CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 3)

CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 3)

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isaldiri

18,611 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Good link. Love the people in the comments going into meldown.... "lockdown should be lockup", and "wave two is imminent"....
Gotta be the lack of toilets then clearly. That number of people having a crap or piss into the sea would deservedly be an emergency! biggrin

tedman

368 posts

105 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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As a Poole resident myself and Coronavirus aside, I cannot understand why anyone would want to go to a horribly overcrowded beach anyway.

It's effing hot, there isn't much shade, everything is expensive and there are no toilets.

Top tip: go in the evening when it's cooled down and the crowds have gone. Much nicer.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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grumbledoak

31,551 posts

234 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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RTB said:
In terms of maintaining immunity, it depends on the pathogen and how it interacts with the immune system. We don't need to be constantly exposed to chickenpox for example to remain immune.
confused You are, constantly exposed I mean. From the first time you get it. For life. It can flare up if you get weak, but you had it all along.

n3il123

2,608 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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isaldiri

18,611 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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ant1973

5,693 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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This is going to be spun as the approaching end of the world...

We have gone from 1:2000 prevalence to 1:1000 on a weighted basis.....

In the real world, cases have risen from 11:22,523 to 14:24,256

However, for new infections, they have fallen from 10 to 8 in the two consecutive fortnightly periods.

I may have to self isolate from the media for a while...

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...

EddieSteadyGo

11,998 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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ant1973 said:
This is going to be spun as the approaching end of the world...

We have gone from 1:2000 prevalence to 1:1000 on a weighted basis.....

In the real world, cases have risen from 11:22,523 to 14:24,256

However, for new infections, they have fallen from 10 to 8 in the two consecutive fortnightly periods.

I may have to self isolate from the media for a while...

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...
The confidence bars for the last two time periods are overlapping, so statistically they should be considered as pretty much the same.


ant1973

5,693 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Have a good read at the Mail or Guardian tonight - you won't have long to wait. Don't you understand there has been an increase of almost 33%. IN JUST TWO WEEKS. PROTESTS, BEACHES. LOCK ME DOWN NOW!!!

ant1973

5,693 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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I think identifying any news outlet as a reliable barometer of anything may be a little ambitious!

croyde

22,974 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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isaldiri said:
ant1973 said:
Is it wrong to find this funny. I would like to know what constitutes a minor incident...

BREAKING: 'Major incident' declared as thousands flock to beaches

A major incident has been declared by Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council after thousands of people defied the advice to stay away and descended on its beaches on the hottest day of the year so far.
To be honest, the pictures on the TV per helicopter show a lot of people but they are mostly in their groups and semi distanced from each other. They aren't say having a mass public orgy exchanging bodily fluids.... It's a bit strange why the council felt the need to freak out and declare 'a major incident requiring emergency response'. Well perhaps with toilets closed that has caused a proper emergency given the number of people....that I could understand I suppose. scratchchin
Honestly, when I saw the headline I thought some feker had run around with a knife or a petrol tanker had blown up.

Jeez.

TameRacingDriver

18,097 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Just seen on Facebook big brawl on Tynemouth beach near Newcastle. Agree with the others, I can't see the appeal. I would rather smear my balls with honey and stick them in a bees hive than hang around a bunch of chavs that can't hold their drink on an overcrowded beach.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

162 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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dreamcracker

3,218 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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croyde

22,974 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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TameRacingDriver said:
Just seen on Facebook big brawl on Tynemouth beach near Newcastle. Agree with the others, I can't see the appeal. I would rather smear my balls with honey and stick them in a bees hive than hang around a bunch of chavs that can't hold their drink on an overcrowded beach.
Genuine lol hehe

RTB

8,273 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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xjay1337 said:
WHO claims it's worried of a resurgence based on increase CASES.
I guess they are ignoring the fact most countries have increased testing significantly. So I'd be wanting to see a weekly average of DEATHS based on a 1 or 2 week rolling average.

Even with an increase in testing I suspect most of those who are likely to die if infected have already died, so while infections may continue to rise I suspect deaths will stay around about where they are.

BBC comments section full of middle aged people bemoaning those at the beach. The littering, I can agree with them on. Simply being there - not so much.

They'd soon moan when their town dies a slow death over Summer - come winter time most of the smaller "seasonal" businesses, cafes, ice cream parlours and restaurants will be boarded up.
I still don't understand why they don't present the case numbers normalised against testing numbers. Then again I supose that doesn't give a great indication either as the criteria for testing has changed...


RTB

8,273 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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grumbledoak said:
confused You are, constantly exposed I mean. From the first time you get it. For life. It can flare up if you get weak, but you had it all along.
The varicella virus becomes inactive in the body and avoids the immune system by residing in immune-privileged neuronal tissue (dorsal root ganglia in this case). The immune system doesn't see the latent infection and doesn't produce any immune response to the ongoing latent infection unless it begins to replicate inside those sensory neurons.

sim72

4,945 posts

135 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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sim72

4,945 posts

135 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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The non-COVID death rate has been below the 5-year average for the last five weeks.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

108 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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