45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 9)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 9)

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Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Byker28i said:
The President later accused Stahl of not wearing a mask and tweeted out a brief clip of her without one while at the White House.
I thought he was immune...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Tom Logan

3,219 posts

125 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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minimoog said:
Adolf would have been so proud.

ScotHill

3,157 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I'd just like to point out that 60 Minutes is a magazine-style compilation news programme, it's not actually a 60 minute interview.

captain_cynic

12,008 posts

95 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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vonuber said:
The obsession with Hilary Clinton is really bizarre.
It's really quite obvious. They can't be positive about Trump so they need to bring the argument down to Trump's level so they can claim the other side is as bad.

Let's ignore that the Hillary Clinton investigation was dropped twice as there was no evidence of wrongdoing. It wasn't even worth bringing to court.

It's less bizarre and more sad.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Don’t forget the 10 republican led investigations into Benghazi, all of which failed to find any wrong doing.

Byker28i

59,871 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Sam.M said:
Don’t forget the 10 republican led investigations into Benghazi, all of which failed to find any wrong doing.
Much like the many republican led investigations that found no wrong doing by Biden, no wrong doing by Clinton, yet found numerous times that the trump campaign colluded with the russians.

captain_cynic

12,008 posts

95 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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ScotHill said:
I'd just like to point out that 60 Minutes is a magazine-style compilation news programme, it's not actually a 60 minute interview.
Of course they do make single issue episodes which this would be one of.

Although 60 Minutes is really 60 minutes minus ads, actual recording will be far longer than 60 minutes with a lot of it ending up on the cutting room floor. Of that 45 mins Trump recorded a significant percentage would be awkward silences, throat clearing, exchanges of pleasantries, taking sips of water and other things like that.

So even not counting questions that would be discarded, they would be lucky to have 30 mins of usable footage and that is assuming they were recording for the full 45 mins, the cameras are off whilst the sound guy fixes, checks and adjust the microphones and the lighting guy does his work.

Byker28i

59,871 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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kayc said:
ou got to be kidding..there isnt one media outlet from CNN/CNBC to Washington Post/New York Times (apart from Fox)that ever says anything positive to say about anything he has done in his presidency ..hence the 'fake news' line from day one..he already knew how their reporting would be biased.
Oh contrare, there's just been news reported, if trump didn't do those things...


I posted this a week ago.... all taken from the media


Byker28i said:
From the top of my head, if you look at what can be claimed as trump sucesses then:

Packing the courts - so far two Supreme Court justices and 205 judges overall to the federal bench all for lifetime appointments.

Space Force - taking mostly from what the air force did, but merging all bits from the other services into one

Corporation windfall tax - slashing tax bills from 35 to 21%, good for the companies but bad for debt

Claims he defeated Isis, but really the military carried on with the mission that was already successful. Whilst not defeated it's been significantly reduced during trumps presidency.

Banning bumpstocks



But thats all offset with a deeply fractured society driven by trump, protests, BLM, the worse it's been for a long time. trump has enabled the white supremacists, promoted divisions "LIBERATE", "Stand back and stand by", "good people on both sides" etc

US influence and global image is at an all time low. trump has been open laughed at by other leaders, the US isn't trusted

Failure on all foreign policy. North Korea, China, Iran, Syria, Afgahnistan, the Taliban supporting his reelection. Tarrifs that impacted US farmers and manufacturers whilst US consumers paid.

Robbing the US military family programmes to pay for his wall, what he saw as his monument to his presidency

Immigration policy and family separations, without caring or recording where those children are

A lack of any infrastructure improvements despite many infrastructure weeks

A lack of any health plan, despite promising one many times

A lack of any real plan to deal with CV-19, the denials, delays and indifference, 220,000 dead, huge unemployment (more than 63m now claimed unemployment payments this year - thats more than voted for him). At the same time refusing to promote any social responsibility of mask wearing, social distancing, fighting against governors attempt to control through lockdown.

The US is now facing one of the worst economic crises in its history under Trump, which is because of his disastrous response to CV-19. Unemployment rate at 7.9% currently having started to come down. The US national debt is at the highest levels since World War II



Have I missed anything?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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More unemployed than voted for him.

That’s damning.

Byker28i

59,871 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Sam.M said:
More unemployed than voted for him.

That’s damning.
More claimed unemployment payments.. not unemployed.
add that to the report yesterday that 8m more of the US are now in poverty

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Even worse.

What a mess.

Countdown

39,899 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Tom Logan said:
minimoog said:
Adolf would have been so proud.
...and actually that will encourage the 41% of Trump voters

arfursleep

818 posts

104 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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kayc said:
nteresting take on that..has any other President in history ever been under attack from the opposition and the media from day one of taking office?..its a bit like Brexit for the so-called liberal thinkers it wasnt supposed to happen..the little people voted the wrong way and upset the gravy train..personally i think Trump gets a landslide win but it wont matter who wins as neither side will accept the defeat.U.S politics is finished..UK too probably.
Throughout his administration, literally from day one and before, he's been caught lying about policy, people, acts and actions so are the media and opposition not supposed to question or challenge?

Same with Brexit, it was known prior to the vote that statements made by the leave organisations were untrue, unprovable and likely misleading so the opposition parties are valid to question / challenge.

If Trump wins, there will certainly be complaints from opposition about the validity of the result (already happening now as people are having to queue 11hrs to vote in some locations due to lack of facilities, voter registration purges, voter registration system failures etc.).

If Trump loses there will certainly be violence from opposition about the validity of the result (already happening with threats from right wing militia / individuals).

arfursleep

818 posts

104 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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captain_cynic said:
ScotHill said:
I'd just like to point out that 60 Minutes is a magazine-style compilation news programme, it's not actually a 60 minute interview.
Of course they do make single issue episodes which this would be one of.

Although 60 Minutes is really 60 minutes minus ads, actual recording will be far longer than 60 minutes with a lot of it ending up on the cutting room floor. Of that 45 mins Trump recorded a significant percentage would be awkward silences, throat clearing, exchanges of pleasantries, taking sips of water and other things like that.

So even not counting questions that would be discarded, they would be lucky to have 30 mins of usable footage and that is assuming they were recording for the full 45 mins, the cameras are off whilst the sound guy fixes, checks and adjust the microphones and the lighting guy does his work.
from my little experience of working in TV a while ago, the cameras are usually recording a few mins before the interview actually starts (to check lighting, sounds etc) so I hope they release everything they recorded unedited with timecode stamps included

Byker28i

59,871 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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arfursleep said:
kayc said:
nteresting take on that..has any other President in history ever been under attack from the opposition and the media from day one of taking office?..its a bit like Brexit for the so-called liberal thinkers it wasnt supposed to happen..the little people voted the wrong way and upset the gravy train..personally i think Trump gets a landslide win but it wont matter who wins as neither side will accept the defeat.U.S politics is finished..UK too probably.
Throughout his administration, literally from day one and before, he's been caught lying about policy, people, acts and actions so are the media and opposition not supposed to question or challenge?

Same with Brexit, it was known prior to the vote that statements made by the leave organisations were untrue, unprovable and likely misleading so the opposition parties are valid to question / challenge.

If Trump wins, there will certainly be complaints from opposition about the validity of the result (already happening now as people are having to queue 11hrs to vote in some locations due to lack of facilities, voter registration purges, voter registration system failures etc.).

If Trump loses there will certainly be violence from opposition about the validity of the result (already happening with threats from right wing militia / individuals).
4 years and the US really is screwed, all sorts of fractures opened and encouraged. It'll take years for this to recover.

stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Countdown said:
Tom Logan said:
minimoog said:
Adolf would have been so proud.
...and actually that will encourage the 41% of Trump voters
Not a single native american in sight, migrants and descendants of migrants, at least Adolf was working from home.

paua

5,734 posts

143 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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stitched said:
Countdown said:
Tom Logan said:
minimoog said:
Adolf would have been so proud.
...and actually that will encourage the 41% of Trump voters
Not a single native american in sight, migrants and descendants of migrants, at least Adolf was working from home.
Pedantry Alert - the angry litle man with the stupid facial hair was AUSTRIAN, not German.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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paua said:
Pedantry Alert - the angry litle man with the stupid facial hair was AUSTRIAN, not German.
Indeed.

Trump's family is German though, notables including Freidrich, Donald's grandfather, a man banished from Bavaria for, wait for it... refusing military service.


Wrathalanche

696 posts

140 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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arfursleep said:
captain_cynic said:
ScotHill said:
I'd just like to point out that 60 Minutes is a magazine-style compilation news programme, it's not actually a 60 minute interview.
Of course they do make single issue episodes which this would be one of.

Although 60 Minutes is really 60 minutes minus ads, actual recording will be far longer than 60 minutes with a lot of it ending up on the cutting room floor. Of that 45 mins Trump recorded a significant percentage would be awkward silences, throat clearing, exchanges of pleasantries, taking sips of water and other things like that.

So even not counting questions that would be discarded, they would be lucky to have 30 mins of usable footage and that is assuming they were recording for the full 45 mins, the cameras are off whilst the sound guy fixes, checks and adjust the microphones and the lighting guy does his work.
from my little experience of working in TV a while ago, the cameras are usually recording a few mins before the interview actually starts (to check lighting, sounds etc) so I hope they release everything they recorded unedited with timecode stamps included
I don't think its the fact that he didn't record for 60 minutes that is the talking point - its that no matter how long they intended or agreed to film, Trump has reportedly thrown a huff and left the interview prematurely and no one knows why yet. He was also supposed to return for another interview alongside Mike Pence and decided not to show up. The footage of him heading back to/from the helicopter immediately afterwards shows him with a very miserable demeanor like when he came back from his fated Tulsa rally. No one was even talking about it until he suddenly threatened to post up the footage before it airs (on Sunday night), which suggests there's something bad he wants to get out in front of.

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/131869188793...

Going by some of the tonal shift of his most recent rallies (talking about losing, bit more casual swearing, looser lips etc) my prediction is he's had a full on tantrum, possibly sworn at the interviewer or about someone in the Biden camp, and has marched off impetuously, and it LOOKING impetuous too. Pride has stopped him going back to smooth things over. He looks pissed off and upset in the later walking shot because its in his head that he's messed that up for himself and the optics are really bad going into the last week of campaigning. He's trying to win suburban women votes, and here he is being interviewed by a woman and it not going well.

Cherry on top would be if he trips up and falls on his ass while trying to storm off :P


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