Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?
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He needs to do a Boris and purge the resistant, having radical MPs fail to denounce the obvious because 'wait for the facts' while a week before denouncing the unobvious immediately just highlights the unauthenticity of their words.
As Alistair Campbell said the other day 'lost, lost, lost, lost, Blair, Blair, Blair, lost, lost, lost, lost - sorry Nadia, you can't say fight the battle we fought in the last election - because you lost it'.
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/13739857723...
As Alistair Campbell said the other day 'lost, lost, lost, lost, Blair, Blair, Blair, lost, lost, lost, lost - sorry Nadia, you can't say fight the battle we fought in the last election - because you lost it'.
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/13739857723...
I'm listening to Sir Keir trying to score points about Boris's promise to maintain our armed forces. Firstly, it's a strange choice of subject when Labour isn't traditionally seen as the party of defence. Secondly, this whole "I, Sir Keir The Forensic Lawyer, will prove that Boris is a liar" is a waste of energy. Everyone knows Boris is a compulsive liar, U-turner, purveyor of weasel words and so on. The electorate don't really care about that, in my view. Perhaps they should, but the last election suggests that they don't, much.
Sir Keir Starmer comes across as a typical point scoring, grey lawyer, with no ideas or energy of his own. Can he revive the Labour party?
Sir Keir Starmer comes across as a typical point scoring, grey lawyer, with no ideas or energy of his own. Can he revive the Labour party?
Brave Fart said:
I'm listening to Sir Keir trying to score points about Boris's promise to maintain our armed forces. Firstly, it's a strange choice of subject when Labour isn't traditionally seen as the party of defence. Secondly, this whole "I, Sir Keir The Forensic Lawyer, will prove that Boris is a liar" is a waste of energy. Everyone knows Boris is a compulsive liar, U-turner, purveyor of weasel words and so on. The electorate don't really care about that, in my view. Perhaps they should, but the last election suggests that they don't, much.
Sir Keir Starmer comes across as a typical point scoring, grey lawyer, with no ideas or energy of his own. Can he revive the Labour party?
The last election was Bojo the liar v Grandad Trotsky the mental. There was little or no choice. The next election is bojo the liar v whoever can actually not sound like a total cretin...so bojo again. Where are the libs, where is nigel farage, the greens, anyone other than damp squib kier and crayons raynor. Makes me think blair coming back, chukka, cooper, balls etc would be betterSir Keir Starmer comes across as a typical point scoring, grey lawyer, with no ideas or energy of his own. Can he revive the Labour party?
Brave Fart said:
I'm listening to Sir Keir trying to score points about Boris's promise to maintain our armed forces. Firstly, it's a strange choice of subject when Labour isn't traditionally seen as the party of defence. Secondly, this whole "I, Sir Keir The Forensic Lawyer, will prove that Boris is a liar" is a waste of energy. Everyone knows Boris is a compulsive liar, U-turner, purveyor of weasel words and so on. The electorate don't really care about that, in my view. Perhaps they should, but the last election suggests that they don't, much.
Sir Keir Starmer comes across as a typical point scoring, grey lawyer, with no ideas or energy of his own. Can he revive the Labour party?
This is how PMQ's usually go between the 2 of themSir Keir Starmer comes across as a typical point scoring, grey lawyer, with no ideas or energy of his own. Can he revive the Labour party?
KS - question
BJ - waffle waffle waffle
KS - im going to ask the same question again
BJ - ive already answered that one, oh and labour are s
tKS - im gonna ask it again
BJ - ive already answered that, labour are still s
t, why wont you support usKS- im going to ask the same question again
BJ - you are literally wasting all your questions you silly man, waffle waffle something about record investment in something else.
KS - im going to ask the same question again, this time with reference to something on a sheet of paper
BJ - OK whatever dude, more waffle
KS - OK heres another question
BJ - thats your last question so doesn't matter what i say you cant come back to me with anything, see you next week sweet cheeks. Now over to that t
t Blackford for his questions.Edited by NextSlidePlease on Wednesday 24th March 14:04
768 said:
Libs and Greens are currently trying to manage a small PR issue on Reddit I believe.
If Take That can make a comeback I wouldn't put it past Blair to try.
I think Blair is waiting until he is absolutely sure he can win, then he will make a move. I have no doubt in my mind that he is on the lookout for a safe seat...If Take That can make a comeback I wouldn't put it past Blair to try.
NextSlidePlease said:
This is how PMQ's usually go between the 2 of them
KS - question
BJ - waffle waffle waffle
KS - im going to ask the same question again
BJ - ive already answered that one, oh and labour are st
KS - im gonna ask it again
BJ - ive already answered that, labour are still st, why wont you support us
KS- im going to ask the same question again
BJ - you are literally wasting all your questions you silly man, waffle waffle something about record investment in something else.
KS - im going to ask the same question again, this time with reference to something on a sheet of paper
BJ - OK whatever dude, more waffle
KS - OK heres another question
BJ - thats your last question so doesn't matter what i say you cant come back to me with anything, see you next week sweet cheeks. Now over to that tt Blackford for his questions.
KS - question
BJ - waffle waffle waffle
KS - im going to ask the same question again
BJ - ive already answered that one, oh and labour are s
tKS - im gonna ask it again
BJ - ive already answered that, labour are still s
t, why wont you support usKS- im going to ask the same question again
BJ - you are literally wasting all your questions you silly man, waffle waffle something about record investment in something else.
KS - im going to ask the same question again, this time with reference to something on a sheet of paper
BJ - OK whatever dude, more waffle
KS - OK heres another question
BJ - thats your last question so doesn't matter what i say you cant come back to me with anything, see you next week sweet cheeks. Now over to that t
t Blackford for his questions. Very good, and accurate too. Then Blackford usually demands more money for Scotland, to which Boris inevitably replies with something like "haha fatso, keep on frothing about Indyref2 that you're never going to get, you loser!"And on we go. It's rather pointless really, but I'm easily pleased.
AmitG said:
768 said:
Libs and Greens are currently trying to manage a small PR issue on Reddit I believe.
If Take That can make a comeback I wouldn't put it past Blair to try.
I think Blair is waiting until he is absolutely sure he can win, then he will make a move. I have no doubt in my mind that he is on the lookout for a safe seat...If Take That can make a comeback I wouldn't put it past Blair to try.
Why on earth would he bother?
Wombat3 said:
AmitG said:
768 said:
Libs and Greens are currently trying to manage a small PR issue on Reddit I believe.
If Take That can make a comeback I wouldn't put it past Blair to try.
I think Blair is waiting until he is absolutely sure he can win, then he will make a move. I have no doubt in my mind that he is on the lookout for a safe seat...If Take That can make a comeback I wouldn't put it past Blair to try.
Why on earth would he bother?
Starmer and labour falling further behind in the polls.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-repo...
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-repo...
How about Starmer moves himself to Shadow Chancellor and makes Nandy leader 
Keir Starmer 'could sack shadow chancellor' in bid to revive Labour's fortunes as poll shows party is EIGHT POINTS behind the Tories
Keir Starmer 'could sack shadow chancellor' in bid to revive Labour's fortunes as poll shows party is EIGHT POINTS behind the Tories
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: How about Starmer moves himself to Shadow Chancellor and makes Nandy leader
Keir Starmer 'could sack shadow chancellor' in bid to revive Labour's fortunes as poll shows party is EIGHT POINTS behind the Tories
As the saying goes - deputy heads must roll. Keir Starmer 'could sack shadow chancellor' in bid to revive Labour's fortunes as poll shows party is EIGHT POINTS behind the Tories
That's also a heads up for Crayons if Starmer gets a taste for it.
Nandy has a higher profile and she was quite impressive during the leadership campaign especially during the Andrew Neil interviews but I get the feeling she’s a little ‘wet behind the ears’ and could benefit from a few more years getting a bit more experienced. Definitely one to watch in the future though.
Dodds is an odd one in that she does say things that can be seen as sensible but the message is entirely lost as the listener completely switches off before she finishes the first sentence. She has little presence and is seen as too much of a light weight.
Starmer definitely needs to do something though. He’s lost any momentum (pardon the pun
) that he enjoyed when he was elected and he’s underestimated, as a lot of us have, how much the far-left have ingrained themselves into the Party. It’s becoming increasingly likely that Starmer is merely becoming a seat-warmer leader for the next incumbent and can only hope to put the building blocks in place to make themselves remotely electable probably the election after the next one.
Dodds is an odd one in that she does say things that can be seen as sensible but the message is entirely lost as the listener completely switches off before she finishes the first sentence. She has little presence and is seen as too much of a light weight.
Starmer definitely needs to do something though. He’s lost any momentum (pardon the pun
) that he enjoyed when he was elected and he’s underestimated, as a lot of us have, how much the far-left have ingrained themselves into the Party. It’s becoming increasingly likely that Starmer is merely becoming a seat-warmer leader for the next incumbent and can only hope to put the building blocks in place to make themselves remotely electable probably the election after the next one.valiant said:
Nandy has a higher profile and she was quite impressive during the leadership campaign especially during the Andrew Neil interviews but I get the feeling she’s a little ‘wet behind the ears’ and could benefit from a few more years getting a bit more experienced. Definitely one to watch in the future though.
It was a little tongue in cheek but each time I hear her speak she sounds very sensible and speaks pretty normally for a politician.bhstewie said:
hstewie said:valiant said:
Nandy has a higher profile and she was quite impressive during the leadership campaign especially during the Andrew Neil interviews but I get the feeling she’s a little ‘wet behind the ears’ and could benefit from a few more years getting a bit more experienced. Definitely one to watch in the future though.
It was a little tongue in cheek but each time I hear her speak she sounds very sensible and speaks pretty normally for a politician.king same Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff