US presidential election 2020:Winner? Vol.2

US presidential election 2020:Winner? Vol.2

Poll: US presidential election 2020:Winner? Vol.2

Total Members Polled: 343

Joseph R Biden: 53%
Donald J Trump: 44%
A.N. Other : 3%
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_dobbo_

14,379 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Oh good, we're doing baseless ad-homs with stty memes now.

paulguitar

23,431 posts

113 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
For someone who lives in Wiltshire you've really got a bug up your arse about President Trump in America haven't you.

When he wins again later this year you will be like this...


Mmm...One suspects that might be you come November. In the meantime, do you have anything whatsoever to contribute?




Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
When he wins again later this year you will be like this...


If he doesn't win, will that be you?

The man's a fking imbecile of the highest order and so is anybody who defends him.

unrepentant

21,258 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
For someone who lives in Wiltshire you've really got a bug up your arse about President Trump in America haven't you.

When he wins again later this year you will be like this...


Do you have anything worthwhile to contribute to the debate or are you just another pointless troll?

Budflicker

3,799 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I imagine that anything i post that isn't anti-Trump and pro Biden would not be seen as contributing to the thread anyway.


I've made my thoughts clear in the past, Trump is terrible but he was a better option for many over Clinton and I have a feeling the dems have made the same mistake again with Creepy Alzheimer's Joe.

All the posts on this thread are just slagging Trump off, where are the posts detailing the policies and reasons that Joe Biden is such a good candidate for president? It seems to me the best reason many of you can come up with is that you think he will be better than 4 more years of Trump and that is good enough?

Please without mentioning Trump what are some of the policies and personal traits that make you think Joe Biden is such a good candidate for president?


For me it is just a shame that the choice given to the electorate is so poor. Surely the USA could come up with two better candidates than this, and the last one.

Where are all the brightest and best that the USA have to offer and why is the system so damaged that they are not on the ballot?

So no i'm not just trolling at all, but for someone living in Wiltshire he spends an awful lot of time posting anti-Trump posts which seems a little obsessional. Hence the meme.





paulguitar

23,431 posts

113 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
I imagine that anything i post that isn't anti-Trump and pro Biden would not be seen as contributing to the thread anyway.


I've made my thoughts clear in the past, Trump is terrible but he was a better option for many over Clinton and I have a feeling the dems have made the same mistake again with Creepy Alzheimer's Joe.

All the posts on this thread are just slagging Trump off, where are the posts detailing the policies and reasons that Joe Biden is such a good candidate for president? It seems to me the best reason many of you can come up with is that you think he will be better than 4 more years of Trump and that is good enough?

Please without mentioning Trump what are some of the policies and personal traits that make you think Joe Biden is such a good candidate for president?


For me it is just a shame that the choice given to the electorate is so poor. Surely the USA could come up with two better candidates than this, and the last one.

Where are all the brightest and best that the USA have to offer and why is the system so damaged that they are not on the ballot?

So no i'm not just trolling at all, but for someone living in Wiltshire he spends an awful lot of time posting anti-Trump posts which seems a little obsessional. Hence the meme.
I'm just heading out to do an Amazon return, so no time to respond properly right now, but thank you for doing a real post, so much better than the previous trolling effort. smile

Byker28i

59,855 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
For someone who lives in Wiltshire you've really got a bug up your arse about President Trump in America haven't you.
What part of a discussion don't you understand, and I must update my profile...

Byker28i

59,855 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
So no i'm not just trolling at all, but for someone living in Wiltshire he spends an awful lot of time posting anti-Trump posts which seems a little obsessional. Hence the meme.
I've posted polling results for the last two days, plus trumps reaction in a thread about the election. Whats strange about that?

I've also posted m comments several times about Biden, so I'm not going to repeat. I suggest you go do some reading.

For someone not trolling...
Budflicker said:
...Creepy Alzheimer's Joe.

Please without mentioning Trump what are some of the policies and personal traits that make you think Joe Biden is such a good candidate for president?
Thats impossible in an election thread because it's decided between the two candidates and you need to make comparisons.

trumps achieved nothing for the US in the last 3.5 years and is currently throwing away his election chances. So in looking at Biden and what he says you have to look at what trumps done and what Biden would do differently.

As for Biden - fully published on his campaign website - have a read
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

Or if you want a simple pictorial version
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-...

Bidens better for the environment that trump, who is relaxing all regulations put in place by Obama, renewable energies etc that trump hates.
trumps spent some time trying to dismantle medicare, Biden of course helped Obama put it all on place. Biden supports limiting campaign finance, trump takes money from anyone including foreign donators, which is forbidden.

Firearm restrictions, including a proper national registry and banning through buy back of assault weapons.

Immigration, citizenship for dreamers etc, Biden has fairer policies that trump who just want to appeal to his base by blaming them for everything.

I could give a full and detailed answer, but I suggest that you wouldn't read it anyway.

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 11th June 17:03

Down and out

2,700 posts

64 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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unrepentant said:
Budflicker said:
For someone who lives in Wiltshire you've really got a bug up your arse about President Trump in America haven't you.

When he wins again later this year you will be like this...


Do you have anything worthwhile to contribute to the debate or are you just another pointless troll?
Trump will not be president, nor will he get the nomination. What he is is gold for Hillary. Whoever does get the nomination will have Trump's words thrown back at him all through the GE campaign.

Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
...Creepy Alzheimer's Joe.
As you might be aware, Trump implied that he was sexually attracted to his own daughter, but no, it's Joe that's the "creepy" one...............

Byker28i

59,855 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Down and out said:
Trump will not be president, nor will he get the nomination. What he is is gold for Hillary. Whoever does get the nomination will have Trump's words thrown back at him all through the GE campaign.
Sorry I don't understand this.
trump is the candidate, no one else is standing against him. Clinton isn't running, has nothing to do with this campaign cycle.

As much as the Dems ignored their best candidates to go with the safe pair of hands (who trump tried to get dirt on before he was even running), there's no one else willing to run against trump, so complete is his takeover of the GOP.

Carl_Manchester

12,198 posts

262 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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The Senate Judiciary Committee have voted in favour of the subpoena's listed earlier in the other thread.

The people are listed here:

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/release...

Trisha Anderson, Brian Auten, James Baker, William Barr, Dana Boente, Jennifer Boone, John Brennan, James Clapper, Kevin Clinesmith, James Comey, Patrick Conlon, Michael Dempsey, Stuart Evans, Tashina Gauhar, Carl Ghattas, Curtis Heide, Kathleen Kavalec, David Laufman, Stephen Laycock, Jacob Lew, Loretta Lynch, Andrew McCabe, Mary McCord, Denis McDonough, Arthur McGlynn, Jonathan Moffa, Sally Moyer, Mike Neufield, Sean Newell, Victoria Nuland, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Stephanie L. O’Sullivan, Lisa Page, Joseph Pientka, John Podesta, Samantha Power, E.W. “Bill” Priestap, Sarah Raskin, Steve Ricchetti, Susan Rice, Rod Rosenstein, Gabriel Sanz-Rexach, Nathan Sheets, Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall, Glenn Simpson, Steve Somma, Peter Strzok, Michael Sussman, Adam Szubin, Jonathan Winer, Christopher Wray, and Sally Yates.

I am sure Lisa Page will be delighted as it gives her something to wail about in her new job post at CNN.


pinchmeimdreamin

9,958 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Carl_Manchester said:
The Senate Judiciary Committee have voted in favour of the subpoena's listed earlier in the other thread.

The people are listed here:

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/release...

Trisha Anderson, Brian Auten, James Baker, William Barr, Dana Boente, Jennifer Boone, John Brennan, James Clapper, Kevin Clinesmith, James Comey, Patrick Conlon, Michael Dempsey, Stuart Evans, Tashina Gauhar, Carl Ghattas, Curtis Heide, Kathleen Kavalec, David Laufman, Stephen Laycock, Jacob Lew, Loretta Lynch, Andrew McCabe, Mary McCord, Denis McDonough, Arthur McGlynn, Jonathan Moffa, Sally Moyer, Mike Neufield, Sean Newell, Victoria Nuland, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Stephanie L. O’Sullivan, Lisa Page, Joseph Pientka, John Podesta, Samantha Power, E.W. “Bill” Priestap, Sarah Raskin, Steve Ricchetti, Susan Rice, Rod Rosenstein, Gabriel Sanz-Rexach, Nathan Sheets, Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall, Glenn Simpson, Steve Somma, Peter Strzok, Michael Sussman, Adam Szubin, Jonathan Winer, Christopher Wray, and Sally Yates.

I am sure Lisa Page will be delighted as it gives her something to wail about in her new job post at CNN.
It’s ok they’ll just ignore it

Budflicker

3,799 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Countdown said:
As you might be aware, Trump implied that he was sexually attracted to his own daughter, but no, it's Joe that's the "creepy" one...............
You're right and I cede to your superior debating skills.


laugh

Budflicker

3,799 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Byker28i said:
Budflicker said:
Please without mentioning Trump what are some of the policies and personal traits that make you think Joe Biden is such a good candidate for president?
Thats impossible in an election thread because it's decided between the two candidates and you need to make comparisons.

I could give a full and detailed answer, but I suggest that you wouldn't read it anyway.

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 11th June 17:03
So that's a no then to the question then, and yes I would of course read a full and detailed answer.

It's the left that don't like to debate different opinions remember.


Byker28i

59,855 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
Byker28i said:
Budflicker said:
Please without mentioning Trump what are some of the policies and personal traits that make you think Joe Biden is such a good candidate for president?
Thats impossible in an election thread because it's decided between the two candidates and you need to make comparisons.

I could give a full and detailed answer, but I suggest that you wouldn't read it anyway.

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 11th June 17:03
So that's a no then to the question then, and yes I would of course read a full and detailed answer.

It's the left that don't like to debate different opinions remember.
Why cut out all the answers given then?

Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
Countdown said:
As you might be aware, Trump implied that he was sexually attracted to his own daughter, but no, it's Joe that's the "creepy" one...............
You're right and I cede to your superior debating skills.

laugh
It wasn't really a debate , was it? Unless you were going to defend Trump's numerous perversions.....

Budflicker

3,799 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Because the question was to list Bidens quality's as a potential President without comparing to Trump.

I read the points you listed however and they really were not terribly convincing that he is the very best man for the job.

Byker28i

59,855 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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So tell us then what qualities in trump you find attractive, what successes do you think he's achieved that he should get another 4 years and where do you think the us will be if trump gets another term?

Then since you questioned my involvement without knowing anything about me, you could perhaps enlighten us what involvement you have with US politics.

Budflicker

3,799 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Countdown said:
It wasn't really a debate , was it? Unless you were going to defend Trump's numerous perversions.....
Well if that's the best reason that you have for supporting Biden then I rest my case.


I have been upfront and said from the start that Trumps a fecking idiot, the problem is they are both fking terrible candidates. What we should really be discussing is why we are constantly presented with a choice of two bad options, but no, all people want to do is watch CNN and promote anyone but Trump.


This approach won't solve issues in the long run.

But hey, you guys pick a sentence to quote and say something condescending or nitpicking.