Will China be brought to account?

Will China be brought to account?

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Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Einion Yrth said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It `seems' as if they will eat everything and anything which has, or did have a pulse.
I suspect you'll find the pulse is optional.
Indeed! but are you saying that they also eat stuff which is still alive?
They do, although the Japanese and the Koreans are worse for it. I was however only saying that they ate things that had never had a pulse.

thebraketester

14,228 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Einion Yrth said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It `seems' as if they will eat everything and anything which has, or did have a pulse.
I suspect you'll find the pulse is optional.
Indeed! but are you saying that they also eat stuff which is still alive?
The eat things that have not even been born yet.

carinatauk

1,408 posts

252 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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I do believe that companies will have to look at their reliance of cheap goods and parts from China and risk manage a distribution of new supply chains. That will hit them hard

untakenname

4,969 posts

192 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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The fact that historically any outbreakings are named geographically from the source (Ebola, MER's etc..) as a forewarning to future generations yet the WHO have gone out of their way to make sure that this one has no links to the source stinks, the WHO is completely in the pocket of the CCCP and shouldn't be allowed to continue once this pandemic is over.

This could have been isolated to just China if the rest of the world stopped flights out of Wuhan/China but the guidance at the time was that there was nothing to worry about which looking back in retrospect is clearly wrong as was the banning of twitter accounts for spreading the truth.

Trump got it right the other day when he stopped calling it Corona/Covid and hopefully others will now do so to.

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Ah! our quaint Chinese cousins!
I have never been there, so am only going from news items etc,
I do however bask in the warm glow which came from being banned from posting in the Guardians CiF section. because the Guardian like so many of the tree hugger persuasion are guilty of hypocrisy, or at the least double standards, and I sort of pointed this out to them, which they appeared not to like very much smile

Eric Mc

122,030 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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To what purpose?

Blind revenge?

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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thebraketester said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Einion Yrth said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It `seems' as if they will eat everything and anything which has, or did have a pulse.
I suspect you'll find the pulse is optional.
Indeed! but are you saying that they also eat stuff which is still alive?
The eat things that have not even been born yet.
In fairness so do we, in the form of eggs! smile

thebraketester

14,228 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Pan Pan Pan said:
thebraketester said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Einion Yrth said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It `seems' as if they will eat everything and anything which has, or did have a pulse.
I suspect you'll find the pulse is optional.
Indeed! but are you saying that they also eat stuff which is still alive?
The eat things that have not even been born yet.
In fairness so do we, in the form of eggs! smile
True... thats a pre embryonic stage though.... the balut eggs the Chinese eat are way down line in-terms of being born.

Eric Mc

122,030 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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I like baby potatoes.

Craigyp79

589 posts

183 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
Craigyp79 said:
Given that Western Countries have never been held to account to the evils that they wrought on the rest of the world in the past I'm not sure why anyone would think that China somehow owes anything to anyone...
Some people did bad stuff years ago so no point telling anyone off for doing bad stuff now.

Is that what you are saying?
What I'm saying is that it's the height of hypocrisy to blame China for doing something that has hurt other countries whilst ignoring all the other bad things that happen in the world..

BlackTails

620 posts

55 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Blue One said:
So this Coronavirus is the third sh*tstorm China has unleashed on the world this century, and the most deadly and impactful (the other two being SARS and bird flu). There are two sets of charges against them:

1. Economic/Human; cost, damage, death, health, disruption etc
2. Nature: barbaric treatment of animals, no effective action to manage transference of illness from animals to humans despite two previous instances

Beyond that, and not directly related, is the fact that almost any animal extinction story, or ecological disaster seems to have China's fingerprints on it (ivory trade/poaching, tiger hunting, shark fins, rainforest destruction etc).

The Chinese really have a lot of answer for! Despite that, I have a feeling they will emerge from this latest crisis stronger than ever as the world is now almost totally dependant on Chinese goods, money and support.

Ideally, some international court should slap real restrictions on China and make sure they make real changes to stop this kind of thing being repeated and to roll-back their impact on animals and nature.

Thoughts?
Tell us: where do you stand on slavery reparations?

thebraketester

14,228 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Eric Mc said:
I like baby potatoes.
Murderer.....

Eric Mc

122,030 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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And baby carrots too.

Fat Fairy

503 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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thebraketester said:
Eric Mc said:
I like baby potatoes.
Murderer.....
They are real potatoes once they have developed eyes!

FF

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

58 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Blue One said:
Thoughts?
May I enquire as to whether you now buy anything manufactured in China or have completely boycotted their products?

Emanresu

311 posts

89 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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thebraketester said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
thebraketester said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Einion Yrth said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It `seems' as if they will eat everything and anything which has, or did have a pulse.
I suspect you'll find the pulse is optional.
Indeed! but are you saying that they also eat stuff which is still alive?
The eat things that have not even been born yet.
In fairness so do we, in the form of eggs! smile
True... thats a pre embryonic stage though.... the balut eggs the Chinese eat are way down line in-terms of being born.
Balut is Filipino. And it’s damn delicious. Like a little meaty omelette.

oyster

12,595 posts

248 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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It wouldn't be PH without a xenophobic/racist theread near the top of the charts.

I thought all the pulling together globally and locally was a good thing, alas it seems there are some who need that fix of anger.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Too much far flung international travel. Why such a repressive authoritarian state feels it can export its people to every possible point on the map is puzzling.
Same with the west and its endless supply of english teacher to china.
Some serious visa restrictions should now be considered. After all the next new virus could be 2022.
If they want to learn english they can do it online. They can sell us stuff by all means but we need to investigate alternative sources.
Obviouslty if the leadership in china changes to one not run by a lot of gangsters then maybe that could help.
Typical stage managed photo op with all the happy doctors marking a job well done.
They are very good at this sort of propaganda. I bet people were locked in there apartments to die in reality
and any news covered up.
If they love the west so much they can build a replica in 2 weeks after all.

thebraketester

14,228 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Emanresu said:
thebraketester said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
thebraketester said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Einion Yrth said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It `seems' as if they will eat everything and anything which has, or did have a pulse.
I suspect you'll find the pulse is optional.
Indeed! but are you saying that they also eat stuff which is still alive?
The eat things that have not even been born yet.
In fairness so do we, in the form of eggs! smile
True... thats a pre embryonic stage though.... the balut eggs the Chinese eat are way down line in-terms of being born.
Balut is Filipino. And it’s damn delicious. Like a little meaty omelette.
Introduced to the Philippines by the Chinese ~1885. (wiki)

I didnt realise that it was eaten in the Philippines to be honest, I always presumed it was a Chinese thing

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Pan Pan Pan said:
In fairness so do we, in the form of eggs! smile
Someone said technically the Scottish are cannibals as they eat Scotch eggs.

Dont know if its true.