CV19 - The Anti Vaxxers Are Back

[eldar]

DeWar said:

He was by all accounts a knowledgable GP.

Of course having a medical degree doesn’t mean the recipient isn’t also a card carrying nutter.

A couple of my patients see this woman...

https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/5G_–_the_WHA...

Fascinating site, ticks just about every box in the seriously obsessed Fantasists category.

5G is obviously dangerous, harming people long before it was invented.

You obviously have sone interesting patients

[grumbledoak]

Hoofy said:

To save me half an hour of my life, is everything he says verified and is he genuinely telling the whole truth or is it all manipulated, made up or twisted in some way with dodgy as fk references being told by someone who has been ridiculed by experts or struck off some kind of official register and is now thinking of new ways of making a living via peddling his new book, video or course to dimwits?

"Do your own research" - I've stopped doing it because every time a Karen posts these kinds of things on FB, I can tick at least one of the above, thus negating the video, article, blog or podcast.

It's very dry, a little rambling but seemingly factual, no lizards or 5G crap. The second, shorter one probably the pick of the two.

[DeWar]

eldar said:

Fascinating site, ticks just about every box in the seriously obsessed Fantasists category.

5G is obviously dangerous, harming people long before it was invented.

You obviously have sone interesting patients

We all do.

For the absence of doubt, I didn’t refer them!

[anonymous-user]

grumbledoak said:

Hoofy said:

To save me half an hour of my life, is everything he says verified and is he genuinely telling the whole truth or is it all manipulated, made up or twisted in some way with dodgy as fk references being told by someone who has been ridiculed by experts or struck off some kind of official register and is now thinking of new ways of making a living via peddling his new book, video or course to dimwits?

"Do your own research" - I've stopped doing it because every time a Karen posts these kinds of things on FB, I can tick at least one of the above, thus negating the video, article, blog or podcast.

It's very dry, a little rambling but seemingly factual, no lizards or 5G crap. The second, shorter one probably the pick of the two.

I like him, he tells things in a no nonsense manner that some people hate.

Those people are generally the ones who believe HMG is perfect and Bill Gates is our magnanimous overlord

[Hoofy]

otolith said:

Hoofy said:

Woody John said:

Well worth a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVa8maJb5JU

To save me half an hour of my life, is everything he says verified and is he genuinely telling the whole truth or is it all manipulated, made up or twisted in some way with dodgy as fk references being told by someone who has been ridiculed by experts or struck off some kind of official register and is now thinking of new ways of making a living via peddling his new book, video or course to dimwits?

"Do your own research" - I've stopped doing it because every time a Karen posts these kinds of things on FB, I can tick at least one of the above, thus negating the video, article, blog or podcast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Coleman

Bingo! What do I win?

[Hoofy]

DeWar said:

Hoofy said:

To save me half an hour of my life, is everything he says verified and is he genuinely telling the whole truth or is it all manipulated, made up or twisted in some way with dodgy as fk references being told by someone who has been ridiculed by experts or struck off some kind of official register and is now thinking of new ways of making a living via peddling his new book, video or course to dimwits?

The dude in the video is a doctor who claimed AIDS was a hoax. You can now do something more productive with your life, such as fishing in your toilet bowl.

Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 8th July 13:34

[Woody John]

Hoofy said:

DeWar said:

Hoofy said:

To save me half an hour of my life, is everything he says verified and is he genuinely telling the whole truth or is it all manipulated, made up or twisted in some way with dodgy as fk references being told by someone who has been ridiculed by experts or struck off some kind of official register and is now thinking of new ways of making a living via peddling his new book, video or course to dimwits?

The dude in the video is a doctor who claimed AIDS was a hoax. You can now do something more productive with your life, such as fishing in your toilet bowl.
/quote]

Did he though? And if he did was he wrong?

[Oakey]

Woody John said:

Did he though? And if he did was he wrong?

What makes you trust this Doctor more than other Doctors?

[mcdjl]

Woody John said:

Hoofy said:

DeWar said:

Hoofy said:

To save me half an hour of my life, is everything he says verified and is he genuinely telling the whole truth or is it all manipulated, made up or twisted in some way with dodgy as fk references being told by someone who has been ridiculed by experts or struck off some kind of official register and is now thinking of new ways of making a living via peddling his new book, video or course to dimwits?

The dude in the video is a doctor who claimed AIDS was a hoax. You can now do something more productive with your life, such as fishing in your toilet bowl.

Did he though? And if he did was he wrong?

https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816/an-old-man-in-a-chair-pulling-rabbits-from-his-bag-of-truths In the 1980s, he called Aids "the hoax of the century". Now, he says the same of coronavirus.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/d... Certain things, of course, he does remember: that he was right about Aids not representing a major threat to heterosexuals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Coleman In November 1989 he wrote an article published in The Sun under the headline "AIDS—THE HOAX OF THE CENTURY


Thats a yes he called AIDs a hoax.

[otolith]

Woody John said:

Hoofy said:

The dude in the video is a doctor who claimed AIDS was a hoax. You can now do something more productive with your life, such as fishing in your toilet bowl.
/quote]

Did he though?

Yes. And still does.

Woody John said:

And if he did was he wrong?

Yes. And still is.

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/aids.htm

[otolith]

mcdjl said:

Certain things, of course, he does remember: that he was right about Aids not representing a major threat to heterosexuals

Someone should tell sub-Saharan Africa.

[mcdjl]

otolith said:

mcdjl said:

Certain things, of course, he does remember: that he was right about Aids not representing a major threat to heterosexuals

Someone should tell sub-Saharan Africa.

Just for clarity that line was taken from the Independent article. I think its author was suggesting in the way it was written that the claim is BS.

[otolith]

mcdjl said:

otolith said:

mcdjl said:

Certain things, of course, he does remember: that he was right about Aids not representing a major threat to heterosexuals

Someone should tell sub-Saharan Africa.

Just for clarity that line was taken from the Independent article. I think its author was suggesting in the way it was written that the claim is BS.

Yep, sorry, I got that, didn't mean to suggest that was your position.

[DeWar]

Woody John said:

Did he though? And if he did was he wrong?

If you’re genuinely asking me if a former doctor was wrong to call AIDS a hoax then I got nothin’ for ya!

[Hoofy]

That name rings a bell - he was a writer for the esteemed Daily Mirror or something wasn't he?

He looks different to how he did back then; I don't think he wore a bow tie and tweed jacket back then. I guess he's trying to look more credible.

[Kermit power]

otolith said:

Woody John said:

Hoofy said:

The dude in the video is a doctor who claimed AIDS was a hoax. You can now do something more productive with your life, such as fishing in your toilet bowl.
/quote]

Did he though?

Yes. And still does.

Woody John said:

And if he did was he wrong?

Yes. And still is.

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/aids.htm

Have you actually read the page you've linked to?

I found it surprisingly credible! Certainly not up there with the usual conspiracy guff. He's not arguing that people haven't died, or that they've been eliminated by lizards or any of that sort of crap. I'd certainly want to research more before writing it off out of hand.

[otolith]

Kermit power said:

otolith said:

Woody John said:

Hoofy said:

The dude in the video is a doctor who claimed AIDS was a hoax. You can now do something more productive with your life, such as fishing in your toilet bowl.
/quote]

Did he though?

Yes. And still does.

Woody John said:

And if he did was he wrong?

Yes. And still is.

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/aids.htm

Have you actually read the page you've linked to?

I found it surprisingly credible! Certainly not up there with the usual conspiracy guff. He's not arguing that people haven't died, or that they've been eliminated by lizards or any of that sort of crap. I'd certainly want to research more before writing it off out of hand.

Bullst which is credible to laymen is still just that.

He's as welcome to prove his claims and publish in a peer reviewed journal as anyone else.

He's got a massive body of literature to disprove, though.

[Gadgetmac]

Kermit power said:

otolith said:

Woody John said:

Hoofy said:

The dude in the video is a doctor who claimed AIDS was a hoax. You can now do something more productive with your life, such as fishing in your toilet bowl.
/quote]

Did he though?

Yes. And still does.

Woody John said:

And if he did was he wrong?

Yes. And still is.

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/aids.htm

Have you actually read the page you've linked to?

I found it surprisingly credible! Certainly not up there with the usual conspiracy guff. He's not arguing that people haven't died, or that they've been eliminated by lizards or any of that sort of crap. I'd certainly want to research more before writing it off out of hand.

Eh?

He's arguing that Aids doesn't actually exist.

It's called aids denialism.

[Woody John]

Kermit power said:

otolith said:

Woody John said:

Hoofy said:

The dude in the video is a doctor who claimed AIDS was a hoax. You can now do something more productive with your life, such as fishing in your toilet bowl.
/quote]

Did he though?

Yes. And still does.

Woody John said:

And if he did was he wrong?

Yes. And still is.

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/aids.htm

Have you actually read the page you've linked to?

I found it surprisingly credible! Certainly not up there with the usual conspiracy guff. He's not arguing that people haven't died, or that they've been eliminated by lizards or any of that sort of crap. I'd certainly want to research more before writing it off out of hand.

+1

[otolith]

If you are convinced by that (and accept it without researching why science believes otherwise and has, on that basis, massively improved outcomes for people with HIV), I strongly recommend that you don't open the door to anyone selling religion, financial products or magnets for your fuel lines.