Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?
Discussion
digimeistter said:
Vanden Saab said:
I had no idea Darth Sidious was involved in politics? 
98elise said:
Trackdayer said:
Nothing on the main page of ITV news either.
Too busy worrying about Boris not filling in a form, rather than actual hate and racism from Labour.
They'll not have any members left at this rate.
Indeed. Sir Kier was all over the very serious issue of the PM's wallpaper on ITV's evening news a few minutes ago. Too busy worrying about Boris not filling in a form, rather than actual hate and racism from Labour.
They'll not have any members left at this rate.
Or question why we are still in lockdown.
But wallpaper. And a photo opportunity in a shop TO PROVE IT!
Its just pathetic. It really is.
williamp said:
98elise said:
Trackdayer said:
Nothing on the main page of ITV news either.
Too busy worrying about Boris not filling in a form, rather than actual hate and racism from Labour.
They'll not have any members left at this rate.
Indeed. Sir Kier was all over the very serious issue of the PM's wallpaper on ITV's evening news a few minutes ago. Too busy worrying about Boris not filling in a form, rather than actual hate and racism from Labour.
They'll not have any members left at this rate.
Or question why we are still in lockdown.
But wallpaper. And a photo opportunity in a shop TO PROVE IT!
Its just pathetic. It really is.
Gerradi said:
In answer to the title of this , he doesn't have to Johnson is doing a great job for him...
The irony-no matter how bad BJ is, he wins against the shower of s
t labour is. I think Johnson is a devious, lying politician but I’d never vote labour. Close in Blair’s hey days but a joke for the last 15 years plusFeck me, he actually stood in John Lewis holding a roll of wallpaper? How fking childish.
I really really wish we could get someone to get hold of the labour party and drag it from being childish protest politics to an effective opposition and genuine prospect for government. Instead, we get this....
Despite the excitement of some on here that seem to think Boris is getting a thorough kicking, he must be looking across at Starmer and laughing his socks off.
king childish.I really really wish we could get someone to get hold of the labour party and drag it from being childish protest politics to an effective opposition and genuine prospect for government. Instead, we get this....
Despite the excitement of some on here that seem to think Boris is getting a thorough kicking, he must be looking across at Starmer and laughing his socks off.
Unbusy said:
All the carp going on in the world and this chap needs an answer about decorating.
To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
He has made himself look like a bigger tit than I thought was possible.To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
Why is he giving Boris such an easy ride when he should be holding him to account on serious issues.
It's like he is treating the whole electorate like the lowest common denominator.
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Feck me, he actually stood in John Lewis holding a roll of wallpaper? How fking childish.
I really really wish we could get someone to get hold of the labour party and drag it from being childish protest politics to an effective opposition and genuine prospect for government. Instead, we get this....
Despite the excitement of some on here that seem to think Boris is getting a thorough kicking, he must be looking across at Starmer and laughing his socks off.
And, in other news, I see the Glorius Leader every day on the TV in a hard hat and hi-vis jacket or a lab coat doing exactly the same photo-op thing. Any fking childish.I really really wish we could get someone to get hold of the labour party and drag it from being childish protest politics to an effective opposition and genuine prospect for government. Instead, we get this....
Despite the excitement of some on here that seem to think Boris is getting a thorough kicking, he must be looking across at Starmer and laughing his socks off.
ker might suppose he didn’t have an important day job to attend to.General Price said:
He has made himself look like a bigger tit than I thought was possible.
Why is he giving Boris such an easy ride when he should be holding him to account on serious issues.
It's like he is treating the whole electorate like the lowest common denominator.
Why not? 90% of us fWhy is he giving Boris such an easy ride when he should be holding him to account on serious issues.
It's like he is treating the whole electorate like the lowest common denominator.
kwits will still vote for them whatever they do!Unbusy said:
All the carp going on in the world and this chap needs an answer about decorating.
To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
The answer isn't about wallpaper the answer is about allegedly undisclosed loans or political donations.To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
The allegation is that they're from a Lord and if you think how people become Lords (politicians usually make them Lords) it's quite important to know if they're helping politicians or political parties out financially.
Agreed Starmer shouldn't have done the wallpaper stunt in John Lewis.
Riff Raff said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Feck me, he actually stood in John Lewis holding a roll of wallpaper? How fking childish.
I really really wish we could get someone to get hold of the labour party and drag it from being childish protest politics to an effective opposition and genuine prospect for government. Instead, we get this....
Despite the excitement of some on here that seem to think Boris is getting a thorough kicking, he must be looking across at Starmer and laughing his socks off.
And, in other news, I see the Glorius Leader every day on the TV in a hard hat and hi-vis jacket or a lab coat doing exactly the same photo-op thing. Any fking childish.I really really wish we could get someone to get hold of the labour party and drag it from being childish protest politics to an effective opposition and genuine prospect for government. Instead, we get this....
Despite the excitement of some on here that seem to think Boris is getting a thorough kicking, he must be looking across at Starmer and laughing his socks off.
ker might suppose he didn’t have an important day job to attend to.
General Price said:
Unbusy said:
All the carp going on in the world and this chap needs an answer about decorating.
To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
He has made himself look like a bigger tit than I thought was possible.To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
Why is he giving Boris such an easy ride when he should be holding him to account on serious issues.
It's like he is treating the whole electorate like the lowest common denominator.
GMB also had a poll to se if viewers cared about the PM's wallpaper. The answer was the vast majority don't give a crap.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Unbusy said:
All the carp going on in the world and this chap needs an answer about decorating.
To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
The answer isn't about wallpaper the answer is about allegedly undisclosed loans or political donations.To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
The allegation is that they're from a Lord and if you think how people become Lords (politicians usually make them Lords) it's quite important to know if they're helping politicians or political parties out financially.
Agreed Starmer shouldn't have done the wallpaper stunt in John Lewis.
98elise said:
GMB had an interview this morning with a Government Minister about the Domestic Abuse Act. Kate Garraway way straight in with the important questions of the day "....so who paid for the PM's wallpaper?"
GMB also had a poll to se if viewers cared about the PM's wallpaper. The answer was the vast majority don't give a crap.
Of course they don't. The poll should be asking "Is it important your PM is honest?".GMB also had a poll to se if viewers cared about the PM's wallpaper. The answer was the vast majority don't give a crap.
Let's face it, Starmer and Labour have been more or less irrelevant through this and I don't see how they're going to get any of their momentum back (door left open for 'momentum' pun)?
98elise said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Unbusy said:
All the carp going on in the world and this chap needs an answer about decorating.
To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
The answer isn't about wallpaper the answer is about allegedly undisclosed loans or political donations.To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
The allegation is that they're from a Lord and if you think how people become Lords (politicians usually make them Lords) it's quite important to know if they're helping politicians or political parties out financially.
Agreed Starmer shouldn't have done the wallpaper stunt in John Lewis.
The issue is allegedly accepting/borrowing donations/money/loans/whatever and not declaring it.
Respectfully focussing on decorating is not seeing the wood for the trees.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Unbusy said:
All the carp going on in the world and this chap needs an answer about decorating.
To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
The answer isn't about wallpaper the answer is about allegedly undisclosed loans or political donations.To pose looking all stately at wallpaper for the press will no doubt come back to bite him in the future.
Is this the opposition we need?
The allegation is that they're from a Lord and if you think how people become Lords (politicians usually make them Lords) it's quite important to know if they're helping politicians or political parties out financially.
Agreed Starmer shouldn't have done the wallpaper stunt in John Lewis.
The problem is that Boris’ detractors completely misunderstand the public mood. They just see yet another go at Boris over something they see as trivial - guy got a loan and has paid it back. That it breaks the rules and is quite serious is, to them, like someone doing 35mph in a 30mph limit - trivial. One look at the ratings shows Boris to be popular and riding high on an extremely successful vaccine roll out programme. The public is more interested in the pandemic as that really does impinge on their day to day life.
The continual raking up of trivial issues also dilutes the serious ones whilst most are focussing on the pandemic, relaxations, getting back to normal etc. This just makes the continual carping boring and ever more trivial in their eyes.
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