45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 9)

[Byker28i]

Oh and trump has claimed his niece Mary Trump is "not allowed" to write a book because he got her to sign a nondisclosure agreement. So big, so beautiful, a "very powerful one. ... It covers everything."

https://www.axios.com/mary-trump-niece-nondisclosu...

[Blackpuddin]

Important people in the Trump organisation MUST have known that the Tulsa event was going to tank horribly and yet they chose to go ahead with the debacle anyway. The apparatchiks in the WH must be setting new records for plausible deniability.

[Byker28i]

Blackpuddin said:

Important people in the Trump organisation MUST have known that the Tulsa event was going to tank horribly and yet they chose to go ahead with the debacle anyway. The apparatchiks in the WH must be setting new records for plausible deniability.

There's no clever people on trumps team - just yes men who won't tell him bad news, run adverts praising him on tv channels and at times he watches

[Blackpuddin]

Byker28i said:

Blackpuddin said:

Important people in the Trump organisation MUST have known that the Tulsa event was going to tank horribly and yet they chose to go ahead with the debacle anyway. The apparatchiks in the WH must be setting new records for plausible deniability.

There's no clever people on trumps team - just yes men who won't tell him bad news, run adverts praising him on tv channels and at times he watches

Sure, but how much extra thought would have been needed for someone to say 'look, it's going to bomb, let's cancel it now ahead of time and blame the TikTok lot'? Or claim they were cancelling for Covid reasons? There were plenty of ways they could have squirmed out of it with (to them, at least) some degree of credibility, but they just ploughed on with it. Might the GOP fixers be moving into damage limitation mode and pulling the last Jenga pieces out from under Trump to try and detach him from the party as his electability drains down the plughole?

[Byker28i]

Blackpuddin said:

Byker28i said:

Blackpuddin said:

Important people in the Trump organisation MUST have known that the Tulsa event was going to tank horribly and yet they chose to go ahead with the debacle anyway. The apparatchiks in the WH must be setting new records for plausible deniability.

There's no clever people on trumps team - just yes men who won't tell him bad news, run adverts praising him on tv channels and at times he watches

Sure, but how much extra thought would have been needed for someone to say 'look, it's going to bomb, let's cancel it now ahead of time and blame the TikTok lot'? Or claim they were cancelling for Covid reasons? There were plenty of ways they could have squirmed out of it with (to them, at least) some degree of credibility, but they just ploughed on with it. Might the GOP fixers be moving into damage limitation mode and pulling the last Jenga pieces out from under Trump to try and detach him from the party as his electability drains down the plughole?

Because it was only 19,000 capacity, so in their wildest dreams with 1m bogus registrations they still thought they'd fill it. They just couldn't see they wouldn't, because everyone was telling trump the positive figures, because they are scared to give him bad news. Remember they gave away the tickets to get people there, surely they'd have enough people.

I'm sure there was a conversation about stopping it but trump was so keen, had deliberately picked the venue to send a message to his base, had talked it up all week, how it was going to be the biggest ever. trump was the one who announced the date change without telling his team... Would you be that person to tell trump it was off because they couldn't be sure of numbers... Better to assume it would all be fine.... Plus Pascale is safe for the moment as he's funneling campaign money to trumps sons.

trump picks too small venues all the time so he can claim there's a huge crowd outside who couldn't get in, it's good for the optics of people desperate to see him, only this time it massively backfired.

[Countdown]

Byker28i said:

Oh and trump has claimed his niece Mary Trump is "not allowed" to write a book because he got her to sign a nondisclosure agreement. So big, so beautiful, a "very powerful one. ... It covers everything."

https://www.axios.com/mary-trump-niece-nondisclosu...

Am I some kind of politically savvy genius or would it not make far far more sense for him to ignore his niece's book?

Surely complaining about it is just free advertising for the book?

[durbster]

Byker28i said:

Blackpuddin said:

Important people in the Trump organisation MUST have known that the Tulsa event was going to tank horribly and yet they chose to go ahead with the debacle anyway. The apparatchiks in the WH must be setting new records for plausible deniability.

There's no clever people on trumps team - just yes men who won't tell him bad news, run adverts praising him on tv channels and at times he watches

I did think he was going to win another term but hadn't really considered this point.

He's so toxic that the team that scraped victory in 2016 have largely abandoned him, and the only people left to run his 2020 campaign are his family members and sycophants. He had some awful people working on his campaign back then but they clearly knew how to play the game.

It was pretty obvious the rallies were the only bit of the job he enjoyed. Tulsa must have cut deep.

[Escapegoat]

Hard to see where Trump gets any wins in the immediate future.

Can't help feeling that the current DOW/etc levels are optimistic too. So if he's hoping for good numbers to play a part, he may be out of luck.

[paulguitar]

This Lincoln Project video is funny:


https://twitter.com/i/status/1275042854537134080

[mikal83]

Blackpuddin said:

Important people in the Trump organisation MUST have known that the Tulsa event was going to tank horribly and yet they chose to go ahead with the debacle anyway. The apparatchiks in the WH must be setting new records for plausible STUPIDITY.

FTFY

[kowalski655]

durbster said:

.........It was pretty obvious the rallies were the only bit of the job he enjoyed. Tulsa must have cut deep.

He's reported to have thrown a hissy fit when he got backstage.
And now claims he was joking about slowing down testing! Not the thing to joke about! He is no comedian, imagine what George Carlin or Bill Hicks would be saying about Trump

[Byker28i]

unrepentant said:

mx5nut said:

ajprice said:

He's usually projecting when he makes these kinds of accusations.

Like last time around, expect all evidence of actual voting fraud to be by his own voters.

He's just trying to wind up his moronic base. Everyone with a brain knows that each ballot has a unique code that must be matched to the individual voter registration. But Cleetus and Jim Bob will be lapping it up. "They took errr Jerbs, now they want errrr votes".

Kentucky is shutting 95% of polling stations. Talk about voting restrictions
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...

[Byker28i]

kowalski655 said:

durbster said:

.........It was pretty obvious the rallies were the only bit of the job he enjoyed. Tulsa must have cut deep.

He's reported to have thrown a hissy fit when he got backstage.
And now claims he was joking about slowing down testing! Not the thing to joke about! He is no comedian, imagine what George Carlin or Bill Hicks would be saying about Trump

He wasn't joking when he refused to answer about it when interviewed today, plus we know he's sitting on 14bn congress has signed off for testing, but trump won't release.

Testing shows more people are infected, which is bad for trump, that's all he cares about

[Countdown]

kowalski655 said:

He's reported to have thrown a hissy fit when he got backstage.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/trump-throws-pre-rally-tantrum-backstage-because-no-one-came-to-his-party

I know that there are many, many issues and deep-seated divsions in US society but what on earth made 46% of the population think that ^^^ guy was the best choice for fixing them?

Conversely, if you absolutely hated the US, and wanted it to sink into a pit of anarchy and despair, which of the 2016 candidates (on both sides) would you have chosen over and above Trump?

[VFX_Artist]

https://mobile.twitter.com/tedlieu/status/12748022...

Ted Lieu's campaign video. Short and succinct, gets its point across very well.

[Byker28i]

Kentucky are blaming CV-19 to shut down polling stations so McConnel can't be voted against, cutting them to only200 from over 3500.

Jefferson county has one polling station for 610,000 voters, a majority black area.

[kowalski655]

But that's NOT voter suppression,nosireebob
ETA Just seen there is extensive early voting available,and postal votes for everyone,so maybe not that bad

Edited by kowalski655 on Monday 22 June 20:19

[Derek Smith]

Byker28i said:

Kentucky are blaming CV-19 to shut down polling stations so McConnel can't be voted against, cutting them to only200 from over 3500.

Jefferson county has one polling station for 610,000 voters, a majority black area.

Does anybody else remember the furore surrounding Mugabe's running of elections in Zimbabwe a few years ago?

It's terrifying the level to which the USA has plummeted in a few short years. It makes one wonder whether the same sort of abuse the system could occur here.

Edited to correct a problem with my voice recognition software that required a restart. It's been throwing a wobbly since the Win10 update. Who'd have thought.

Edited by Derek Smith on Monday 22 June 20:37

[stevesingo]

Byker28i said:

Kentucky are blaming CV-19 to shut down polling stations so McConnel can't be voted against, cutting them to only200 from over 3500.

Jefferson county has one polling station for 610,000 voters, a majority black area.

The folks from Jefferson County should organise themselves. Form an orderly queue, get through the station as quickly as possible, organise an exit poll (and entry poll) and when the polling closes count the number in the line and social media the fk out of McConnel, showing him for what he is.

They may not count enough votes, but hey will make a point.

[kowalski655]

The 1 voting station is apparently a huge convention centre with loads of spots to vote