Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 7)

[Hub]

mygoldfishbowl said:

steveo3002 said:

mygoldfishbowl said:

Has anyone else received one of these? On the back it says the tests only show if someone has the virus at this time and also that the tests are not 100% accurate. For that reason I am wondering whether to do it or not.

Edited by mygoldfishbowl on Friday 17th July 10:17

mrs got one...we slung it out

That's what I think I'll end up doing. I don't mind doing my civic duty so to speak, but I foresee possible problems with the lack of accuracy.

Yes, I got one today. Nothing to lose... have I?

[smashing]

Hub said:

Yes, I got one today. Nothing to lose... have I?

depends...enough positive tests around you and you'll soon be in lockdown....

[vaud]

2Btoo said:

Reliable counting or not, numbers are up today. Not good to look at.

This was never about getting to 0.

[grumbledoak]

Hub said:

Yes, I got one today. Nothing to lose... have I?

Only your freedom.

You do realize they've delegated civil liberties to traffic wardens now? Don't give them the excuse they're all itching for.

[rover 623gsi]

New positive tests and deaths

Monday 1 June - 1,418 / 111
Monday 8 June - 1,089 / 55
Monday 15 June - 874 / 38
Monday 22 June - 865 / 15
Monday 29 June - 735 / 25
Monday 6 July - 352 / 16
Monday 13 July - 530 / 11

Tuesday 2 June - 1,345 / 326
Tuesday 9 June - 1,059 / 289
Tuesday 16 June - 994 / 236
Tuesday 23 June - 730 / 171
Tuesday 30 June - 569 / 155
Tuesday 7 July - 534 / 155
Tuesday 14 July - 398 / 138

Wednesday 3 June - 1,232/ 365
Wednesday 10 June - 1,087 / 250
Wednesday 17 June - 912 / 184
Wednesday 24 June - 726 / 154
Wednesday 1 July - 605 / 176
Wednesday 8 July - 634 / 126
Wednesday 15 July - 538 / 85

Thursday 4 June - 1,140 / 177
Thursday 11 June - 918 / 152
Thursday 18 June - 945 / 137
Thursday 25 June - 636 / 149
Thursday 2 July - 556 / 89
Thursday 9 July - 649 / 85
Thursday 16 July - 642 / 66

Friday 5 June - 1,014 / 358
Friday 12 June - 938 / 204
Friday 19 June - 814 / 173
Friday 26 June - 641 / 186
Friday 3 July - 534 / 137
Friday 10 July - 506 / 48
Friday 17 July - 687 / 114

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga=2.185745450.2...

as others have pointed out, last Friday's figures were particularly low.

Edited by rover 623gsi on Friday 17th July 19:40

[anonymous-user]

Does seem to be accelerating.

[Douglas Quaid]

sambucket said:

Does seem to be accelerating.

You mean the testing? Yes. There is more now than there was.

[anonymous-user]

Douglas Quaid said:

You mean the testing? Yes. There is more now than there was.

Sure. China and Europe have stopped testing. That's it!

[MOTORVATOR]

The metric worth following is patients as they will show a relatively short lag from infection dates which is the critical date not the case or test date..

Across NHS ENgland today there are 1226 covid patients in hospital with 122 of those occupying a ventilator bed but not necessarily intubated. The admission rate is well below 100 daily now and that is spread across roughly 180 Class1 A&E capable hospitals.

That's 7% and 4% respectively of the peak.

Those figures have shown a steady daily reduction with no spikes to speak of and are near enough 50% of what they were at the end of June.And no the reduction hasn't been driven by patients dying.

If the current rate of decline continues despite pubs etc opening then expect those figures to half again by the end of the month.

[anonymous-user]

vaud said:

2Btoo said:

Reliable counting or not, numbers are up today. Not good to look at.

This was never about getting to 0.

You are correct is wasn’t at all.

But it is now!

[purplepolarbear]

cymatty said:

phe said:

Counting only those who died within 28 days of a positive #COVID19 test would include 35,664 deaths, and exclude 4,149 deaths in people with laboratory confirmed infection

Bit more than the 1k expected

Wonder how many more of rather than with would remove.

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Would a lot of those be those who were diagnosed, got put on a ventilator and hung on on the ventilator for a while before they died?

[worsy]

motco said:

This is no joke either, despite being a Mail article.

Andrew Wakefield is shagging Elle Macpherson!!!

[Carl_Manchester]

mygoldfishbowl said:

Has anyone else received one of these? On the back it says the tests only show if someone has the virus at this time and also that the tests are not 100% accurate. For that reason I am wondering whether to do it or not.

Edited by mygoldfishbowl on Friday 17th July 10:17

the only way to get a 100% pass rate on a test is to keep repeating the test until it hits 100%.

if people refuse the tests, we will have less data and we have far too many doctors running around these past few months with not enough data.

men log onto internet forums to moan about crap advice made
by said scientists and then throw the test forms in the bin.

as one of those moaners, i couldn’t, in good faith, refuse such a test. the quaks need the data.

[motco]

I wonder whether the non-English dwell-time of 28 days isn't erring on the other side by being a bit short. Some patients are reported to have died more than a month after a positive test, yet were unequivocally killed by Covid19.

[FiF]

worsy said:

motco said:

This is no joke either, despite being a Mail article.

Andrew Wakefield is shagging Elle Macpherson!!!

Hopefully someone somewhere is running off to fetch cricket bat ready to give Wakefield a good thump up the arse. Get in the fecking sack, there's a bit of space there, yes alongside 'Not a Dr' G McKeith.

[FiF]

[Stu T]

FiF said:

Very interesting, a bit of a trend emerging there.

[grumbledoak]

Stu T said:

FiF said:

Very interesting, a bit of a trend emerging there.

Meaningless without the test numbers and the age distribution of the infected.

[smashing]

grumbledoak said:

Stu T said:

FiF said:

Very interesting, a bit of a trend emerging there.

Meaningless without the test numbers and the age distribution of the infected.

no no no no just look at the graphs and prepare for that second wave!!!

[isaldiri]

Stu T said:

FiF said:

Very interesting, a bit of a trend emerging there.

Countries with very high levels of mask wearing or where it's mandated like Japan/Israel/Austria are showing increases in infections while UK/Sweden/Denmark with low levels of mask wearing have cases still holding steady.....?