US presidential election 2020:Winner? Vol.2

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unrepentant said:

Unless there is a change in the Governor's mansion in Vermont in November Bernie is staying exactly where he is.

That's true, no need for another unelected GOP senator! I was thinking more in policies,as opposed to something like SecState.
Even if not I'm sure Bernie will be there to ensure no backsliding,but the 2 do seem to work well together

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Even if Byrisma and China DID hire Hunter Biden to gain influence with his dad, is there any evidence that dad did anything for them? Trump looked repeatedly in Ukraine and China (& elsewhere with Barr's little trips)& has nothing
Hunter got a job on daddy's name which isn't unusual amongst the rich...just look at the jobs Ivanka got!

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Once the full extent of this criminality becomes clear, the call for punishment will get louder, and if it's a Dem held House and Senate, hiding stuff will hopefully be very hard. Plus AG Tish and several others are gagging to get at him as a private citizen

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Are the 50 or so people actually living in Montana all idiots?
At least they only have 3 EC votes

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Who else will let them carry on being racist and murdery?
Article mentions Trump's support for 9/11 responders payments.IIRC that was pretty much down to Jon Stewart, the GOP opposed it

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Interesting article on GOP voter suppression, intimidation, confusion,etc.
Didn't know there was an agreement that neither party would do stuff at polling stations, that ended with Trump! Cant think why?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-fea...

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Private Eye is a satirical magazine but has some excellent investigative reporting

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I can't see the US lurching madly to the left as Legion claims if Biden gets in, it may become more centrist (in a UK sense) & certainly less fascist.
That depends of course on Biden honouring his agreement with Sanders (I think he will) & eventually the USA may be dragged into the 21st century!
Since lots of Dems voted to refuse a mere 10% reduction in military spending, it may take a while.

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paulguitar said:

Gameface said:

And another one. Suppose it's to be expected as the election looms. Please ignore them.

I don't want to ignore them, I'd prefer to correct them.

I'd rather a ton of facts got dropped on them for education... like an Acme brick on Wile E. Coyote

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unrepentant said:

The Tango Turd has had to back down and cancel the GOP Convention. .... .

Yet opens schools, and threatens to cut off money if they don't open
Barron's school will remain shut though...funny that

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Drezza said:

mikal83 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/aug...

Ok, so people are defending themselves against people trying to blockade their vehicles and posing a threat to them?

Where's the burning down buildings you mentioned?

Looks more like a bunch of thugs driving into unarmed protesters in massive penis-substitute pick ups with, at MINIMUM, a reckless abandon,.
If "threatened" in their multi-ton tanks by people they tower over, why not reverse? Why be there in the first place?

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Drezza said:

Ah yes, forgot how unfashionable it was to be patriotic these days.

Maybe wanting America to be a better, more equal place for everyone, no matter what colour, sex, religion, sexuality, etc, is more patriotic than wanting violence, disorder, hate and division? Driving trucks into crowds falls into the latter IMHO.

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Lincoln Project are doing great but here's an Aussie take on Trump & the election(NSFW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpIkl2QnJeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klUweWE-u6A

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Wills2 said:

I think Trump is going to win (that's think not wish) The disorder isn't playing well and Trump is placing it at the feet of the dems, if he successfully keeps it there then you might find enough people in the swing states that hold their nose and vote him in again.

How come Biden has to answer for every nutter with a molotov currently, but no one takes Trump to task for the right wing terrorism that is increasing massively under his rule?

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Wills2 said:

kowalski655 said:

How come Biden has to answer for every nutter with a molotov currently, but no one takes Trump to task for the right wing terrorism that is increasing massively under his rule?

Why are you asking me? I didn't say he has to I just said what Trump is trying to do.

Not you specifically,h quote was used for context.
It just seems that the riots are blamed on the cities/mayors/governors being Dem(hence the blame goes to Biden), Trumpettes dont acknowledge their glorious leader's role...but they can hardly be expected to
The media certainly doesnt seem to be pressing hard on this to Trump..but I guess riots make better TV

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Guardian has a piece about how Biden resigned from the 1987 Presidential race because he forgot to credit Neil Kinnock in one of his speeches, by accident. The plagiarism"scandal" meant he dropped out, can you imagine Trump doing that?
Kinnock has some forthright views on the candidates too
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/u...

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Gameface said:

blackrabbit said:

OK well you may want to tell the Dems not to say it anymore then.

Perhaps you can provide a clip of Biden saying "We are going to defund the police" instead.

Why does "defund the Police" equal "sack all cops" in the minds of Trumpettes? Its getting better social programs,mental health help,etc to communities,rather than spending money on APCs for cops, so will reduce crime & other problems the police have to deal with. But fewer guns are always bad in their minds

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Countdown said:

Castrol for a knave said:

Fox News rots your brain.

Not just Fox News - it's also the likes of Alec Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, and the plethora of "TV Evangelists". Imagine a cross between David icke and Nigel Farage.......

The older generation have seen this & grew up with it, plus the "reds under the beds" view of anything communist thus socialism=bad, whereas the younger generation see socialism as other countries providing basic human needs.
Bernie,AOC, Warren,certainly not Biden, are not "Socialists"

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The first debate(of 3) * has a Fox journalist, but he has been critical of Trump and Trump doesnt like him at all. Hopefully he will be properly independent
The parties get no say in the moderators

* Trump is more likely to run away from No.'s 2 & 3 if 1 goes bad

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blackrabbit said:

........... People do not want super high tax rates, open immigration, free college and free healthcare for all. Thats why Bernie and Warren couldn't even win the Democratic primary.

And there it is folks,the GOP attitude in a nutshell! "Ive got mine so fk the rest of you. Too bad if you're poor,or sick, or the wrong colour (i.e. not white)"