Black Lives Matter - Who are they?

[ToastMan76]

Gadgetmac said:

He’d probably say “Jesus Christ you’re not still having to fight for equality 60 years on whilst continuing to be killed by the Police are you?!?! I’d have thought society would have got past that st by now”

The issue isnt with police killing black people, the true issue is with police brutality, lack of accountability, military weaponry, lack of training, Low bar entrance and a million and one factors. I recently watched the video of the Daniel Shaver murder by the police: I highly encourage you to watch it. It makes the George Floyd restraint seem practically friendly compared with that incident. America needs to take a good hard look at itself and address some very real issues.

Now that said, I do not suggest that racism is non-existant. I think its more than clear that theres racist elements across the whole of society of every creed, race or colour. I think the GF murder has been jumped on as an opportunity to press a black agenda far more than it was justified to, and those such as yourself are just using it as an excuse to push a narrow left wing agenda. The best way to promote true equality would be to look at society as a whole, with accountability on both sides. Lets not forget theres a huge culture problem across all of Western society with people wanting to live the ‘gangster’ life - and with black people who follow this way of life, they abuse those who strive to make themselves something different as ‘coconuts’, ‘race traitors’, ‘uncle Toms’. All this does is drive us further apart. I think Carlton from the Fresh Prince summed it up pretty well: “ Being Black isn't what I'm trying to be; it's what I am. I'm runnin' the same race and jumpin' the same hurdles you are, so why are you trippin' me up?”

Edited by ToastMan76 on Sunday 5th July 18:54

[Gadgetmac]

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Here’s a to your oh-so-predictable

Because, America matters so much and every cop shoots everyone they arrest.

Typical sensationalist BS. Oh. So. Predictable.

Only an idiot argues that Black people being killed by white police officers is “sensationalist” on the basis that they don’t shoot everyone.

Here, have a you seem to like them.

[768]

How many more black people than white do they shoot?

[Gadgetmac]

768 said:

How many more black people than white do they shoot?

They don’t just shoot them do they? All the instances I’m seeing lately don’t involve guns.

However...if it’s shooting stats you’re after...

“...Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.”

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-...

[ddom]

Gadgetmac said:

Only an idiot argues that Black people being killed by white police officers is “sensationalist” on the basis that they don’t shoot everyone.

Here, have a you seem to like them.

Only a moron wouldn't know about Justine Diamond. Only a wokey leftie would bang on about the US situation and never have lived there, only an idiot would try and spin US news into a debate about racism. And someone worse, to then propose this as a real argument as to what is going on in the UK.

[Noodle1982]

Gadgetmac said:

768 said:

How many more black people than white do they shoot?

They don’t just shoot them do they? All the instances I’m seeing lately don’t involve guns.

However...if it’s shooting stats you’re after...

“...Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.”

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-...

It's pointless having a stat that's based on per million as many of those won't have any dealings with the police.

What are the stats based on police encounters with whites and blacks?

I think you'll find per 1000 (or any other figure) of police encounters more whites get shot than blacks.

[Gadgetmac]

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Only an idiot argues that Black people being killed by white police officers is “sensationalist” on the basis that they don’t shoot everyone.

Here, have a you seem to like them.

Only a moron wouldn't know about Justine Diamond. Only a wokey leftie would bang on about the US situation and never have lived there, only an idiot would try and spin US news into a debate about racism. And someone worse, to then propose this as a real argument as to what is going on in the UK.

Who’s never lived there? Who’s conflating it with whats happening in the UK?

Have another one of these You’ve nearly got enough to buy yourself a clowns outfit now.

Only a far-right tool would try and pretend there’s no racial issues on either side of the Atlantic.

[ddom]

Noodle1982 said:

It's pointless having a stat that's based on per million as many of those won't have any dealings with the police.

What are the stats based on police encounters with whites and blacks?

I think you'll find per 1000 (or any other figure) of police encounters more whites get shot than blacks.

He's an idiot. This, and the gang crime in the US are absolutely the points to be addressed. It's so easy to spin this into a narrative that fits, but when you look at the bigger picture it debunks a lot of the sensationalist claims. The issue is, extremists, don't like to discuss things in a rational way.

[Gadgetmac]

Noodle1982 said:

Gadgetmac said:

768 said:

How many more black people than white do they shoot?

They don’t just shoot them do they? All the instances I’m seeing lately don’t involve guns.

However...if it’s shooting stats you’re after...

“...Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.”

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-...

It's pointless having a stat that's based on per million as many of those won't have any dealings with the police.

What are the stats based on police encounters with whites and blacks?

I think you'll find per 1000 (or any other figure) of police encounters more whites get shot than blacks.

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

[ddom]

Gadgetmac said:

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How long did you live in the US?

[Gadgetmac]

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How long did you live in the US?

Long enough and not far from where your beloved rebel emblem is being removed from the state flag.

[Leon R]

Gadgetmac said:

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How long did you live in the US?

Long enough and not far from where your beloved rebel emblem is being removed from the state flag.

Why so vague?

[Gadgetmac]

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How long did you live in the US?

Long enough and not far from where your beloved rebel emblem is being removed from the state flag.

Why so vague?

For the same reason that we all have user names and not our real names.

[Leon R]

Gadgetmac said:

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How long did you live in the US?

Long enough and not far from where your beloved rebel emblem is being removed from the state flag.

Why so vague?

For the same reason that we all have user names and not our real names.

What super secret information do you think people will learn from knowing where you used to live and for how long?

[Noodle1982]

Gadgetmac said:

Noodle1982 said:

Gadgetmac said:

768 said:

How many more black people than white do they shoot?

They don’t just shoot them do they? All the instances I’m seeing lately don’t involve guns.

However...if it’s shooting stats you’re after...

“...Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.”

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-...

It's pointless having a stat that's based on per million as many of those won't have any dealings with the police.

What are the stats based on police encounters with whites and blacks?

I think you'll find per 1000 (or any other figure) of police encounters more whites get shot than blacks.

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How many crimes are committed per million for both races?

[Gadgetmac]

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How long did you live in the US?

Long enough and not far from where your beloved rebel emblem is being removed from the state flag.

Why so vague?

For the same reason that we all have user names and not our real names.

What super secret information do you think people will learn from knowing where you used to live and for how long?

‘People’ don’t want to know where I lived, that’s just you.

[ddom]

Gadgetmac said:

Long enough and not far from where your beloved rebel emblem is being removed from the state flag.

My rebel Irish emblem, do tell....

[Leon R]

Gadgetmac said:

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How long did you live in the US?

Long enough and not far from where your beloved rebel emblem is being removed from the state flag.

Why so vague?

For the same reason that we all have user names and not our real names.

What super secret information do you think people will learn from knowing where you used to live and for how long?

‘People’ don’t want to know where I lived, that’s just you.

You avoid direct questions pretty well I will give you that.

[Gadgetmac]

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

Leon R said:

Gadgetmac said:

ddom said:

Gadgetmac said:

Don’t agree. Per million is perfectly valid. You’d also need to quantify “encounters” for a start.

How long did you live in the US?

Long enough and not far from where your beloved rebel emblem is being removed from the state flag.

Why so vague?

For the same reason that we all have user names and not our real names.

What super secret information do you think people will learn from knowing where you used to live and for how long?

‘People’ don’t want to know where I lived, that’s just you.

You avoid direct questions pretty well I will give you that.

And you ask somewhat personal questions (that have no bearing on the conversation) on an internet forum I will give you that.

[Dont Panic]

Gadgetmac said:

For the same reason that we all have user names and not our real names.

You dont mean? Youre someone else? Dundun duuuuuuuuuuun!