Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Something darkly comical about how messed up politics is in this country when the bloke who isn't in charge is getting more scrutiny from the media and the public for not being in charge than the bloke who actually is in charge seems to get.
We're so fked 
Take the blinkers off. Rightly or wrongly someone's kicking Boris every day, Starmer barely gets a mention until he's allowed down the pub, or on a knee, or behind a wheel.We're so f
ked 98elise said:
Slightly OT, but the Christian Bakers were not being homophobic.The Supreme Court rightly sided with the Bakers in that it was the message on the cake they objected to, not the sexually of the activists/customer.
Fair enough, to be honest I didn't pay too much attention to it. Everyone involved seemed to be trying to be the bigger arse. Sway said:
Well, I don't think I've seen any examples of Johnson having his goons assaulting someone on their own premises. Or at all...
I do see a lot of scrutiny about Johnson though, I hear far more about him and his failings than I hear at all about Starmer.
Apparently Starmer had been invited by the pubs co-owner.I do see a lot of scrutiny about Johnson though, I hear far more about him and his failings than I hear at all about Starmer.
Not sure he's too impressed with Rod
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Sway said:
Well, I don't think I've seen any examples of Johnson having his goons assaulting someone on their own premises. Or at all...
I do see a lot of scrutiny about Johnson though, I hear far more about him and his failings than I hear at all about Starmer.
Apparently Starmer had been invited by the pubs co-owner.I do see a lot of scrutiny about Johnson though, I hear far more about him and his failings than I hear at all about Starmer.
Not sure he's too impressed with Rod
If they're co-owners, then it's the licensee on the premises who has absolute control.
Still doesn't permit Tommy Robinson style goons to start manhandling and shoving down stairs, does it?
swisstoni said:
Feel sorry for Starmer on this one.
Why?If he can't cope with an angry member of the electorate without:
Getting the goon squad to physically assault them
Sneering about not being lectured to by the likes of him
Having a sarky twitter response suggesting the only form of public input should be at the ballot box
Then he really shouldn't be in his position, and it certainly doesn't scan with the 'legal prosecutor super operator' image he likes to portray...
Sway said:
swisstoni said:
Feel sorry for Starmer on this one.
Why?If he can't cope with an angry member of the electorate without:
Getting the goon squad to physically assault them
Sneering about not being lectured to by the likes of him
Having a sarky twitter response suggesting the only form of public input should be at the ballot box
Then he really shouldn't be in his position, and it certainly doesn't scan with the 'legal prosecutor super operator' image he likes to portray...
markyb_lcy said:
otolith said:
Presumably the landlord's desire that the Labour opposition opposes anything the government does would have had him furious at Clement Attlee for not backing Hitler.
Are we talking pre, or post appeasement here?otolith said:
markyb_lcy said:
otolith said:
Presumably the landlord's desire that the Labour opposition opposes anything the government does would have had him furious at Clement Attlee for not backing Hitler.
Are we talking pre, or post appeasement here?
otolith said:
markyb_lcy said:
otolith said:
Presumably the landlord's desire that the Labour opposition opposes anything the government does would have had him furious at Clement Attlee for not backing Hitler.
Are we talking pre, or post appeasement here?Forgive me, I was being as facetious as I had put you down to have been.
The thing is the Landlord is correct in stating that Starmers refusal to hold the govt to account has killed many people.
4.7 million delays to hosipital treatments and huge queues for surgery to alleviate life threatening conditions will undoubtedly kill more people than Covid 19.
Yet Starmer, the forensic genius, won't be talked to by the likes of him.
Boris must be laughing himself silly. I wonder if there will be a witty quip next PMQ's ?
Boris needs to go, but Starmer is making him look good. We're doomed.
4.7 million delays to hosipital treatments and huge queues for surgery to alleviate life threatening conditions will undoubtedly kill more people than Covid 19.
Yet Starmer, the forensic genius, won't be talked to by the likes of him.
Boris must be laughing himself silly. I wonder if there will be a witty quip next PMQ's ?
Boris needs to go, but Starmer is making him look good. We're doomed.
Yeah, the 'likes of you' comment really is telling...
It's the same as Brown's 'terrible, bigoted woman' (or whatever it was he said).
Just shows complete contempt for normal people, and their views.
Amusingly, that's being presented as the position of Prince Phillip cause there were no members of the public or government at his funeral... Yet silence on here, and even sympathy for the knob.
It's the same as Brown's 'terrible, bigoted woman' (or whatever it was he said).
Just shows complete contempt for normal people, and their views.
Amusingly, that's being presented as the position of Prince Phillip cause there were no members of the public or government at his funeral... Yet silence on here, and even sympathy for the knob.
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