Duffy raped drugged and held captive

[yellowjack]

mygoldfishbowl said:

Mahogany?

Nah, you're thinking of David Dickinson.

[DeepEnd]

bhstewie said:

There's a large contingent on here who seem to hate women.

It's really strange.

I did think surely they won’t post on this subject....

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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Re the abduction of the model the derogatory term of reference to the women in question and suggestion that it was made up rather tainted people’s assessment of your perspective on things.

Similarly the examples you have cited are somewhat predicated upon a direct and false allegation laid at the door of named individuals for deliberately malicious reasons.

Either way as you say you’ll survive.

[poo at Paul's]

anonymous said:

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But could it not be the case she doesn't know the perpetrator, that she was actually abducted, held, raped etc, and the lack of any news was due to there being a ransom paid by the family / management, and police not actually involved. Then a desire to not have it reported in case of repercussions or trail by media etc?
From what she's said, it could have been some time ago, and she's only mentioned it now as some journo tracked her down?

Don't want to seem ghoulish, but it's intriguing. For the record I am not doubting her at all, just interested in how it was kept quiet for so long. Her management, gossip columnists, journos etc at the time...could it be they knew but again, for her safety kept it quiet?
A great singer, poor woman.

[Welshbeef]

anonymous said:

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I’d imagine a number of reasons
1. A massive weight off her shoulders
2. Part of her nap back from the depths of depression to normality
3. Letting the attacker know she now has all the power in the world. The power they had over her now reversed - life jail term awaits.

[rover 623gsi]

There were 58,000 reported rapes in the UK in 2019 - more than 1,000 each week. (You won’t read or hear about most of them because it is so commonplace.) Less than 2,000 men were convicted of rape - one of the reasons why many rapes don’t even get reported.

[poo at Paul's]

rover 623gsi said:

There were 58,000 reported rapes in the UK in 2019 - more than 1,000 each week. (You won’t read or hear about most of them because it is so commonplace.) Less than 2,000 men were convicted of rape - one of the reasons why many rapes don’t even get reported.

Agreed, but kidnap and being held, a well known celebrity singer, with record label, management, fans etc? Some serious press management to keep that quiet one would think.

[Welshbeef]

poo at Paul's said:

Agreed, but kidnap and being held, a well known celebrity singer, with record label, management, fans etc? Some serious press management to keep that quiet one would think.

Unless as it happens she doesn’t tell anyone and the attacker clearly doesn’t confess either.

[Randy Winkman]

chow pan toon said:

Oakey said:

You mean the blonde bird whose Polish kidnapper is currently serving time for kidnapping after being found guilty at trial?

Funny how people on here seem to believe and remember when doubt is cast on women's stories but not so much when they're proved.

Is it not a great example of exactly why fake news is spread? Thetoxicnerve seemed to genuinely believe the opposite of what was actually true.

[anonymous-user]

poo at Paul's said:

Agreed, but kidnap and being held, a well known celebrity singer, with record label, management, fans etc? Some serious press management to keep that quiet one would think.

There was a story of a celebrity being raped at a hotel a few years back, her identity was never publicised or any more news on it. It does happen.

this was the story, https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hotel-porter...

[chow pan toon]

Randy Winkman said:

chow pan toon said:

Oakey said:

You mean the blonde bird whose Polish kidnapper is currently serving time for kidnapping after being found guilty at trial?

Funny how people on here seem to believe and remember when doubt is cast on women's stories but not so much when they're proved.

Is it not a great example of exactly why fake news is spread? Thetoxicnerve seemed to genuinely believe the opposite of what was actually true.

Oh it's perfectly innocent. He stopped following the story when it became true. And he called her a daft bint because he's an Arab I imagine.

[JagLover]

yellowjack said:

Misandry is a "thing" too, you know? And a number of high profile rape cases have been thrown out AFTER having ruined the accused's life/career. And a number of serial accusers have been "outed" too, some ending with police/cps action against them for their devilment. None of which helps genuine rape victims in their quest for justice. So, no. I can't agree with your intimation that any form of dissent on the matter is somehow misogyny. A healthy dose of cynicism can aid a debate just as well as taking any and all accusations at face value without investigating their veracity can hinder debate.

Remembering always that we have a legal system where the accused is innocent until proved guilty.

[bitchstewie]

Welshbeef said:

bhstewie said:

The thing I can't work out is if your mother or sister told you that this had happened to them at some point in the past how many of the people on this thread would say "Sorry Mum I don't believe you".

I don't get what happens to someone to make them think like this

The number of women who cry wolf over a rape charge is minuscule (and those who do must be prosecuted). However for a girl or lady to come forward and say that they were raped takes a huge amount of strength and courage. It’s a sad state of affairs that there is a tiny % of successful individuals who sexually assault are charged and are found guilty in court.
It’s also the fear / shame / ... that victims have to stand in court and go through the trauma again & even then it might result in nothing.

Quite.

I don't think anyone is disputing that some people make things up.

But what a state of affairs when you read a post like Duffy's and your first instinct is to say "I don't think it happened".

It's shameful.

[Earthdweller]

The problem with many Rape allegations is that it is simply a case of

He said/She said

Particularly with historic cases there is often no corroboration at all

Even where there is forensic evidence that sexual activity took place we often revert back to He said/She said

Proving that the sexual activity was non consensual is very difficult particularly when the vast majority of offences occur between known individuals with a history of sexual activity.

The stereotypical image of the rapist dragging innocent women off the street is thank god a very very rare experience

A large number of Rapes reported are sex workers who haven’t been paid or paid enough

The whole area is very very complex and links into Domestic violence, abusive relationships, coercive behaviour etc

It’s a total and complete minefield to investigate

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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You should probably look up the derivation of bint.

You’ll then see how amusing it is watching you defending casual misogyny by claiming casual racism.

[Vickers_VC10]

bhstewie said:

The thing I can't work out is if your mother or sister told you that this had happened to them at some point in the past how many of the people on this thread would say "Sorry Mum I don't believe you".

I don't get what happens to someone to make them think like this

You've only got to look on the lounge to see the amount of sad, bitter and divorced or getting one style of that litters this place. Completely predicable. Mainly done for attention imo.

[selym]

bhstewie said:

Quite.

I don't think anyone is disputing that some people make things up.

But what a state of affairs when you read a post like Duffy's and your first instinct is to say "I don't think it happened".

It's shameful.

This whole thread is shameful. I'm just buoyed by the fact that there are people on here who still take Duffy's terrible story as read and aren't calling custard.
Disgraceful.

[Alpinestars]

selym said:

bhstewie said:

Quite.

I don't think anyone is disputing that some people make things up.

But what a state of affairs when you read a post like Duffy's and your first instinct is to say "I don't think it happened".

It's shameful.

This whole thread is shameful. I'm just buoyed by the fact that there are people on here who still take Duffy's terrible story as read and aren't calling custard.
Disgraceful.

Not unusual for PH.

Some of the posters were in the same boat wrt Weinstein.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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Bint isn’t a word which immediately conjures up an image of respect particularly when appended to an accusation of false reporting ......

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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Very odd, strange, and frankly unbelievable things happen to someone every single day.

The way people wish to deal with traumatic things varies massively as well.