Bianca Williams stop accusing race motivated.
Discussion
carinaman said:
I only caught parts of the grilling of Cressida Dick by Yvette Cooper and the Home Affairs Committee, that I think included Diane Abbott, about progress in the Met tackling racism since the murder of Stephen Lawrence and subsequent McPherson report, but it could have come across that Olympic athletes should somehow be treated differently.
Treating people differently just because they're Olympians isn't compatible with the Constable's Oath.
as Olympic athletes they should know how to behave. They have enjoyed a level of privilege and opportunity that many will never have, surely they have received a basic level of education during that journey that advises them on how to behave around others and that includes poice officers that are doing an already very difficult job and placing their lives on the line everytime they venture onto the streets of London. I was quite surprised at how they bothe spoke to those officers in the short video I have seen.Certainly not a reaction from indiviuals whohave been chosen to respresent their country.Treating people differently just because they're Olympians isn't compatible with the Constable's Oath.
J4CKO said:
Apparently saying they have not competed at the Olympics is denigrating their achievements, they are accomplished athletes, but the fact is, neither Bianca Williams or Ricardo Dos Santos have competed at the Olympics, though everyone keeps calling them Olympians.
Only on here (where someone also suggested the Commonwealth athlete distinction was misogyny as well as racism) not the real world surely?Dagnir said:
How on earth are people supposed to respect a Police force like this?
They're an embarrassment. Absolutely pathetic.
Even if you do not respect them you should appreciate the work they do and as such afford them the respect they deserve. You would not do it and many others are also unwilling to. Poorly paid, unsociable hours and then idiots like you describing them as "absolutely pathetic". Then they put up with nothing but rudeness goading and unfounded accusations against them stirred up by the press.They're an embarrassment. Absolutely pathetic.
Perhaps if they just went in 'heavy' with truncheons on every arrest and put everyone in handcuffs regardless of their colour or crime people may follow simple instructions. It may stop
them getting a load of mouth back.
Pip
Pip1968 said:
Dagnir said:
How on earth are people supposed to respect a Police force like this?
They're an embarrassment. Absolutely pathetic.
Even if you do not respect them you should appreciate the work they do and as such afford them the respect they deserve. You would not do it and many others are also unwilling to. Poorly paid, unsociable hours and then idiots like you describing them as "absolutely pathetic". Then they put up with nothing but rudeness goading and unfounded accusations against them stirred up by the press.They're an embarrassment. Absolutely pathetic.
Perhaps if they just went in 'heavy' with truncheons on every arrest and put everyone in handcuffs regardless of their colour or crime people may follow simple instructions. It may stop
them getting a load of mouth back.
Pip
What is pathetic is that the likes of the squirming Dick are crawling around in the gutter to make apologies simply based on the skin colour of the gobshytes making false allegations, she needs effing off sharpish and someone with some testosterone taking over to send the message that "we only apologise when we're wrong" not "when some arrogant chip carrying racist complains".
I agree 100% with hardening the stance on being abused also, from what I can see, many of those arrested just require a good kicking.(hey it works!)
Look to russia for the kinds of treatment some of theses nasties are due.
Cops are simply people they deserve as much respect as any other person expects, some cant seem to separate the fact that theres a fellow human being under the uniform and see only negatives.
Dont Panic said:
Pip1968 said:
Dagnir said:
How on earth are people supposed to respect a Police force like this?
They're an embarrassment. Absolutely pathetic.
Even if you do not respect them you should appreciate the work they do and as such afford them the respect they deserve. You would not do it and many others are also unwilling to. Poorly paid, unsociable hours and then idiots like you describing them as "absolutely pathetic". Then they put up with nothing but rudeness goading and unfounded accusations against them stirred up by the press.They're an embarrassment. Absolutely pathetic.
Perhaps if they just went in 'heavy' with truncheons on every arrest and put everyone in handcuffs regardless of their colour or crime people may follow simple instructions. It may stop
them getting a load of mouth back.
Pip
What is pathetic is that the likes of the squirming Dick are crawling around in the gutter to make apologies simply based on the skin colour of the gobshytes making false allegations, she needs effing off sharpish and someone with some testosterone taking over to send the message that "we only apologise when we're wrong" not "when some arrogant chip carrying racist complains".
I agree 100% with hardening the stance on being abused also, from what I can see, many of those arrested just require a good kicking.(hey it works!)
Look to russia for the kinds of treatment some of theses nasties are due.
Cops are simply people they deserve as much respect as any other person expects, some cant seem to separate the fact that theres a fellow human being under the uniform and see only negatives.
I'm frustrated at how toothless and weak the organisation/leadership is. I find it embarrassing.
They are suppose to be an authority and yet they are the ones being dictated to and controlled by arrogant scum on the streets. It's the opposite of how it should be!!
The worldwide reputation of our police force is a joke.....and given the weakness they just seem absolutely intent on showing to everyone, I can't see that ever changing.
Dagnir said:
Just to clarify, I meant the organisation (essentially those in strategic control) not individual coppers. I'm always respectful and appreciate the hard work down by the 'boots on the ground'.
I'm frustrated at how toothless and weak the organisation/leadership is. I find it embarrassing.
They are suppose to be an authority and yet they are the ones being dictated to and controlled by arrogant scum on the streets. It's the opposite of how it should be!!
The worldwide reputation of our police force is a joke.....and given the weakness they just seem absolutely intent on showing to everyone, I can't see that ever changing.
Well said, it must be hugely demotivating as a hard working copper.I'm frustrated at how toothless and weak the organisation/leadership is. I find it embarrassing.
They are suppose to be an authority and yet they are the ones being dictated to and controlled by arrogant scum on the streets. It's the opposite of how it should be!!
The worldwide reputation of our police force is a joke.....and given the weakness they just seem absolutely intent on showing to everyone, I can't see that ever changing.
Dagnir said:
Just to clarify, I meant the organisation (essentially those in strategic control) not individual coppers. I'm always respectful and appreciate the hard work down by the 'boots on the ground'.
I'm frustrated at how toothless and weak the organisation/leadership is. I find it embarrassing.
They are suppose to be an authority and yet they are the ones being dictated to and controlled by arrogant scum on the streets. It's the opposite of how it should be!!
The worldwide reputation of our police force is a joke.....and given the weakness they just seem absolutely intent on showing to everyone, I can't see that ever changing.
In that case I take back the accusation that you are an idiot.I'm frustrated at how toothless and weak the organisation/leadership is. I find it embarrassing.
They are suppose to be an authority and yet they are the ones being dictated to and controlled by arrogant scum on the streets. It's the opposite of how it should be!!
The worldwide reputation of our police force is a joke.....and given the weakness they just seem absolutely intent on showing to everyone, I can't see that ever changing.
Unfortunately there is too much political correctness and too many 'victims' these days. Everyone is a 'victim' rather than just putting things down to it just being part of life.
Pip
emperorburger said:
First name, Bianca. The irony......
Great minds.... https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Dagnir said:
Dont Panic said:
Pip1968 said:
Dagnir said:
How on earth are people supposed to respect a Police force like this?
They're an embarrassment. Absolutely pathetic.
Even if you do not respect them you should appreciate the work they do and as such afford them the respect they deserve. You would not do it and many others are also unwilling to. Poorly paid, unsociable hours and then idiots like you describing them as "absolutely pathetic". Then they put up with nothing but rudeness goading and unfounded accusations against them stirred up by the press.They're an embarrassment. Absolutely pathetic.
Perhaps if they just went in 'heavy' with truncheons on every arrest and put everyone in handcuffs regardless of their colour or crime people may follow simple instructions. It may stop
them getting a load of mouth back.
Pip
What is pathetic is that the likes of the squirming Dick are crawling around in the gutter to make apologies simply based on the skin colour of the gobshytes making false allegations, she needs effing off sharpish and someone with some testosterone taking over to send the message that "we only apologise when we're wrong" not "when some arrogant chip carrying racist complains".
I agree 100% with hardening the stance on being abused also, from what I can see, many of those arrested just require a good kicking.(hey it works!)
Look to russia for the kinds of treatment some of theses nasties are due.
Cops are simply people they deserve as much respect as any other person expects, some cant seem to separate the fact that theres a fellow human being under the uniform and see only negatives.
I'm frustrated at how toothless and weak the organisation/leadership is. I find it embarrassing.
They are suppose to be an authority and yet they are the ones being dictated to and controlled by arrogant scum on the streets. It's the opposite of how it should be!!
The worldwide reputation of our police force is a joke.....and given the weakness they just seem absolutely intent on showing to everyone, I can't see that ever changing.
He was signalled to pull in by a copper (you know those random roadside checks near laybys) with us going on hols.
He drove straight on!
Cop on motorbike gave chase and caught us up: 'What the hell do you think you're doing?'
'I'm running my business, these people in the car are my customers, I need to get them to their destination on time!'
Cop told him not to do it again, so we carried on.
He told us 'Your police are pussies. In Poland I would have been up against a wall with gun butt or similar against my neck!'
bhstewie said:
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