Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?
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He needs get cutting out the cancer whilst in opposition.
Theres very little politics right now, Brexit is almost done, it is what it is, Covid isnt controlled by politics
Its a perfect time to get hacking,reforming and prepare for the next election. Decision, strong leadership, get rid of momentum, head for centre left, give the electorate a viable alternative.
Theres very little politics right now, Brexit is almost done, it is what it is, Covid isnt controlled by politics
Its a perfect time to get hacking,reforming and prepare for the next election. Decision, strong leadership, get rid of momentum, head for centre left, give the electorate a viable alternative.
Tony427 said:
Car-crash Press Conference for Starmer.
Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
People keep claiming Starmer is the future of politics - he's had just about a year to get ready for this report, and this is the response?Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
Tuna said:
Tony427 said:
Car-crash Press Conference for Starmer.
Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
People keep claiming Starmer is the future of politics - he's had just about a year to get ready for this report, and this is the response?Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
Tony427 said:
Car-crash Press Conference for Starmer.
Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
as opposed to trusting honest Boris ?
Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
as opposed to trusting honest Boris ?
A Winner Is You said:
Tuna said:
Tony427 said:
Car-crash Press Conference for Starmer.
Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
People keep claiming Starmer is the future of politics - he's had just about a year to get ready for this report, and this is the response?Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
There's form on his side of the House.
Former Labour Speaker Michael Martin aka Gorbals Mick said:
I didn't come into politics not to take what's owed to me.
Tuna said:
Tony427 said:
Car-crash Press Conference for Starmer.
Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
People keep claiming Starmer is the future of politics - he's had just about a year to get ready for this report, and this is the response?Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
jakesmith said:
Anyway I wonder what Sir Keir is going to do in the 6 weeks he has to respond to the EHRC findings. I can hardly believe it has come as a surprise to him
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425
3 breaches of the equality act
Political interference in anti-Semitism complaints
Failure to provide adequate training to those handling anti-Semitism complaints
Harassment
And shamefully, Labour managed to act fast against sexual harassment during this time proving they were capable of acting decisively when they had the will to do so
He’s got do act fast and decisively over this, what can he actually do though other than condemn what’s happened and make sure they have robust complaints processes in place? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425
3 breaches of the equality act
Political interference in anti-Semitism complaints
Failure to provide adequate training to those handling anti-Semitism complaints
Harassment
And shamefully, Labour managed to act fast against sexual harassment during this time proving they were capable of acting decisively when they had the will to do so
If there are complaints about specific people being anti Semitic then they ought to be dealt with obviously.
Saying Corbyn wasn’t actually named in the report seems a stretch though as his office is criticised and he’s in charge of it. As leader he’s responsible for setting the tone and leading by example and dealing with complaints properly is part of that.
"The equality body's analysis points to a culture within the party which, at best, did not do enough to prevent anti-Semitism and, at worst, could be seen to accept it."
Just as it Starmer’s job as leader now to deal with this properly.
To me most of the blame lies on Corbyn’s door due to his inaction. He might not be anti Semitic but he hasn’t dealt with complaints of it.
What happened to Berger is disgraceful.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-mps-resignati...
Vanden Saab said:
Tuna said:
Tony427 said:
Car-crash Press Conference for Starmer.
Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
People keep claiming Starmer is the future of politics - he's had just about a year to get ready for this report, and this is the response?Looked like a rabbit in the headlights for most of it.
When asked about the specific actions he would take he resorted to waffle and simply ignoring the question.
Who would trust him or the Labour party in the near future?
markyb_lcy said:
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Tories have had two female PMs / leaders. Ok, it’s two more than Labour, but it’s not exactly a groundbreaking difference ...
First female leader of a western nation (i think?) and 40 years later Labour have only had a woman in as caretaker in opposition for a few months? I'm not that fussed to be honest but the fact is my 7 year old daughter is now growing up in a world where female PM's are not unusual, ironically no thanks to the party that has positioned itself as the social justice or whatever it's called today party.Tories have had two female PMs / leaders. Ok, it’s two more than Labour, but it’s not exactly a groundbreaking difference ...
worsy said:
Corbyn suspended and Whip removed.
I had to check that as it isn't yet on the BBC, but here it is from Peston, that well known right wing journo..https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1321800159764877...
Kent Border Kenny said:
worsy said:
Corbyn suspended and Whip removed.
Breaking News.
I’m sure that those who previously defended him will be suitably contrite now.Breaking News.
It has plagued the opposition and made them unpalatable and therefore unelectable and therefore ineffective in their role for too long.
The sooner the loons are kicked out, the better.
fblm said:
markyb_lcy said:
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Tories have had two female PMs / leaders. Ok, it’s two more than Labour, but it’s not exactly a groundbreaking difference ...
First female leader of a western nation (i think?) and 40 years later Labour have only had a woman in as caretaker in opposition for a few months? I'm not that fussed to be honest but the fact is my 7 year old daughter is now growing up in a world where female PM's are not unusual, ironically no thanks to the party that has positioned itself as the social justice or whatever it's called today party.Tories have had two female PMs / leaders. Ok, it’s two more than Labour, but it’s not exactly a groundbreaking difference ...
A Winner Is You said:
worsy said:
Corbyn suspended and Whip removed.
Breaking News.
Wow. If ever there was a time to purge the Trots and Tankies, this is it.Breaking News.
Corbyn didn’t deal with the problem when he was in charge.
Then refused to accept responsibility after today’s findings
Sling him out.
El stovey said:
A Winner Is You said:
worsy said:
Corbyn suspended and Whip removed.
Breaking News.
Wow. If ever there was a time to purge the Trots and Tankies, this is it.Breaking News.
Corbyn didn’t deal with the problem when he was in charge.
Then refused to accept responsibility after today’s findings
Sling him out.
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