Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?

[Gargamel]

Oh dear, its not going very well is it.

[Hereward]

Jeez, the Lib Dems really are an utter irrelevance these days.

[AmitG]

Hereward said:

Jeez, the Lib Dems really are an utter irrelevance these days.

Below the Greens...that takes some doing.

[urquattroGus]

Definitely can't condone all of the self obsessed rants he posts but this one did make me chuckle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sv1tY81NM4

[Slagathore]

urquattroGus said:

Definitely can't condone all of the self obsessed rants he posts but this one did make me chuckle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sv1tY81NM4

It's quite sad/funny, I expect they were probably hoping to use those zingers in some compilation for social media ads etc, but he's made them completely unusable!

Complete and utter drivel for the most part. He has the easiest job in the world right now!

[glazbagun]

AmitG said:

Hereward said:

Jeez, the Lib Dems really are an utter irrelevance these days.

Below the Greens...that takes some doing.

And below the SNP, who only exist in a country of 5 million. Cleggmania seems so long ago.

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

I have no idea who the leader of the Lib Dems is? They are just irrelevant.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

I have no idea who the leader of the Lib Dems is? They are just irrelevant.

They should also change their name to something more truthful, Like the Liberal party.
They recently clearly proved to the UK, that they don't believe in democracy (when it does not give the results they want)

[turbobloke]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

I have no idea who the leader of the Lib Dems is? They are just irrelevant.

They should also change their name to something more truthful, Like the Liberal party.
They recently clearly proved to the UK, that they don't believe in democracy (when it does not give the results they want)

The Illiberal Party would be closer still. They're bigger "we know best" nannyist control freaks than all bar the equally unelectable greens.

[Andy 308GTB]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56301981

Watch our man answer the question (regarding his outrage about the 'insulting' 1% NHS pay rise)
'What would you give them?'

You can actually see his brain go 'Oh F@#k'

[Biker 1]

Andy 308GTB said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56301981

Watch our man answer the question (regarding his outrage about the 'insulting' 1% NHS pay rise)
'What would you give them?'

You can actually see his brain go 'Oh F@#k'

Just what it is with politicians not being capable of giving a straight answer??

[eliot]

I think he was expecting an easy ride from the beeb and was wrong footed when they asked a proper question.
Longer clip where the interviewer persists with the question and doesn’t get a response
https://youtu.be/G8VmdU9v8-Q

I suspect the BBC will be sending that journalist for ‘re-education’

Edited by eliot on Saturday 6th March 09:56

[768]

eliot said:

I suspect the BBC will be sending that journalist for ‘re-education’

I was scratching my head at the BBC branding and wondering if someone was getting fired.

Simple, obvious questions, directed at the cavernous void in the argument without unnecessary aggression. No wonder he wouldn't answer. Are there independent journalists reselling this stuff? Baffling, give her a promotion.

[Garvin]

768 said:

eliot said:

I suspect the BBC will be sending that journalist for ‘re-education’

I was scratching my head at the BBC branding and wondering if someone was getting fired.

Simple, obvious questions, directed at the cavernous void in the argument without unnecessary aggression. No wonder he wouldn't answer. Are there independent journalists reselling this stuff? Baffling, give her a promotion.

Starmer wittered on about a pay rise and admitted that the rise should be above the rate of inflation and what is being offered is effectively a pay cut. Now, correct me if I am wrong, I thought the annual inflation rate is currently running at ~0.6% so the 1% is a pay rise.

[turbobloke]

Garvin said:

768 said:

eliot said:

I suspect the BBC will be sending that journalist for ‘re-education’

I was scratching my head at the BBC branding and wondering if someone was getting fired.

Simple, obvious questions, directed at the cavernous void in the argument without unnecessary aggression. No wonder he wouldn't answer. Are there independent journalists reselling this stuff? Baffling, give her a promotion.

Starmer wittered on about a pay rise and admitted that the rise should be above the rate of inflation and what is being offered is effectively a pay cut. Now, correct me if I am wrong, I thought the annual inflation rate is currently running at ~0.6% so the 1% is a pay rise.

Yes 0.6% is what I read, Starmer's comment sounds like something from the Diane Abbott School of numeracy.

[768]

I think I'd heard 0.9%, possibly a different index. Even then it's a bit difficult to call it a pay cut if you have to choose which yardstick you're going to measure against.

Especially if you don't define what the rise should be and even suggest 1% would be fine for the pay rise you're demanding, if that's what an independent body concludes it should be.

[Grrbang]

As I understand it, we should be comparing the pay rise with next years inflation, which is predicted to be somewhere between 1-2%. In that sense it is a pay cut.

[anonymous-user]

Public sector pay should be much more comfortable ground for Starmer. Labour irrationally trying to justify gold star treatment for workshy, over-pensioned duvet-dayers is their stock in trade.

[Murph7355]

Grrbang said:

As I understand it, we should be comparing the pay rise with next years inflation, which is predicted to be somewhere between 1-2%. In that sense it is a pay cut.

Not to put too fine a point on it, we should be comparing it to everyone else who's been doing their job over the last 15mths.

[egor110]

768 said:

eliot said:

I suspect the BBC will be sending that journalist for ‘re-education’

I was scratching my head at the BBC branding and wondering if someone was getting fired.

Simple, obvious questions, directed at the cavernous void in the argument without unnecessary aggression. No wonder he wouldn't answer. Are there independent journalists reselling this stuff? Baffling, give her a promotion.

Even the last leg we're taking the piss out of him last night and there usually very right on labour supporters .