Cut traffic by blocking roads?
Discussion
red_slr said:
There has been a policy round here of reducing road capacity for the last 10 years after a failed CC proposal. The LA want to screw the roads up as much as possible.
The main way they are doing this is taking any major road that has 2 lanes in each direction and bringing the pavement out into lane 1 thus taking 50% of the capacity away straight away.
Should be illegal to do this, and there is often zero reason to do so.
Here is an example. 4 lanes, 2 each way reduced to 2 lanes 1 each way. Was there a lot of accidents. No. Was there some local protest about traffic. No. Has traffic been sent on another route to ease congestion. No.
And guess what, traffic is now a nightmare and it can take up to an hour to get through this section. Madness. I could name 4 or 5 places within 5 miles of this one thats had the exact same treatment.
Fancy making space for pedestrians! What a bunch of bThe main way they are doing this is taking any major road that has 2 lanes in each direction and bringing the pavement out into lane 1 thus taking 50% of the capacity away straight away.
Should be illegal to do this, and there is often zero reason to do so.
Here is an example. 4 lanes, 2 each way reduced to 2 lanes 1 each way. Was there a lot of accidents. No. Was there some local protest about traffic. No. Has traffic been sent on another route to ease congestion. No.
And guess what, traffic is now a nightmare and it can take up to an hour to get through this section. Madness. I could name 4 or 5 places within 5 miles of this one thats had the exact same treatment.
ds!JagLover said:
What amuses me is the blanket statements people make.
"You don't need a car in London" is just complete nonsense if we are talking about the entire city of 9 million. If they had said in central London you don't need a car they might have more of a point. I don't know as I've never lived there.
The outer suburbs are little different to the surrounds of most other large towns and cities in my experience. For the majority public transport is something used to commute into a job in the centre. For anything local over a certain distance you use a car.
I got out a long time ago but anyone still living there needs to be careful of the politicians they elect. As this story shows.
It doesn't amuse me. I live in London."You don't need a car in London" is just complete nonsense if we are talking about the entire city of 9 million. If they had said in central London you don't need a car they might have more of a point. I don't know as I've never lived there.
The outer suburbs are little different to the surrounds of most other large towns and cities in my experience. For the majority public transport is something used to commute into a job in the centre. For anything local over a certain distance you use a car.
I got out a long time ago but anyone still living there needs to be careful of the politicians they elect. As this story shows.
Classic public transport "thinking" though. Any provision counts as "well served" because they say it does.
As for voting? Between the calibre of the candidates, the party system, and the faux socialism/crony capitalism that operates in practice, your vote is just rubber stamping the sham.
Dg504 said:
I live in Lewisham and on one of the roads that has been blocked. There has been very little signage or warning of it all, they appeared over night with not even a note through the letter box of the locals.
Overall I’m still not sure, on the one hand it’s great, the sheer number of mindless journeys it is hopefully cutting down on is great, not to mention the distinct lack of Golf R types blatting up and down with no regard for anyone.
On the other I do feel sorry for those who have to drive around, we bike or walk pretty much everywhere unless we’re leaving London (which hasn’t happened for 3 months). I do think/hope this initial hype and poor implementation will soon sort itself out, people will learn to plan their journey around which end of the road they need etc. I don’t expect driving within the north/south circular will ever get easier and in fairness it should be being discouraged as much as possible.
If anyone blocked my road, the neighbours woukd remove the blockage and burn the bollards in the front garden of their local councillor. My neighbours are proper feisty. Overall I’m still not sure, on the one hand it’s great, the sheer number of mindless journeys it is hopefully cutting down on is great, not to mention the distinct lack of Golf R types blatting up and down with no regard for anyone.
On the other I do feel sorry for those who have to drive around, we bike or walk pretty much everywhere unless we’re leaving London (which hasn’t happened for 3 months). I do think/hope this initial hype and poor implementation will soon sort itself out, people will learn to plan their journey around which end of the road they need etc. I don’t expect driving within the north/south circular will ever get easier and in fairness it should be being discouraged as much as possible.
sociopath said:
red_slr said:
There has been a policy round here of reducing road capacity for the last 10 years after a failed CC proposal. The LA want to screw the roads up as much as possible.
The main way they are doing this is taking any major road that has 2 lanes in each direction and bringing the pavement out into lane 1 thus taking 50% of the capacity away straight away.
Should be illegal to do this, and there is often zero reason to do so.
Here is an example. 4 lanes, 2 each way reduced to 2 lanes 1 each way. Was there a lot of accidents. No. Was there some local protest about traffic. No. Has traffic been sent on another route to ease congestion. No.
And guess what, traffic is now a nightmare and it can take up to an hour to get through this section. Madness. I could name 4 or 5 places within 5 miles of this one thats had the exact same treatment.
Fancy making space for pedestrians! What a bunch of bThe main way they are doing this is taking any major road that has 2 lanes in each direction and bringing the pavement out into lane 1 thus taking 50% of the capacity away straight away.
Should be illegal to do this, and there is often zero reason to do so.
Here is an example. 4 lanes, 2 each way reduced to 2 lanes 1 each way. Was there a lot of accidents. No. Was there some local protest about traffic. No. Has traffic been sent on another route to ease congestion. No.
And guess what, traffic is now a nightmare and it can take up to an hour to get through this section. Madness. I could name 4 or 5 places within 5 miles of this one thats had the exact same treatment.
ds!saaby93 said:
sociopath said:
red_slr said:
There has been a policy round here of reducing road capacity for the last 10 years after a failed CC proposal. The LA want to screw the roads up as much as possible.
The main way they are doing this is taking any major road that has 2 lanes in each direction and bringing the pavement out into lane 1 thus taking 50% of the capacity away straight away.
Should be illegal to do this, and there is often zero reason to do so.
Here is an example. 4 lanes, 2 each way reduced to 2 lanes 1 each way. Was there a lot of accidents. No. Was there some local protest about traffic. No. Has traffic been sent on another route to ease congestion. No.
And guess what, traffic is now a nightmare and it can take up to an hour to get through this section. Madness. I could name 4 or 5 places within 5 miles of this one thats had the exact same treatment.
Fancy making space for pedestrians! What a bunch of bThe main way they are doing this is taking any major road that has 2 lanes in each direction and bringing the pavement out into lane 1 thus taking 50% of the capacity away straight away.
Should be illegal to do this, and there is often zero reason to do so.
Here is an example. 4 lanes, 2 each way reduced to 2 lanes 1 each way. Was there a lot of accidents. No. Was there some local protest about traffic. No. Has traffic been sent on another route to ease congestion. No.
And guess what, traffic is now a nightmare and it can take up to an hour to get through this section. Madness. I could name 4 or 5 places within 5 miles of this one thats had the exact same treatment.
ds!Could it just be a quiet time of the day generally perhaps?
TeaNoSugar said:
saaby93 said:
sociopath said:
red_slr said:
There has been a policy round here of reducing road capacity for the last 10 years after a failed CC proposal. The LA want to screw the roads up as much as possible.
The main way they are doing this is taking any major road that has 2 lanes in each direction and bringing the pavement out into lane 1 thus taking 50% of the capacity away straight away.
Should be illegal to do this, and there is often zero reason to do so.
Here is an example. 4 lanes, 2 each way reduced to 2 lanes 1 each way. Was there a lot of accidents. No. Was there some local protest about traffic. No. Has traffic been sent on another route to ease congestion. No.
And guess what, traffic is now a nightmare and it can take up to an hour to get through this section. Madness. I could name 4 or 5 places within 5 miles of this one thats had the exact same treatment.
Fancy making space for pedestrians! What a bunch of bThe main way they are doing this is taking any major road that has 2 lanes in each direction and bringing the pavement out into lane 1 thus taking 50% of the capacity away straight away.
Should be illegal to do this, and there is often zero reason to do so.
Here is an example. 4 lanes, 2 each way reduced to 2 lanes 1 each way. Was there a lot of accidents. No. Was there some local protest about traffic. No. Has traffic been sent on another route to ease congestion. No.
And guess what, traffic is now a nightmare and it can take up to an hour to get through this section. Madness. I could name 4 or 5 places within 5 miles of this one thats had the exact same treatment.
ds!Could it just be a quiet time of the day generally perhaps?
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