How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 14)
Discussion
We're going to have a rash (I use the word advisedly) of headlines about how terrible it's going to be to leave the EU now, leading up to the final crunch.
No point in arguing each and every detail, especially when the arguments have been done to death over the last four years.
The Remain crowd are going to push as hard as they can for us to pass control back to the EU "for our own good".
The EU are going to push as hard as they can for us to pass control back to the EU for their own good.
It remains a simple fact that our long term economic well being depends on independent control of tariffs, trade, taxation and regulation. Concessions on state aid, level playing fields, regulation and third party trade deals are all to our long term detriment, though they might be dressed up in terms of limiting short term pain.
No doubt concessions will be made. The question is what? The alternative remains to walk, and I'm seeing little evidence that it would be worse than agreeing to a bad deal.
No point in arguing each and every detail, especially when the arguments have been done to death over the last four years.
The Remain crowd are going to push as hard as they can for us to pass control back to the EU "for our own good".
The EU are going to push as hard as they can for us to pass control back to the EU for their own good.
It remains a simple fact that our long term economic well being depends on independent control of tariffs, trade, taxation and regulation. Concessions on state aid, level playing fields, regulation and third party trade deals are all to our long term detriment, though they might be dressed up in terms of limiting short term pain.
No doubt concessions will be made. The question is what? The alternative remains to walk, and I'm seeing little evidence that it would be worse than agreeing to a bad deal.
don'tbesilly said:
Plenty of practice, so shouldn't present that many problems.
Jazzer's going to be busy over the next two and a half months, I'm sure there will be plenty more bad news stories to post up between now and the end of the year, he's like ///ajd/Gloria Slap was back in 2016/17/18, and like many more were at the end of 2019.
The closer December gets the more desperate the opposers will become.
Suppose this is my fault too?Jazzer's going to be busy over the next two and a half months, I'm sure there will be plenty more bad news stories to post up between now and the end of the year, he's like ///ajd/Gloria Slap was back in 2016/17/18, and like many more were at the end of 2019.
The closer December gets the more desperate the opposers will become.
St Nigel looking for more suckers.
OMFG there is a video! Its a must watch.
https://youtu.be/OZZjTMomQCM
Sway / Tuna / JSF - are you investing?
Stongle the finance wizard let us know if honest Nige's plan holds up to scrutiny.
How anyone could have believed his shtick is beyond me.
https://youtu.be/OZZjTMomQCM
Sway / Tuna / JSF - are you investing?
Stongle the finance wizard let us know if honest Nige's plan holds up to scrutiny.
How anyone could have believed his shtick is beyond me.
"The Prime Minister noted the desirability of a deal, but expressed his disappointment that more progress had not been made over the past two weeks."
"The Prime Minister said that he looked forward to hearing the outcome of the European Council and would reflect before setting out the UK’s next steps in the light of his statement of 7 September."
Downing Street Statement following the VdL phone call tonight.
"The Prime Minister said that he looked forward to hearing the outcome of the European Council and would reflect before setting out the UK’s next steps in the light of his statement of 7 September."
Downing Street Statement following the VdL phone call tonight.
Full release.
"This evening the Prime Minister spoke with Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission and Charles Michel, President of the European Council.
The leaders discussed the latest state of play of the negotiations on our future relationship with the EU, ahead of the October European Council.
The Prime Minister noted the desirability of a deal, but expressed his disappointment that more progress had not been made over the past two weeks.
The Prime Minister said that he looked forward to hearing the outcome of the European Council and would reflect before setting out the UK’s next steps in the light of his statement of 7 September."
"This evening the Prime Minister spoke with Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission and Charles Michel, President of the European Council.
The leaders discussed the latest state of play of the negotiations on our future relationship with the EU, ahead of the October European Council.
The Prime Minister noted the desirability of a deal, but expressed his disappointment that more progress had not been made over the past two weeks.
The Prime Minister said that he looked forward to hearing the outcome of the European Council and would reflect before setting out the UK’s next steps in the light of his statement of 7 September."
Jazzer77 said:
don'tbesilly said:
Plenty of practice, so shouldn't present that many problems.
Jazzer's going to be busy over the next two and a half months, I'm sure there will be plenty more bad news stories to post up between now and the end of the year, he's like ///ajd/Gloria Slap was back in 2016/17/18, and like many more were at the end of 2019.
The closer December gets the more desperate the opposers will become.
Suppose this is my fault too?Jazzer's going to be busy over the next two and a half months, I'm sure there will be plenty more bad news stories to post up between now and the end of the year, he's like ///ajd/Gloria Slap was back in 2016/17/18, and like many more were at the end of 2019.
The closer December gets the more desperate the opposers will become.
St Nigel looking for more suckers.
You brought Farage up, I didn't
rigga said:
Boris is going to look rather silly if he does not keep to his deadline, that's the problem with making them, especially when dealing with the EU who have never been in a hurry.
Express 
is prepping their readers for it.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1347555/Br...
don'tbesilly said:
Your fault for bringing an irrelevance into the thread?
You brought Farage up, I didn't
I can bring up whomever I wish.You brought Farage up, I didn't
If you're embarrased by Nigel Farage (Brexit champion - as per the article) thats your issue.
Perhaps in mid November we can start talking about that other anti EU nut - Marc Francois.
Jazzer77 said:
don'tbesilly said:
Your fault for bringing an irrelevance into the thread?
You brought Farage up, I didn't
I can bring up whomever I wish.You brought Farage up, I didn't
If you're embarrased by Nigel Farage (Brexit champion - as per the article) thats your issue.
Perhaps in mid November we can start talking about that other anti EU nut - Marc Francois.
You can bring up who you like, and I have zero reason to be embarrassed by Farage, what he does has nothing to do with me.
As I mentioned earlier Farage is irrelevant.
What happens in mid-November that's relevant to Francois and stops you talking about him now?
Jazzer77 said:
OMFG there is a video! Its a must watch.
https://youtu.be/OZZjTMomQCM
Sway / Tuna / JSF - are you investing?
Stongle the finance wizard let us know if honest Nige's plan holds up to scrutiny.
How anyone could have believed his shtick is beyond me.
Personnally I think he's a fhttps://youtu.be/OZZjTMomQCM
Sway / Tuna / JSF - are you investing?
Stongle the finance wizard let us know if honest Nige's plan holds up to scrutiny.
How anyone could have believed his shtick is beyond me.
king idiot. If he thinks he's qualified to run a tip sheet or financial education service, he's a f
king dangerous idiot. To be honest, I don't actually think he knows what he plans to do here, financial freedom? Wheres the capital coning from, buy gold and silver? Tit. His financial services background was a broker, so effectively leached off others execution flow, capital and trade ideas. Oh, and he worked for Refco, his CV suggesting during the period they were in full scandal mode.
Thats the longest of his speeches I've listened too, and still think he's a
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