45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 9)

[Byker28i]

[Byker28i]

President Trump's chief of staff declares, under oath, that the president didn't actually mean the things he said about having declassified a bunch of Russia investigation documents. He has not ordered that additional documents be disclosed.


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!
1:41 AM · Oct 7, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313640...

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
All Russia Hoax Scandal information was Declassified by me long ago. Unfortunately for our Country, people have acted very slowly, especially since it is perhaps the biggest political crime in the history of our Country. Act!!!
2:21 AM · Oct 7, 2020·Twitter for iPhone


MEADOWS ON 20 Oct : "The president indicated to me that his statements on Twitter...do not require the declassification or release of any particular documents.”

So lying again?

Edit: Remember even the Republican-controlled Senate Select Committee on Intelligence says the FBI was right and the Trump campaign was sending data to an active Russian intel operative as stated in the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (released Aug 18, 2020):
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/...

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 20th October 17:53

[Byker28i]

Refreshing message from both candidates in Utah

Spencer Cox
@SpencerJCox
I’m not sure this has ever been done before...but as our national political dialogue continues to decline, my opponent @PetersonUtah
and I decided to try something different. We can disagree without hating each other. Let’s make Utah an example to the nation. #StandUnited #utpol

https://twitter.com/i/status/1318537411471708162

[Byker28i]

Melania Trump will no longer accompany her husband to PA tonight, per her spokeswoman: "Mrs. Trump continues to feel better every day following her recovery from COVID-19, but with a lingering cough, and out of an abundance of caution, she will not be traveling today."

This was going to be @FLOTUS' first campaign rally in 16 months (!) She hasn't attended one since 6/19. Mrs. Trump, in contrast to her predecessors, hasn't spent much time on the re-elect effort this cycle, mostly due to COVID. Now, her own diagnosis is keeping her off trail.
https://twitter.com/albamonica/status/131859631942...

That diagnosis being there isn't enough money/IOU's in the world..

[jeff666]

Seanrof said:

What are all you guys gonna do when Trump wins ?

Laugh,

On the other hand Byker will be in for a lot of overtime.

[Eric Mc]

I am worried about Byker if Trump loses. How will he fill his time?

[paulguitar]

Eric Mc said:

I am worried about Byker if Trump loses. How will he fill his time?

Celebrating.

[Trophy Husband]

Eric Mc said:

I am worried about Byker if Trump loses. How will he fill his time?

Just like Trump he'll have another four years?
Not criticising, as Byker's posts have done a lot to educate me on the st show that is US politics. I'd hate to lose that access to knowledge but I'd rather he could retire knowing he'd done a good job!

[JuniorD]

Byker28i said:

Refreshing message from both candidates in Utah

Spencer Cox
@SpencerJCox
I’m not sure this has ever been done before...but as our national political dialogue continues to decline, my opponent @PetersonUtah
and I decided to try something different. We can disagree without hating each other. Let’s make Utah an example to the nation. #StandUnited #utpol

https://twitter.com/i/status/1318537411471708162

“Get a room you two!”

[TTmonkey]

Eric Mc said:

I am worried about Byker if Trump loses. How will he fill his time?

I’m guessing he will be called as an expert witness for the prosecution.....

[stevesingo]

BlackTails said:

Take it on the chin and not whine like a baby about a rigged election and "MSM" being horribly biased.

BlackTails said:

What are you going to do if Biden wins?

See above

Edited by stevesingo on Tuesday 20th October 19:54

[Derek Smith]

Trophy Husband said:

Just like Trump he'll have another four years?
Not criticising, as Byker's posts have done a lot to educate me on the st show that is US politics. I'd hate to lose that access to knowledge but I'd rather he could retire knowing he'd done a good job!

If Biden does win - and it seems bizarre in the extreme that Trump will get another 4 years - I think Byker'll get drunk on all the offers of beers from those, like me, who've leeched off his posts for months and have contributed nothing. I’m teetotal so excuse myself, but he can have a cup of tea on me.

I would have been floundering had it not been for the clear cut posts, the links and comment. There have been others, naturally, but Byker’s kept it all together.

I’ve looked for positives in Trump’s term. As some on Twitter have said, he’s delivered on his promises: the wall paid for by the Mexicans – which of us thought he’d deliver on that, and the strong economy – production might be down, unemployment might be up, but on some of the other markers, he’s there or thereabouts, and then there’s the tax cuts, especially for the rich – good one there, Donald, not to mention the Paris Climate Accord – it’s a hoax he tells us, so that’s all right, and replacing Obamacare – that went well, although I missed the fine details, then upping spending on the forces, although pulling them back to the US – just as well he did given the demand for riot police, not to mention walking to church, torture – that’s not the torture of having him as president but waterboarding – is it over now? And Hilary Clinton is still free, a criminal, according to him, free to walk around, just like him.

So some positives there: tax cuts but spending a lot more. That’ll help the national debt, which he promised to reduce.

I've been called a lefty on here, even, just the once, a socialist but, surprise, surprise, that's not why I am anti-Trump. If you have to ask, I can't be bothered to answer.

[McGee_22]

Byker has frequently had to re-state that he started this thread out of simple curiosity of what having Donald Trump in the White House would do and mean for firstly America, and secondly for the rest of the World.

I happen to agree with him that Trump as President has bought hitherto unprecedented challenges to American Politics and its system of Democracy and Governance. The way that Trump has (has always) operated has bought a singular focus on the weeknesses within the levels of Government, the checks and balances which before now Americans had always extolled with such veracity, and last but by no means least, the way the American Judicial system is open to such blatent and obvious easy influence by money, politics and internal corruption - in short, all the things the it should have nothing to do with.

Lastly and most recently the shocking way that gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement is so widespread as to not in a tongue in cheek way question whether American Presidential Elections are free and fair elections...

Whether Byker continues with this or another thread on another President is up to him but I happen to believe that should Trump not win the November Election there could also be some, once again, hitherto unprecedented manouverves by Trump before he should leave the Oval Office in January.

Should Trump win there will I suspect be increased leverage of the Judicial system and levers of Government to ensure he might never face a trial, even if he, as he boasted, shot a man in broad daylight in the middle of a street.

I also believe that Trumps undoubtedly successful policy of divide and conquer has bought such high levels of civil unrest and exposure of racial inequalities that America is now uncomfortably closer than it has ever been to another civil war - should Trump decide to challenge the Election result and in any way refuse to leave the White House there will be significant developments that will be very unpleasant.

[Countdown]

Derek Smith said:

If Biden does win - and it seems bizarre in the extreme that Trump will get another 4 years - I think Byker'll get drunk on all the offers of beers from those, like me, who've leeched off his posts for months and have contributed nothing. I’m teetotal so excuse myself, but he can have a cup of tea on me.

Agreed

Derek Smith said:

I’ve looked for positives in Trump’s term. As some on Twitter have said, he’s delivered on his promises: the wall paid for by the Mexicans – which of us thought he’d deliver on that, and the strong economy – production might be down, unemployment might be up, but on some of the other markers, he’s there or thereabouts, and then there’s the tax cuts, especially for the rich – good one there, Donald, not to mention the Paris Climate Accord – it’s a hoax he tells us, so that’s all right, and replacing Obamacare – that went well, although I missed the fine details, then upping spending on the forces, although pulling them back to the US – just as well he did given the demand for riot police, not to mention walking to church, torture – that’s not the torture of having him as president but waterboarding – is it over now? And Hilary Clinton is still free, a criminal, according to him, free to walk around, just like him.

So some positives there: tax cuts but spending a lot more. That’ll help the national debt, which he promised to reduce.

I've been called a lefty on here, even, just the once, a socialist but, surprise, surprise, that's not why I am anti-Trump. If you have to ask, I can't be bothered to answer.

Good summary.

[Grrbang]

McGee_22 said:

I also believe that Trumps undoubtedly successful policy of divide and conquer has bought such high levels of civil unrest and exposure of racial inequalities that America is now uncomfortably closer than it has ever been to another civil war - should Trump decide to challenge the Election result and in any way refuse to leave the White House there will be significant developments that will be very unpleasant.

After learning about how the electoral college system works, I started wondering about the possibility of Biden winning the popular vote but Trump taking the election, like in 2016 against Hilary. I can't even begin to imagine what the civil unrest would be like.

[Centurion07]

KR158 said:

It's absolutely horrifying how one imbecillic, ignorant, deeply unintelligent, lunatic, compulsive Bull*****er can drag an entire nation down to a laughing stock, then into pity before crashing into the Gutter & keep on digging.
Even more mortifying is that in the midst of the current economic & health disaster People still support a blatantly, crushingly incompetent, incapable, self serving sociopath.

I like the cut of your jib, sir.

Without reading the username I can always tell who wrote the post as it mirrors my own thoughts on the Orange stgibbon.

I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone, that's how bizarre I find it that he isn't already in prison let alone still in the running for re-election!

[anonymous-user]

Grrbang said:

After learning about how the electoral college system works, I started wondering about the possibility of Biden winning the popular vote but Trump taking the election, like in 2016 against Hilary. I can't even begin to imagine what the civil unrest would be like.

Same as the last time.

Their system is not so different to the UK, where we vote in constituencies, the popular vote winner means jack st.

[Electro1980]

jsf said:

Grrbang said:

After learning about how the electoral college system works, I started wondering about the possibility of Biden winning the popular vote but Trump taking the election, like in 2016 against Hilary. I can't even begin to imagine what the civil unrest would be like.

Same as the last time.

Their system is not so different to the UK, where we vote in constituencies, the popular vote winner means jack st.

It’s actually quite different, and far more frightening. Firstly, the U.K. is not winner takes all. It’s truly bizarre that the US has this system for a single post. I can see the positives and negatives of the U.K. system, where we are voting for a single representative for a few tens of thousands but the US system is insane. Secondly in the U.K. we have some attempt to mean people’s votes are of equal value. In the US the votes of people in the most rural states is worth something like 30 times the power of someone living in LA.

[anonymous-user]

Electro1980 said:

It’s actually quite different, and far more frightening. Firstly, the U.K. is not winner takes all. It’s truly bizarre that the US has this system for a single post. I can see the positives and negatives of the U.K. system, where we are voting for a single representative for a few tens of thousands but the US system is insane. Secondly in the U.K. we have some attempt to mean people’s votes are of equal value. In the US the votes of people in the most rural states is worth something like 30 times the power of someone living in LA.

Well, firstly we don't have a President, we don't get to vote for our head of state. We do use a winner takes all policy via constituency to elect MP's.

Secondly, our system is skewed by constituency population size and is not as equal as you make out, the smallest has 21,200, the largest 109,900. The way our system works the skew is very much city biased, with far more MP's from the cities than the rest of the country.

Both systems have their issues if you are looking for the popular vote to win power. The only time you can say we have a one man one vote result has been via the Referendum, and the losers hated that one.

[B'stard Child]

jsf said:

The only time you can say we have a one man one vote result has been via the Referendum, and the losers hated that one.

A little unfair - most on the losing side shrugged their shoulders and said OK lets leave and don’t have this thing drag on

Maybe 10% max got their panties in a real fking twist but found a haven in PH to constantly bleat on about how they were so right and everyone who voted the other way are thick s who didn’t know what they were voting for

It’s been delicious