US Riots

[rodericb]

So rap music star Ice Cube proposes his Contract With Black America to the Democrat and Republican parties. The Democrats say "yeah thanks for that we'll look at it after the election". The Republicans say "yes, we'll take it on right now and work it into our plans". Cue meltdowns and screeching...

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ice-...
https://www.complex.com/life/2020/10/ice-cube-help...
https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/521096-trump...

[Gameface]

Perhaps they feel they should turn to people better qualified than a rapper for social change?

And do you honestly think Trump's administration will actually heed and implementation a single piece of it?

[vetrof]

Gameface said:

Perhaps they feel they should turn to people better qualified than a rapper for social change?

As evidenced by Biden's interview during the DNC with that intellectual giant Cardi B.

[Gameface]

Not seen it. Was Biden asking him/her for policy advice?

[anonymous-user]

Gameface said:

Not seen it. Was Biden asking him/her for policy advice?

No he was just trying to milk it for the likez.

[red_slr]

NMNeil said:

red_slr said:

Looks like a CZ P10 in 9mm to me, could be something else though.

Very tall front sight, so I was thinking FN 509 or Springfield XD-M Elite

Could be the 509, hard to tell from the pics. The 509 and P10 look very similar from a few feet away.

[rodericb]

Gameface said:

Perhaps they feel they should turn to people better qualified than a rapper for social change?

And do you honestly think Trump's administration will actually heed and implementation a single piece of it?

Historically speaking they'd be better off trying with the Republicans

So it's either a rapper, a bunch of people intent on smashing the place up or the people who have been doing such a stellar job so far?


and yeah, maybe it'll go nowhere but at least he didn't get completely blown off by the Republicans.

[Tony Starks]

rodericb said:

Historically speaking they'd be better off trying with the Republicans

So it's either a rapper, a bunch of people intent on smashing the place up or the people who have been doing such a stellar job so far?


and yeah, maybe it'll go nowhere but at least he didn't get completely blown off by the Republicans.

I was always under the assumption the the Republicans were the ones that were historically racist, as we're always told the right are racist.
After reading up on the Jim Crow laws I was surprised that almost all segregation was initiated by the Dems.

[buggalugs]

I noticed the Javier Torres incident that sparked the Raleigh riots was covered on a youtube channel I follow yesterday. The guy was 100% responsible for what happened to him yet people still use it as an excuse to go smash stuff up, incited by rubbish on social media. Undermining any genuine efforts at social change.

As a thought experiment shold people who post utter rubbish on social media face legal penalties of some kind?

[red_slr]

State Attorney Michael Nerheim said in a statement all charges now dropped against Rittenhouse (in Illinois).
He remains in custody due to pending charges in Wisconsin.

Next hearing is at the end of the month, I guess eventually they will move him to WI at which point there will have to be a trial and I expect thats going to take months.

[techguyone]

red_slr said:

NMNeil said:

red_slr said:

Looks like a CZ P10 in 9mm to me, could be something else though.

Very tall front sight, so I was thinking FN 509 or Springfield XD-M Elite

Could be the 509, hard to tell from the pics. The 509 and P10 look very similar from a few feet away.

Looks more like a modified glock, those tall sights are suppressor sights, commonly fitted with red dot sights to co-witness.

[red_slr]

Yea I was thinking he will be running co-wit on his irons although unusual to run that tall of a front post IMHO because thats a lot of DOPE to keep in your head if the SHTF and you have to take a 75 yard shot and dont want to shoot someone in the knees. Sight picture would be all slide!!

Either way the dude is a pro though.

[g4ry13]

buggalugs said:

I noticed the Javier Torres incident that sparked the Raleigh riots was covered on a youtube channel I follow yesterday. The guy was 100% responsible for what happened to him yet people still use it as an excuse to go smash stuff up, incited by rubbish on social media. Undermining any genuine efforts at social change.

As a thought experiment shold people who post utter rubbish on social media face legal penalties of some kind?

I don't think there's any more thought in it other than Police shoot non-caucasian person = let's riot

Details are irrelevant to those who will 'protest' in the streets.

[techguyone]

red_slr said:

Yea I was thinking he will be running co-wit on his irons although unusual to run that tall of a front post IMHO because thats a lot of DOPE to keep in your head if the SHTF and you have to take a 75 yard shot and dont want to shoot someone in the knees. Sight picture would be all slide!!

Either way the dude is a pro though.

He looks trained, I haven't seen any footage of him drawing and shooting, apart from the stills maybe the police have that footage so not public domain, I'd expect him to be screwed though as not licenced.

[buggalugs]

g4ry13 said:

buggalugs said:

I noticed the Javier Torres incident that sparked the Raleigh riots was covered on a youtube channel I follow yesterday. The guy was 100% responsible for what happened to him yet people still use it as an excuse to go smash stuff up, incited by rubbish on social media. Undermining any genuine efforts at social change.

As a thought experiment shold people who post utter rubbish on social media face legal penalties of some kind?

I don't think there's any more thought in it other than Police shoot non-caucasian person = let's riot

Details are irrelevant to those who will 'protest' in the streets.

They are. I guess what I'm thinking is, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to shout fire in a crowded theatre. Should it mean you can incite riots via Facebook by peddaling a bogus narrative.

[g4ry13]

buggalugs said:

g4ry13 said:

buggalugs said:

I noticed the Javier Torres incident that sparked the Raleigh riots was covered on a youtube channel I follow yesterday. The guy was 100% responsible for what happened to him yet people still use it as an excuse to go smash stuff up, incited by rubbish on social media. Undermining any genuine efforts at social change.

As a thought experiment shold people who post utter rubbish on social media face legal penalties of some kind?

I don't think there's any more thought in it other than Police shoot non-caucasian person = let's riot

Details are irrelevant to those who will 'protest' in the streets.

They are. I guess what I'm thinking is, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to shout fire in a crowded theatre. Should it mean you can incite riots via Facebook by peddaling a bogus narrative.

Isn't it basically inciting terrorism?

[NMNeil]

red_slr said:

Could be the 509, hard to tell from the pics. The 509 and P10 look very similar from a few feet away.

I'm sure all will be revealed in time

[NMNeil]

techguyone said:

He looks trained, I haven't seen any footage of him drawing and shooting, apart from the stills maybe the police have that footage so not public domain, I'd expect him to be screwed though as not licenced.

He had a valid concealed carry permit.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/10/12/matthew-dol...

[techguyone]

NMNeil said:

techguyone said:

He looks trained, I haven't seen any footage of him drawing and shooting, apart from the stills maybe the police have that footage so not public domain, I'd expect him to be screwed though as not licenced.

He had a valid concealed carry permit.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/10/12/matthew-dol...

Sorry, meant licensed as an armed security guard.

[amusingduck]

Interesting analysis of the security guard shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvwkgWbfC-w

I thought he'd have a pretty strong case for self defence. Apparently not - it seems Colorado law requires proportionate response, and that your actions are the only remedy (unlike Wisconsin with the Rittenhouse case)