Will you send your kids back to school?

Will you send your kids back to school?

Poll: Will you send your kids back to school?

Total Members Polled: 182

Yes, definitely: 79%
Yes, probably: 5%
Don't know: 5%
Probably not: 1%
Definitely not: 9%
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Zoobeef

6,004 posts

158 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Those that aren't sending them back, given the risk the them is tiny (I.e. no more than normal day to day life), whose health are you saving by using them this way and damaging their education? Your own? A little selfish....

Douglas Quaid

2,283 posts

85 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Mine are back in. Hope the ‘definitely not’ brigade get huge fines. I pity their kids.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Kids get far more out of school than just maths and English. All of them need to go back as soon as possible.

CubanPete

3,630 posts

188 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Nearly 3 year old went back to nursery on the 1st.

She needed the stimulation and I needed a break (she is an insomniac Daddy's girl).

It is a small nursery and we read around the risks, children are very low risk, and likelihood of catching, and spreading it.

My only sadness is this adds to not being able to see my parents, who I haven't seen since Christmas and miss a lot.

GlenMH

5,212 posts

243 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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survivalist said:
5 year old has been back since the beginning of June and 2 year old has been back in nursery for the last 2 weeks. They are both much happier interacting with a range of humans rather than just a bubble of friends and family.
This.

Both have mine (6 and 8 yo) have been transformed by having 2 days/week at school. Happier at home, happier to do school work at home and more willing to engage with doing physical exercise.

The eldest openly admitted that she was properly bored before she went back.

Zarco

17,845 posts

209 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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CubanPete said:
My only sadness is this adds to not being able to see my parents, who I haven't seen since Christmas and miss a lot.
Can you not visit them and maintain distance?

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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DoubleD said:
Kids get far more out of school than just maths and English. All of them need to go back as soon as possible.
I know that. It was merely an observation re my own boy. He and his brother are best pals (13 months between them) and they're always together in down time at school. I just think that this time has been great for them and for us as a family despite the difficulties. I run my own business, construction, with 15 staff. I'm the one with the problems re time but I'll never have such a wonderful Spring/Summer with my kids ever again.
We do live in the woods in a very rural area so I can only speak for myself.
If I lived in a town or city surrounded by tarmac and pavement I may think differently.


sim72

4,945 posts

134 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Whilst we want to see all of our kids back in September (and all the communications with home this week have stressed this), we are of course aware of the concerns of many of them, especially given the fact that many of our kids live in extended family situations, due to the demographic of our catchment area.

Though we are planning to enable all 1,200 to return based on the Government's guidelines, we are of course aware that they may change once or multiple times between now and September (the guidance to primary schools before re-opening on June 1 changed nineteen times in a month), and of course we know that the situation re COVID may be much better or much worse by then, so it's all very much a case of planning for every eventuality.


Zarco

17,845 posts

209 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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My daughter went back to nursery 3 days a week last week. She will be starting school in September and we were very pleased to get confirmation the school will be starting up as normal for the new infants.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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sim72 said:
Whilst we want to see all of our kids back in September (and all the communications with home this week have stressed this), we are of course aware of the concerns of many of them, especially given the fact that many of our kids live in extended family situations, due to the demographic of our catchment area.

Though we are planning to enable all 1,200 to return based on the Government's guidelines, we are of course aware that they may change once or multiple times between now and September (the guidance to primary schools before re-opening on June 1 changed nineteen times in a month), and of course we know that the situation re COVID may be much better or much worse by then, so it's all very much a case of planning for every eventuality.
Totally this. Everybody with kids are thinking about themselves.
Teachers are the custodians of our children's futures and thus incredibly significant to us.
Until lockdown (I hate the word!), I had lost my respect for the teaching profession. Now, I see them as heroes.
Why should they risk their lives? They signed up to be educators.
Nurses such as my wife knew what they signed up for although they could not have foreseen this. Nevertheless they continue with their duty.
I don't blame the teaching profession to be concerned and I totally respect their views about returning to work. They have family too. Whether an elderly parent or an at risk partner.
I've not seen, and forgive me if I've missed it, any post that considers these people that hold our kids futures in their hands. I've only seen posts that to be honest appear self centred and to do with "my" life.
I guarantee that we will lose some wonderful educators come the Autumn.



Lucas CAV

3,022 posts

219 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Trophy Husband said:
sim72 said:
Whilst we want to see all of our kids back in September (and all the communications with home this week have stressed this), we are of course aware of the concerns of many of them, especially given the fact that many of our kids live in extended family situations, due to the demographic of our catchment area.

Though we are planning to enable all 1,200 to return based on the Government's guidelines, we are of course aware that they may change once or multiple times between now and September (the guidance to primary schools before re-opening on June 1 changed nineteen times in a month), and of course we know that the situation re COVID may be much better or much worse by then, so it's all very much a case of planning for every eventuality.
Totally this. Everybody with kids are thinking about themselves.
Teachers are the custodians of our children's futures and thus incredibly significant to us.
Until lockdown (I hate the word!), I had lost my respect for the teaching profession. Now, I see them as heroes.
Why should they risk their lives? They signed up to be educators.
Nurses such as my wife knew what they signed up for although they could not have foreseen this. Nevertheless they continue with their duty.
I don't blame the teaching profession to be concerned and I totally respect their views about returning to work. They have family too. Whether an elderly parent or an at risk partner.
I've not seen, and forgive me if I've missed it, any post that considers these people that hold our kids futures in their hands. I've only seen posts that to be honest appear self centred and to do with "my" life.
I guarantee that we will lose some wonderful educators come the Autumn.
I'm doing 3 online leaving speeches for retiring staff.

Downward

3,593 posts

103 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Yep.
Eldest currently year 9. We are key workers but i chose not to send him in. Main reason was their lessons are on google classrooms. Their day would be spending all lessons in the computer room and then breaks.
For me this sounds awful, bad enough when your an adult never mind a kid.
He does his google classrooms thus at home. He has attended every lesson on time too.

Youngest Year 6. We sent her in for key workers. Issue was there were 3 kids in the whole school. Again this wasn’t great for her so we worked out a WFH rota between us and again kept her home.
She went back a few weeks ago. Shorter days and only 4 1/2.

Next week it’s down to 3 days per week shorter days still until they break up in like 3 weeks.
So 9 days to go until she breaks up and leaves primary school.


I work in the hospital. We have all had tests. Just 1 positive out of about 25. That person had no symptoms either.
As someone above states there is a higher risk of car accidents yet we all ferry our kids around.

SBDJ

1,321 posts

204 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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poo at Paul's said:
our schools are reporting that where they have been open for key worker and vulnerable kids thoughout, the uptake has been pitiful, like less than 10% some days. in.
I wouldn't take that at face value personally. My eldest was offered a school place at the start of lockdown, but the school prevented it being taken.

Both my school ages kids are back part time and have been for a few weeks now.

sim72

4,945 posts

134 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Trophy Husband said:
Totally this. Everybody with kids are thinking about themselves.
Teachers are the custodians of our children's futures and thus incredibly significant to us.
Until lockdown (I hate the word!), I had lost my respect for the teaching profession. Now, I see them as heroes.
Why should they risk their lives? They signed up to be educators.
Nurses such as my wife knew what they signed up for although they could not have foreseen this. Nevertheless they continue with their duty.
I don't blame the teaching profession to be concerned and I totally respect their views about returning to work. They have family too. Whether an elderly parent or an at risk partner.
I've not seen, and forgive me if I've missed it, any post that considers these people that hold our kids futures in their hands. I've only seen posts that to be honest appear self centred and to do with "my" life.
I guarantee that we will lose some wonderful educators come the Autumn.
We have lost three staff for September per COVID. One in their 60s, one Type 1 diabetic in their 50s, and one with a partner undergoing cancer treatment and who has major immunodeficiency issues. It is a shame, but I don't blame any of them.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Trophy Husband said:
Totally this. Everybody with kids are thinking about themselves.
Teachers are the custodians of our children's futures and thus incredibly significant to us.
Until lockdown (I hate the word!), I had lost my respect for the teaching profession. Now, I see them as heroes.
For me you have this completely wrong!

The kids should go back because of the benefit that it brings them. A lot of parents also feel very let down by teachers.

Kermit power

Original Poster:

28,643 posts

213 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Trophy Husband said:
Totally this. Everybody with kids are thinking about themselves.
Teachers are the custodians of our children's futures and thus incredibly significant to us.
Until lockdown (I hate the word!), I had lost my respect for the teaching profession. Now, I see them as heroes.
Why should they risk their lives? They signed up to be educators.
Nurses such as my wife knew what they signed up for although they could not have foreseen this. Nevertheless they continue with their duty.
I don't blame the teaching profession to be concerned and I totally respect their views about returning to work. They have family too. Whether an elderly parent or an at risk partner.
I've not seen, and forgive me if I've missed it, any post that considers these people that hold our kids futures in their hands. I've only seen posts that to be honest appear self centred and to do with "my" life.
I guarantee that we will lose some wonderful educators come the Autumn.
It's to do with everybody's lives. Not just now, but in the future as well. At the start of lockdown, the government pulled final year nursing and medicine students out of Uni to help man the wards. How would they cope if this crops up next year, and this year's penultimate year students have been out of Uni for half the year?

Move from that to looking not at individual parents complaining about how difficult their lives are if their kids can't go back to school, but looking at all of them as a collective. At the moment, vast numbers of households with kids off school will also have parents off work on furlough, so it doesn't really impact things at the moment, but paying for furlough is costing billions of pounds! There is simply no way that it can continue as it is. The country would go bust! One parent moaning that they want little Johnny to go back to school might be construed as selfish. Several million doing it because they can't otherwise go to work is going to crash the economy.

I have every sympathy for teachers with a chronic health condition, or living with someone who has one, but for the rest of them, the chances of them dying after catching Covid from a kid in their school is absolutely minuscule compared to the risk of the government not being able to pay their pension or provide them with free healthcare in retirement if they don't get everyone back working/learning soon.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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DoubleD said:
Trophy Husband said:
Totally this. Everybody with kids are thinking about themselves.
Teachers are the custodians of our children's futures and thus incredibly significant to us.
Until lockdown (I hate the word!), I had lost my respect for the teaching profession. Now, I see them as heroes.
For me you have this completely wrong!

The kids should go back because of the benefit that it brings them. A lot of parents also feel very let down by teachers.
Thanks for your opinion.

As you said, graciously, for you I have this wrong.
For me, you have this wrong.
My kids teachers have emailed them ftequently to a) ask them how they are. b) give them small amounts of learning to do and c) tell them they missed them and were thinking about seeing them soon.
Maybe things are different in a small village in Wales?
Maybe the fact my boys are only 8 and 9 makes a difference?
Maybe we're not all the same?
For the parents that feel they've been let down by teachers? Smell the coffee and see what the fluck is going on in the world. Stop being so precious. Be glad that your kids are healthy and your family is healthy if indeed they are and I hope they remain so.
Teachers didn't sign up to the potential to die from being educators. If the virus is strong in September I would have zero problem with teachers deciding not to go back to school for the sake of your little Jimmy.


wombleh

1,790 posts

122 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Kids are in year one and nursery so both been back and both much happier. Nobody in this house or close family is in a high risk group and fairly sure we’ve had it anyway so perhaps an easier choice for us than many.

sim72

4,945 posts

134 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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"A couple of emails", yeah right mate.

We've been in school every week since lockdown, including the Easter and half-term holidays. We'll be there in September. The PH culture of bashing teachers is tiresome, especially from the hard of thinking that seem to believe that schools are some sort of childcare system that exists to allow people to go to work.

sim72

4,945 posts

134 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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It's obviously an factor, but that isn't its core function. However, the Government thinks it is, otherwise it wouldn't have opened EYFS and Year 1 before Year 9 and Year 10.