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Louis Balfour

26,292 posts

222 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Losing officers who the app has said have spent time near somebody who has later tested positive.
If it's good enough for the general public, it's good enough for the police surely?

pip t

1,365 posts

167 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
Just watching the BBC news. They were saying that our information from the app might be shared with the police.

I am sure none of us saw that coming.
Information from the manual track and trace service, not the app. The app doesn't have the information to give in this way.

Biker 1 said:
I'm guessing this might be one of the reasons that some/all(??) police forces were advised NOT to download the app when it was first released...
That advice has since been reversed. It related to the police owned devices, not personal devices, and *any* software is checked before it's approved for use on police devices. This app wasn't treated differently to any other. Just makes a good headline....

Louis Balfour

26,292 posts

222 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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pip t said:
Louis Balfour said:
Just watching the BBC news. They were saying that our information from the app might be shared with the police.

I am sure none of us saw that coming.
Information from the manual track and trace service, not the app. The app doesn't have the information to give in this way.

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Yep, Sky News has just clarified this and I edited my post accordingly.

It still isn't going to win hearts and minds though.

n3il123

2,608 posts

213 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
Yep, Sky News has just clarified this and I edited my post accordingly.

It still isn't going to win hearts and minds though.
Well version 1.0 of the app, version 2.0 that is rolled out because v1.0 isn't as effective as hoped on the other hand.

pip t

1,365 posts

167 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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n3il123 said:
Well version 1.0 of the app, version 2.0 that is rolled out because v1.0 isn't as effective as hoped on the other hand.
We're on version 2.0. Version 1 was the original back in May that didn't work on Apple devices because it was too privacy invasive, and therefore abandoned.

And that's your safeguard. Google & Apple have to allow contact tracing apps access to the bluetooth stack to work. They have been very clear about the standards that apps have to meet to be allowed to do that - any that don't meet it simply don't work.

So if the government wanted to introduce some authoritarian horror show of an app, they'd lose access to its raison d'être, the contact tracing.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but it'll be bloody obvious if it does - it won't be some sneaky update to the current app.

leef44

4,397 posts

153 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
pip t said:
Louis Balfour said:
Just watching the BBC news. They were saying that our information from the app might be shared with the police.

I am sure none of us saw that coming.
Information from the manual track and trace service, not the app. The app doesn't have the information to give in this way.

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Yep, Sky News has just clarified this and I edited my post accordingly.

It still isn't going to win hearts and minds though.
So it's actually nothing to do with the app

interstellar

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3,308 posts

146 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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It really is a st storm. My daughters school has just sent home year 11 for 2 weeks based off one case.
All come back after half term please when if another one of you gets it we will send you all home again. They will be lucky to be back a week before being off again.

This isn’t a long term strategy, it’s a mess.

RammyMP

6,776 posts

153 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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interstellar said:
It really is a st storm. My daughters school has just sent home year 11 for 2 weeks based off one case.
All come back after half term please when if another one of you gets it we will send you all home again. They will be lucky to be back a week before being off again.

This isn’t a long term strategy, it’s a mess.
My lads in year 11 and he’s had the same, whole year group sent home as one of them has had a positive test. That’s the procedure following government guidance apparently.

sim72

4,945 posts

134 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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interstellar said:
It really is a st storm. My daughters school has just sent home year 11 for 2 weeks based off one case.
All come back after half term please when if another one of you gets it we will send you all home again. They will be lucky to be back a week before being off again.

This isn’t a long term strategy, it’s a mess.
The school will have been told to do that by PHE/HPT. It's the same pretty much everywhere. We;ve sent home three year groups (two for 14 days, one for 10 days), and two random selections of around 300 kids in total (staff members tested positive). Oh, and around ten staff. We had everyone in last week for the first time since early September.



towser44

3,494 posts

115 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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RammyMP said:
interstellar said:
It really is a st storm. My daughters school has just sent home year 11 for 2 weeks based off one case.
All come back after half term please when if another one of you gets it we will send you all home again. They will be lucky to be back a week before being off again.

This isn’t a long term strategy, it’s a mess.
My lads in year 11 and he’s had the same, whole year group sent home as one of them has had a positive test. That’s the procedure following government guidance apparently.
My 8 year old was off all last week and because she went to after school club and the teacher there tested positive too (but at a later date) she can't go back until Thursday now rather than Tuesday when her class goes back. The mother of one her class mates works at the same school, but whilst her daughter has to stay at home like mine, she actually could (and did) carry on going to work. Makes sense doesn't it, not!

Scrump

22,027 posts

158 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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