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John Locke

1,142 posts

53 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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If the wearing of masks in public becomes compulsory, Guardian or Independent reading vegans will continue to do so, twitfacegrammers will take to it like ducks to water, and scowl at the rest of us who have become sick of being controlled, and will ignore the law.

Robertj21a

16,479 posts

106 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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m_cozzy said:
I'm a reluctant shopper anyway. I had to go into town today for the first time since January to buy some things.
I certainly wouldn't have gone if facemasks were mandatory.
In the 15 mins I was there I saw very few wearing them. It will absolutely kill retail if these are enforced.
I think many people are over reacting. It's mostly men on PH and we're not known for liking High St shopping - but the women love it and will go through hell and high water to still get out there.

kingston12

5,490 posts

158 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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m_cozzy said:
I'm a reluctant shopper anyway. I had to go into town today for the first time since January to buy some things.
I certainly wouldn't have gone if facemasks were mandatory.
In the 15 mins I was there I saw very few wearing them. It will absolutely kill retail if these are enforced.
Food was about the only thing I was buying in physical stores before all of this kicked off, It I can’t see I’ll even be doing that again. I’m not massively averse to wearing a mask (although I’d really rather not), but I just can’t see what is appealing about shopping anyway especially with all of the extra hassles now.

I feel really sorry of those who will lose their jobs, but I don’t agree with going out to save shops that should have probably disappeared years ago just for the sake of it. We need to move on rather than trying to resurrect the past.

BeastieBoy73

651 posts

113 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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kingston12 said:
m_cozzy said:
I'm a reluctant shopper anyway. I had to go into town today for the first time since January to buy some things.
I certainly wouldn't have gone if facemasks were mandatory.
In the 15 mins I was there I saw very few wearing them. It will absolutely kill retail if these are enforced.
Food was about the only thing I was buying in physical stores before all of this kicked off, It I can’t see I’ll even be doing that again. I’m not massively averse to wearing a mask (although I’d really rather not), but I just can’t see what is appealing about shopping anyway especially with all of the extra hassles now.

I feel really sorry of those who will lose their jobs, but I don’t agree with going out to save shops that should have probably disappeared years ago just for the sake of it. We need to move on rather than trying to resurrect the past.
My wife and teenage daughter went into town yesterday for some retail therapy.

They couldn’t try anything on in the shops. Pretty much everything they bought, once tried on at home, needs returning to the shop.

They both said town was awful what with the queues, sanitiser, one way systems and getting glared at for going the wrong way.

Next time they’re just ordering everything online, especially as everything has to be tried on at home, and then returned if required.

This also means they won’t be in town buying lunch, coffee etc.

scorp

8,783 posts

230 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Elysium said:
scorp said:
Elysium said:
scorp said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
sambucket said:
Doesn't seem to be a problem for approx half the world. I
The average lemming would no doubt agree with you.
We've been wearing facemasks and using alcohol hand-wash in hk for almost the whole year, consequently there are very few if any covid cases here and there was hardly any lock down needed.
Correlation does not equal causation
Well something is being handled differently here than over there.
Hong Kong is subtropical. The UK is in the northern temperate zone. Other coronaviruses are seasonal.

There is a strong correlation between the timing of outbreaks and lattitude.
How about Japan and South Korea, they have temperate climates?

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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scorp said:
Elysium said:
scorp said:
Elysium said:
scorp said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
sambucket said:
Doesn't seem to be a problem for approx half the world. I
The average lemming would no doubt agree with you.
We've been wearing facemasks and using alcohol hand-wash in hk for almost the whole year, consequently there are very few if any covid cases here and there was hardly any lock down needed.
Correlation does not equal causation
Well something is being handled differently here than over there.
Hong Kong is subtropical. The UK is in the northern temperate zone. Other coronaviruses are seasonal.

There is a strong correlation between the timing of outbreaks and lattitude.
How about Japan and South Korea, they have temperate climates?
oh are we back on the temperature and humidity vs the virus thing again?

Florida is fairly hot and humid lots of covid cases

Arizona is quite hot and dry again lots of cases

Louis Balfour

26,353 posts

223 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I have just been to the first cricket match that my son has played this season. The players had to come off to sanitise their hands every 20 minutes.

Coronavirus tokenism at its finest.


Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Well, I’ve just been into our little town to have my haircut and it was all very civilised with social distancing etc.

Some people were wearing masks but not many and nearly all the shops were open with people milling about.

You could also be forgiven for thinking nothing ever happened!


My Name is Legion

131 posts

139 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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John Locke said:
If the wearing of masks in public becomes compulsory, Guardian or Independent reading vegans will continue to do so, twitfacegrammers will take to it like ducks to water, and scowl at the rest of us who have become sick of being controlled, and will ignore the law.
If it does become law and you bowl into a shop without one that doesn't make you edgy, it makes you selfish.

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Alucidnation said:
Fantastic to see on the news people enjoying getting back into the swimming pool!
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MikeT66

2,681 posts

125 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Robertj21a said:
m_cozzy said:
I'm a reluctant shopper anyway. I had to go into town today for the first time since January to buy some things.
I certainly wouldn't have gone if facemasks were mandatory.
In the 15 mins I was there I saw very few wearing them. It will absolutely kill retail if these are enforced.
I think many people are over reacting. It's mostly men on PH and we're not known for liking High St shopping - but the women love it and will go through hell and high water to still get out there.
Mrs.T66 - an ardent browser/shopper - says different. She's determined to fk it all off if masks become compulsary. I feel the same - online only, or delivery (watch demand for those go through the roof).

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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John Locke said:
If the wearing of masks in public becomes compulsory, Guardian or Independent reading vegans will continue to do so, twitfacegrammers will take to it like ducks to water, and scowl at the rest of us who have become sick of being controlled, and will ignore the law.
I’m not normally big on schadenfreude, I’m not vindictive, but I’d make an exception in your case as you seem to often talk nonsense, (just my opinion).
If mask wearing became mandatory, and I saw you walk into a shop without a mask, followed by a cop, I’d be quietly delighted.

Brave Fart

5,750 posts

112 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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John Locke said:
If the wearing of masks in public becomes compulsory, Guardian or Independent reading vegans will continue to do so, twitfacegrammers will take to it like ducks to water, and scowl at the rest of us who have become sick of being controlled, and will ignore the law.
Fair enough John, but what if your chosen supermarket has an employee at the door and they refuse you entry if you're not wearing a face covering? This is what I'd imagine happening in large retailers, whereas the small shops will have no means of enforcement. Mind you, in smaller shops you might get fellow (masked) shoppers tutting at you and/or challenging you. We've seen how some curtain twitchers have loved to opportunity to shame their neighbours; those people will be the new "mask police".

It'll make the retail experience so unpleasant that the winners will be online retailers. Is that what Boris wants, I wonder?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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John Locke said:
If the wearing of masks in public becomes compulsory, Guardian or Independent reading vegans will continue to do so, twitfacegrammers will take to it like ducks to water, and scowl at the rest of us who have become sick of being controlled, and will ignore the law.
Sick of being controlled?, are you one of those freeman types

i do hope they become compulsory, mainly out of spite for people like you.

Kermit power

28,692 posts

214 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Frank7 said:
John Locke said:
If the wearing of masks in public becomes compulsory, Guardian or Independent reading vegans will continue to do so, twitfacegrammers will take to it like ducks to water, and scowl at the rest of us who have become sick of being controlled, and will ignore the law.
I’m not normally big on schadenfreude, I’m not vindictive, but I’d make an exception in your case as you seem to often talk nonsense, (just my opinion).
If mask wearing became mandatory, and I saw you walk into a shop without a mask, followed by a cop, I’d be quietly delighted.
I think you're missing the point.

We live in an era where there is simply no need for anyone to go to a physical shop as you can order everything online for delivery.

It's highly unlikely that anyone is going to actually make a point of insisting on going to into a shop not wearing a mask, followed by a cop or otherwise. They'll simply not bother going into shops, full stop.

Prior to all this rubbish, online shopping accounted for 21% of all shopping in the UK, and the High Street was already dying. How many more people moving to online shopping do you think it's going to take to hammer the final nail into the coffin? Not many at a guess.

Kermit power

28,692 posts

214 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Vandenberg said:
John Locke said:
If the wearing of masks in public becomes compulsory, Guardian or Independent reading vegans will continue to do so, twitfacegrammers will take to it like ducks to water, and scowl at the rest of us who have become sick of being controlled, and will ignore the law.
Sick of being controlled?, are you one of those freeman types

i do hope they become compulsory, mainly out of spite for people like you.
Think about it for a second. It won't spite people like him. It'll spite all the people working in retail who'll lose their jobs because their employers have gone bust.

Promised Land

4,737 posts

210 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
We haven't actually been told either, it's all hush hush.

We were told we were carrying out more tests than everyone else, but I don't know how true that is.

They're having to put police officers in certain areas on the parks and recreational areas because certain people still aren't following the rules, it's mad.
Sileby resident here so I’m not in your lockdown but I use screwfix and surrounding industrial estate a lot at Thurmaston and I haven’t noticed any less activity in the area this last couple of weeks, my mate also said the same the other day.

The shopping area opposite Asda is shut but for Boots and the like but in general I’m not sure where the lockdown has affected businesses other than shops and the city centre.

If they had announced a lockdown for 6-10 weeks at the start there would have been uproar in the city like if they had said in March to the country it will be in force for 3 months imagine the scene.





John Locke

1,142 posts

53 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Frank7 said:
I’m not normally big on schadenfreude, I’m not vindictive, but I’d make an exception in your case as you seem to often talk nonsense, (just my opinion).
If mask wearing became mandatory, and I saw you walk into a shop without a mask, followed by a cop, I’d be quietly delighted.
From an ex cabbie.
biglaugh

Elysium

13,854 posts

188 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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citizensm1th said:
scorp said:
Elysium said:
scorp said:
Elysium said:
scorp said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
sambucket said:
Doesn't seem to be a problem for approx half the world. I
The average lemming would no doubt agree with you.
We've been wearing facemasks and using alcohol hand-wash in hk for almost the whole year, consequently there are very few if any covid cases here and there was hardly any lock down needed.
Correlation does not equal causation
Well something is being handled differently here than over there.
Hong Kong is subtropical. The UK is in the northern temperate zone. Other coronaviruses are seasonal.

There is a strong correlation between the timing of outbreaks and lattitude.
How about Japan and South Korea, they have temperate climates?
oh are we back on the temperature and humidity vs the virus thing again?

Florida is fairly hot and humid lots of covid cases

Arizona is quite hot and dry again lots of cases
Yes - they are sub-tropical which is exactly where you would expect to see coronavirus cases undergoing a steady rise at this time of year.

Japan and Korea also.



Edited by Elysium on Saturday 11th July 18:47

snuffy

9,812 posts

285 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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It pretty much comes down to this with the High Street/Town centers:

People are clearly avoiding them. Shopping in them is massively down.

Also, the lunchtime economy, supported by mainly office workers, is also massively down.

Boris wants more people in shops and more people back into offices.

So, he can do two things;

a) He can relax restrictions (social distancing, face masks)

or

b) He can tighten them.

Currently he seems to be favouring option (b). The question is, will that drive more people away than it attracts, or will it attract more people than it drives away ?



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