither went to the police. And truth be told if I was on a jury I'd probably find both blokes not guilty. The first one I'd have 'some doubt' as the girl had given up the information and wasn't hurt. And the second one I'd have enough reasonable doubt because the girl continued working for the guy. She was ashamed but didn't want to lose her only income as well.
So I reckon the whole system is broken. Openly accusing someone of lying if they open up about trauma can't be right. But if I ever had a daughter who was raped I wouldn't tell her to go to the police. To openly tell people about one of the worst things that can happen and then to be judged, condemned and potentially feel like no one believed you must be worst than getting counselling and moving on.
It's a bit like one of us blokes being sodomised by another man. And having the courage to tell others (which I wouldn't have). And the first thing some people do is say 'he's making this up for attention' or 'he just regretted it the next day'. I've never for a single second dreamed about accusing a man of raping me. And I don't think hardly any women would do so either. It might happen in very very very rare cases. But I just can't see people going through with that. If you want to hurt someone it would be far easier to pay someone to beat that person with a baseball bat - and the odds of being successful would be far higher than accusing them of rape.
Thesprucegoose said:
There was a story of a celebrity being raped at a hotel a few years back, her identity was never publicised or any more news on it. It does happen.
this was the story, https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hotel-porter...
Think that one was quite widely known to be Lucy Spraggan, in fact weirdly googling Lucy Spraggan Rape one of the first results is that articlethis was the story, https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hotel-porter...
anonymous said:
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Are you allowed to openly name someone you think was the victim of rape? I thought it was a criminal offence to name victims that have the right of anonymity? It doesn't seem if she's waived her right even if some articles come up. They don't name her either.
JagLover said:
There is also many grey areas where claims can be made but other parties have different interpretations.
Some see the headline and picture someone abducted and tied to a radiator. As already mentioned it could be an ex partner not letting them out of the house. Quite a while back there was rumoured to be some British female celebrities doing high end escort work in the ME and something like that could start out entirely consensual and then become something different.
Without the full details it is impossible to say what exactly went on.
Who? Some see the headline and picture someone abducted and tied to a radiator. As already mentioned it could be an ex partner not letting them out of the house. Quite a while back there was rumoured to be some British female celebrities doing high end escort work in the ME and something like that could start out entirely consensual and then become something different.
Without the full details it is impossible to say what exactly went on.
I believe her. I'm continually surprised and genuinely shocked and upset by the number of women I keep meeting or hearing about who have been through absolutely stomach churning abuse at the hands of men. Lots and lots and lots.
In Duffy's case I very much doubt it will have been a case of her being snatched by a person unknown. It'll be someone she knows, probably not that well and who was a relatively new acquaintance or someone she knew more in a professional capacity. Unlikely a long-term partner or ex.
In Duffy's case I very much doubt it will have been a case of her being snatched by a person unknown. It'll be someone she knows, probably not that well and who was a relatively new acquaintance or someone she knew more in a professional capacity. Unlikely a long-term partner or ex.
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