Cummings and goings...
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eliot said:
Thing is, he was clearly briefing against Boris to Laura Kuenssberg when he was office, with her asking all the loaded and awkward questions.
So him choosing her for this interview doesn’t really carry much weight. I bet he wouldn’t subject himself to an interview with brillo.
He juts comes across as a bitter former employee. Regardless of who’s telling the truth and to an extent cummings knows the dirt - you simply keep your gob shut and move on with your life, but DC seems completely obsessed with score settling - I’m not convinced anyone outside Westminster and the media give a s
t.
I tend to agree with this.So him choosing her for this interview doesn’t really carry much weight. I bet he wouldn’t subject himself to an interview with brillo.
He juts comes across as a bitter former employee. Regardless of who’s telling the truth and to an extent cummings knows the dirt - you simply keep your gob shut and move on with your life, but DC seems completely obsessed with score settling - I’m not convinced anyone outside Westminster and the media give a s
t.The more revelations he comes out with now, the more incredible it seems to me that he was happy to keep quiet about them when he was in the inner circle, assuming they are indeed true.
He just comes across as a jilted ex. This whole “I’m here to put the record straight for the little people” persona rings hollow for me. If Boris hadn’t pushed him out I’m not convinced we would’ve heard any of these revelations, he’d still be inside pulling strings, treating the general public like data points.
Durzel said:
I tend to agree with this.
The more revelations he comes out with now, the more incredible it seems to me that he was happy to keep quiet about them when he was in the inner circle, assuming they are indeed true.
He just comes across as a jilted ex. This whole “I’m here to put the record straight for the little people” persona rings hollow for me. If Boris hadn’t pushed him out I’m not convinced we would’ve heard any of these revelations, he’d still be inside pulling strings, treating the general public like data points.
I’m not so sure, despite all the cries of sour grapes it appears nobody is threatening legal action to shut him up, or directly challenging the veracity of his claims. I’m not sure what Cummings’ end game is in all of this, but I really don’t think this is simply score settling, he strikes me as more complex than that. The more revelations he comes out with now, the more incredible it seems to me that he was happy to keep quiet about them when he was in the inner circle, assuming they are indeed true.
He just comes across as a jilted ex. This whole “I’m here to put the record straight for the little people” persona rings hollow for me. If Boris hadn’t pushed him out I’m not convinced we would’ve heard any of these revelations, he’d still be inside pulling strings, treating the general public like data points.
DeejRC said:
I have a horrible feeling it’s Gove. It’s all about Gove.
I agree. He’s the Machiavellian swinging puppet master. Keeping in the shadows and avoiding all the blame whilst enthusiastic Boris bounds around from one debacle to another. He knows he’s not popular enough though to overthrow the loved bumbling king so can’t do much but wait and try and destabilise him with death by a thousand cuts.
Rubbish as Boris is at leading anything, he at least seems to be driven by wanting to be loved. Gove seems driven by something a bit more sinister.
I think Gove wants to be pm and have Cummings as his sidekick or at least use him to help get there.
Hippea said:
Surprised the BBC are airing a interview like this which effectively is undermining the government. Something I would expect more from ITV or Channel 4
Don’t get me wrong not defending Boris at all, just surprised with the ‘impartial’ BBC
Really?Don’t get me wrong not defending Boris at all, just surprised with the ‘impartial’ BBC
Don’t you think the nation should know if Bozza was happy to allow the possible needless slaughter of up to 3 million of his citizens?
And I expect many of those old folks voted for the charlatan.
Welshbeef said:
Hippea said:
sevensfun said:
Hippea said:
He was right tooCovid per all the charts we are shown has killed the very oldest and sickest in society.
If Boris had said it doesn’t kill the very oldest but middle age he would have been lying
Unknown_User said:
Hippea said:
Surprised the BBC are airing a interview like this which effectively is undermining the government. Something I would expect more from ITV or Channel 4
Don’t get me wrong not defending Boris at all, just surprised with the ‘impartial’ BBC
Really?Don’t get me wrong not defending Boris at all, just surprised with the ‘impartial’ BBC
Don’t you think the nation should know if Bozza was happy to allow the possible needless slaughter of up to 3 million of his citizens?
And I expect many of those old folks voted for the charlatan.
Old folks love Boris, that’s by far his biggest demographic, they’re the only age group that actually think he’s doing well.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/bori...
Dr Jekyll said:
Why exactly is this supposed to be such a revelation?
Being reluctant to impose a massive restriction of civil liberties should be the default position. The fact that most of the population have little to fear from covid is a legitimate argument for being more reluctant.
This x 1000Being reluctant to impose a massive restriction of civil liberties should be the default position. The fact that most of the population have little to fear from covid is a legitimate argument for being more reluctant.
This attitude that the only "morally right" position is to cheerlead for endless lockdown, and not even attempt to examine alternative options like shielding the vulnerable, is bizarre.
All he is showing with these messages is that Boris isn't part of some organised conspiracy, just a man out of depth and without courage or the conviction of what are likely his true beliefs.
I don't understand why he keeps on creeping out of the woodwork.
He's more of a caricature than his Dpitting Image puppet.
He comes across as so bitter.
Boris is a buffoon but I agreed then and do know with his stance early on in the pandemic. Why should he have locked down the whole country because it appeared old people were dying from a virus.
The default position wasn't Lockdown at the time.
He's more of a caricature than his Dpitting Image puppet.
He comes across as so bitter.
Boris is a buffoon but I agreed then and do know with his stance early on in the pandemic. Why should he have locked down the whole country because it appeared old people were dying from a virus.
The default position wasn't Lockdown at the time.
rover 623gsi said:
And I still don’t believe any of his fairytales about the Durham trip
Which just showed he wasn't as clever or thoughtful as he thought he was. His rose garden explanation was plainly rubbish, broke all the rules everyone was being asked to stick to, and it exposed his parents holiday cottage built without planning permission, no council tax paid on it for years...Byker28i said:
Which just showed he wasn't as clever or thoughtful as he thought he was. His rose garden explanation was plainly rubbish, broke all the rules everyone was being asked to stick to, and it exposed his parents holiday cottage built without planning permission, no council tax paid on it for years...
All of which is true, but I think those framing him as someone with a grudge are being played, there’s far more to it and I tend to agree that it has the hallmark of Gove/Murdoch. I stated earlier, but as far as I can see there have been no outright denials of the disgusting comments attributed to the PM.ChocolateFrog said:
I don't understand why he keeps on creeping out of the woodwork.
Because his 'revelations' reinforce a particular view of the Government. This is a headline on the BBC website, being run in parallel to the promotion of the exclusive interview:BBC said:
Agree with him or not, Dominic Cummings's words matter
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