Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 4)

Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 4)

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Scrump

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22,128 posts

159 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Continued from here:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

There are a lot of strong opinions around Covid 19 and there is a huge quantity of data which is not all consistent.
Please try and discuss this in a polite manner and be tolerant of others’ views.

nigelpugh7

6,046 posts

191 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Wow volume 4 already!


isaldiri

18,668 posts

169 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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soupdragon1 said:
I wont use the word idiots as that's unfair. Its scared people doing stupid things.
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Nope, sorry. Idiots. Not unfair at all. In fact one could probably say a lot worse.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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nigelpugh7 said:
Wow volume 4 already!
Yep. yes

rich12

3,465 posts

155 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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How long would we realistically need to have a total lockdown for this to stop?
If everyone self isolated in their own homes with no contact with anyone who isn't in the house, how long roughly?
3 weeks?

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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anonymous said:
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When I see this chart. I'm amazed at how smooth the china line is. Almost like it was drawn on via a mathematical formula between two points.

DJMC

3,446 posts

104 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Another 460 deaths in the UK today... one every three minutes.

... from heart disease.

What is the government doing to isolate us from sweets, sticky buns, and Greggs?

And YES, you can catch heart disease from someone else: "Would you like one of my doughnuts?"

Did the markets fall and economy collapse due to the sticky bun? No.

Let's get some perspective please on this teeny weeny problem called CV.

Newc

1,878 posts

183 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Thought I would christen the new thread with my regularly asked but never answered query.

If the CV worst case for UK is something like 250k deaths:

- are all of those extra to the 600k or so people who die each year in the UK, or is there a lot of crossover with people who are already ill (which is what the Italian figures suggest)

- how does a one-time blip of a maximum 40%-50% (if zero crossover) in annual deaths justify the cratering of the global economy, millions out of work, bankruptcies, suicides, and social upheaval which will take years to recover from

designforlife

3,734 posts

164 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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DJMC said:
Another 460 deaths in the UK today... one every three minutes.

... from heart disease.

What is the government doing to isolate us from sweets, sticky buns, and Greggs?

And YES, you can catch heart disease from someone else: "Would you like one of my doughnuts?"

Did the markets fall and economy collapse due to the sticky bun? No.

Let's get some perspective please on this teeny weeny problem called CV.
wow, delusional much?

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

152 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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rich12 said:
How long would we realistically need to have a total lockdown for this to stop?
If everyone self isolated in their own homes with no contact with anyone who isn't in the house, how long roughly?
3 weeks?
At least. Italy's had 2 weeks, and the haven't started the down curve yet. Hopefully we'll see their situation improving in the next week. They did it too late, and we as a country did not learn form their mistake, an are sleep walking into a similar disaster.

lemmingjames

7,464 posts

205 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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in before the world is going to end and how dare you go outside lot pipe up

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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ElectricSoup said:
rich12 said:
How long would we realistically need to have a total lockdown for this to stop?
If everyone self isolated in their own homes with no contact with anyone who isn't in the house, how long roughly?
3 weeks?
At least. Italy's had 2 weeks, and the haven't started the down curve yet. Hopefully we'll see their situation improving in the next week. They did it too late, and we as a country did not learn form their mistake, an are sleep walking into a similar disaster.
Would it more accurate to say, how long for this to "pause".

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

152 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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lemmingjames said:
in before the world is going to end and how dare you go outside lot pipe up
You're a lemming, James, you carry on regardless.

I'm staying inside.

Puggit

48,516 posts

249 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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DJMC said:
Let's get some perspective please on this teeny weeny problem called CV.
Here's some perspective: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-i...

pghstochaj

2,413 posts

120 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Munter said:
When I see this chart. I'm amazed at how smooth the china line is. Almost like it was drawn on via a mathematical formula between two points.
It's not obvious until you look at the y-axis but it's a logarithmic graph and that will help give that impression. If you look at the linear graph it's not as clean, but still it's not as "equation like".

What's scary is the curve for Italy.

DJMC

3,446 posts

104 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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designforlife said:
wow, delusional much?
In what way?

Heart disease is a much bigger issue. Yet we're all allowed to go about out fat lazy lives with no government intervention.

...and then there's smoking and passive smoking...

kurt535

3,559 posts

118 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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anonymous said:
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problem with this virus is it hits people differently, even of the same age, suggesting to me its unstable and mutating. ive personally witnessed one person i have no idea why we brought them to hospital whilst another, same age, normally fit and healthy as well was, indeed, at deaths door due to respiratory decline. uk being last to get it is scarier and could indeed mean higher death rate unless we finally get our act together and stop 'suggesting' but 'telling' people what to do, especially bosses like the muppet who owns wetherspoons!

MrBarry123

6,030 posts

122 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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DJMC said:
Another 460 deaths in the UK today... one every three minutes.

... from heart disease.

What is the government doing to isolate us from sweets, sticky buns, and Greggs?

And YES, you can catch heart disease from someone else: "Would you like one of my doughnuts?"

Did the markets fall and economy collapse due to the sticky bun? No.

Let's get some perspective please on this teeny weeny problem called CV.
rolleyes

You’re only concerned about your pension and your overpriced meal so you’re not in a great position to comment on perspective.

rich12

3,465 posts

155 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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ElectricSoup said:
At least. Italy's had 2 weeks, and the haven't started the down curve yet. Hopefully we'll see their situation improving in the next week. They did it too late, and we as a country did not learn form their mistake, an are sleep walking into a similar disaster.
So in economic terms, is one not better than the other?
ie, total shut down of everything for say 4 weeks or carry on as we are and this has the potential to carry on for a more than a year?

Is it just not feasible to do the former?

lampchair

4,431 posts

187 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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DJMC said:
Another 460 deaths in the UK today... one every three minutes.

... from heart disease.

What is the government doing to isolate us from sweets, sticky buns, and Greggs?

And YES, you can catch heart disease from someone else: "Would you like one of my doughnuts?"

Did the markets fall and economy collapse due to the sticky bun? No.

Let's get some perspective please on this teeny weeny problem called CV.
Waaaay he’s back.

Can’t manage his own pension, but he’s a CV guru.

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