Cummings and goings...

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Hippea

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I think the government have totally misread this situation. This problem is not going to go away and is going to do more and more damage to the government the longer it goes on.

Hippea

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valiant said:
Guess we won’t be seeing Boris until this blows over. Isn’t it two weeks until the next PMQs?

Probably on the internet looking at freezers...
He’s certainly nothing like his hero Churchill

Hippea

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Bye Bye Cummings! If true

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/n...

Spotted back in Durham over Easter, 30 miles away from where they were earlier staying. He had previously been in London days before.

Hippea

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Vanden Saab said:
bighop said:
Spotted walking by the river in Barnard Castle with his wife and child at Easter.
Taking his daily exercise? was that not allowed...did I miss something?
This was over Easter, weeks after he had travelled to Durham originally. He was in London days before meaning he travelled to Durham again. It was also 30 miles from where he was originally staying meaning he would have had to travel by car for exercise which was not allowed at that stage. Wrong on so many levels of can be proved.

Hippea

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With all the cabinet ministers gushing over Cummings today it makes a complete mockery of the government of these new allegations come to substance. How will they get out of this?

Surely in the age of the smart phone someone would have got a snap of him?

Hippea

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Red 4 said:
Hippea said:
Bye Bye Cummings! If true

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/n...

Spotted back in Durham over Easter, 30 miles away from where they were earlier staying. He had previously been in London days before.
Jeez. What a tt.

To be honest I think govt are underestimating the seriousness of the situation.
Times have been extremely tough for people during lockdown and many people have lost loved ones in the most dire of circumstances.

They need to cut this guy loose. Now. Forever.
The backlash will be huge if they don't.

The future doesn't seem all that bright economically and that's when the heat will really be turned up.
Any hint of naughtiness from anyone associated with govt and they need to be gone.
The govt need to get their house in order. Yesterday.
I think it goes deeper than that now, just cutting Cummings loose now is not enough. Cabinet ministers have very publicly sided with him today, their credibility will be seriously damaged from this.

I don’t get, if I was a cabinet minister I would be triple checking that he Cummings didn’t do anything else stupid before I tweeted my unquestioning support.

Hippea

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Starmer has potentially played a blinder in this, he and Labour have remained relatively quiet, allowing it to unfold and the damage to be done by itself. If this was Corbyn he would have been jumping up and down.

Hippea

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W12GT said:
Red 4 said:
Hippea said:
Red 4 said:
Hippea said:
Bye Bye Cummings! If true

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/n...

Spotted back in Durham over Easter, 30 miles away from where they were earlier staying. He had previously been in London days before.
Jeez. What a tt.

To be honest I think govt are underestimating the seriousness of the situation.
Times have been extremely tough for people during lockdown and many people have lost loved ones in the most dire of circumstances.

They need to cut this guy loose. Now. Forever.
The backlash will be huge if they don't.

The future doesn't seem all that bright economically and that's when the heat will really be turned up.
Any hint of naughtiness from anyone associated with govt and they need to be gone.
The govt need to get their house in order. Yesterday.
I think it goes deeper than that now, just cutting Cummings loose now is not enough. Cabinet ministers have very publicly sided with him today, their credibility will be seriously damaged from this.

I don’t get, if I was a cabinet minister I would be triple checking that he Cummings didn’t do anything else stupid before I tweeted my unquestioning support.
The obvious question is what did Boris know ?

Cummings is his right hand man and it's hard to believe Boris didn't know exactly where he was and what he was doing at all times during a National Emergency.
If found to be true and Boris still keeps him on then I’m guessing there is the opportunity to make the most of it and do a vote of no Confidence?
Boris may have been ‘clever’ as well. Correct me if I’m wrong but he hasn’t made any comment on this issue unlike many of his cabinet ministers. He could come out and denounce what Cummings has done and make out that he is doing the right thing and is control of the situation as PM.

Hippea

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V1nce Fox said:
Hippea said:
Boris may have been ‘clever’ as well. Correct me if I’m wrong but he hasn’t made any comment on this issue unlike many of his cabinet ministers. He could come out and denounce what Cummings has done and make out that he is doing the right thing and is control of the situation as PM.
I've never been more disappointed in a leader.
I almost feel sorry for him, he was on cloud 9 at the start of the year. He could have never imagined things could turn out so badly.

Hippea

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shed driver said:
I'm not a Conservative voter, so let's get that one out of the way first.

While DC was up in Durham I was making a video call to the daughter of one of my patients who was dying. She didn't argue or demand to come in to the hospital to hold her mother's hand, to comfort her as she was dying. Instead she got a WhatsApp call from me, an unknown nurse who was too busy to be with her mother at the moment of her death.

I lied to her when I phoned her back at 5am to say that she was peaceful and just slipped away and someone was there with her. In 35 years of nursing I have never felt so upset and affected, I cried as the daughter was thanking me.

This is why he must go. If his colleagues can't see it then they should go too.

I'm sorry, but this goes beyond politics. It's about the decent people who gave up so much.

SD.
Such a heartfelt post. Really puts things into perspective.

Hippea

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Dr Murdoch said:
The more I think about this, the more I think its a smokescreen.

Not saying it is, but if it is, they have played a blinder.
A smokescreen for what?

Hippea

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Jimboka said:
Was there a second visit to Durham area?
Yes that’s what is being reported

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/n...

Hippea

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mx5nut said:
Number 10 have decided to respond angrily without actually denying it.



They most likely don't know what they can get away with denying at the moment, as the frantic statements issued earlier have already been proven to be lies. Who knows what else the journalists involved have yet to release?
That screams Trump school of politics

Hippea

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What I’m finding is the press are so focused on Cummings but really I think Boris should be much more in the spotlight over this. He is the PM the buck stops with him. Cummings is Boris's advisor, Boris is accountable but is not being held accountable.

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Gareth79 said:
rover 623gsi said:
The timings would make that a third trip?
Just gets worse and worse

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PHuzzy said:
Meh, I've driven 1000s of miles around the UK during lockdown and had to work within 2m of a large number of people.

It comes across that people are more annoyed that he's done the type of things that they want to do but haven't.
A journey in a car from one place to another isn't all that bad, especially compared to what some other people have had to do and what others have chosen to do.

Sure, slap his wrists and make him look like a dick but demanding his resignation and people being "incandescent with rage"?
I didn't see quite this much outrage for all of those knobheads clapping on bridges in London. Did we sack all of them/make them all resign?
What's the difference?
He had Coronavirus when he was travelling potentially putting people at risk.
He is one of the people coming up with the lockdown guidelines, set a bloody example.

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The Spruce Goose said:
R-t6t6s said:
the government will have been shown to be either dishonest or incompetent, both of which are a major concern, although possibly not a surprise!
The government defended the comments, ''if that means some pensioners die, too bad”. If it is proved right DC lied, No. 10 backed him up, where does the very sorry affair end?
Let’s hope Starmer is quiet because he’s putting his legal mind at work on a case.

Hippea

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Some interesting suggestions made just now. When Cummings travelled to Durham there were hardly any cases there but London was a hot spot. Durham is now one of the hardest hit. Cummings a super spreader?

Hippea

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They nicked my title -


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shed driver said:
I wonder which cabinet minister is going to be first to break ranks?

SD.
I was wondering that, are there any cabinet ministers who haven’t released a statement defending Cummings?