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mx5nut said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I don't expect this to be a surprise to anyone.
We can all expect a lot more red tape and inconvenience when working and travelling in the EU unless a substantial deal is reached.
Such great times lie ahead
Project We can all expect a lot more red tape and inconvenience when working and travelling in the EU unless a substantial deal is reached.
Such great times lie ahead
Being pragmatic... Who really cares if you have to have health insurance to go on holiday? Or you don't get your data bundle guaranteed abroad? None of that has stopped me travelling outside of Euroland - and it won't stop be visiting many of the amazing cities in Europe going forward.
I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
milkround said:
Being pragmatic... Who really cares if you have to have health insurance to go on holiday? Or you don't get your data bundle guaranteed abroad? None of that has stopped me travelling outside of Euroland - and it won't stop be visiting many of the amazing cities in Europe going forward.
I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
If you plan to drive between Spain and France you will need two I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
milkround said:
Being pragmatic... Who really cares if you have to have health insurance to go on holiday? Or you don't get your data bundle guaranteed abroad? None of that has stopped me travelling outside of Euroland - and it won't stop be visiting many of the amazing cities in Europe going forward.
I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
£5.50 for the year, or a whole 45p odd per monthI don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
For some that's gallons of these
https://www.gov.uk/driving-abroad/get-an-idp
milkround said:
Being pragmatic... Who really cares if you have to have health insurance to go on holiday? Or you don't get your data bundle guaranteed abroad? None of that has stopped me travelling outside of Euroland - and it won't stop be visiting many of the amazing cities in Europe going forward.
I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
Many retired people will have underlying health conditions, yet still enjoy a break in the Sun. Let's hope the cost of health insurance doesn't become a burden. But I'm glad you are going to be ok, other than a little more paperwork and a little extra cost.I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
citizensm1th said:
If you think mobile phone companies have found a new cash cow just wait until the medical insurance companies get their hooks into the ibiza crowd, our tabloid press are going to have a new golden era in reporting on all the drunks and druggies getting ripped off for trips to a&e
GoodWhy should it be OK for idiots to behave like braindead idiots and then expect the local health service to pickup the tab for stitching them back together after they have filled their bodies to the brim with crap lager and Jägerbombs, before falling flat on their faces?
Helicopter123 said:
milkround said:
Being pragmatic... Who really cares if you have to have health insurance to go on holiday? Or you don't get your data bundle guaranteed abroad? None of that has stopped me travelling outside of Euroland - and it won't stop be visiting many of the amazing cities in Europe going forward.
I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
Many retired people will have underlying health conditions, yet still enjoy a break in the Sun. Let's hope the cost of health insurance doesn't become a burden. But I'm glad you are going to be ok, other than a little more paperwork and a little extra cost.I don't even think about it when I go on longer trips out of Europe. I go on a price comparison site and then click buy. It takes about 5 minutes. I suppose it might be more of a drama if you have loads of serious health problems... But if you are very unwell I doubt you are regularly going on holiday.
In reality if we just see Europe like any other country now it's not so much of a drama. Big companies moving stuff will have a bit of paperwork - but for your average man on the street it won't make much difference.
I'd rather we have some sort of arrangement to make it even easier. And I'd rather we had a good relationship with Europe. Truth be told if I could go back and change my vote to remain I would. But I can't and I'm not going to worry about what I can't change. The IDP is a pain... But again takes about 2 minutes at the post office to sort, and costs about the price of a weatherspoons pint in London. So it's not a game-changer either.
Anyone with underlying health conditions going abroad purely on the basis of having an EHIC card thinking it gives them carte balance for every eventuality whilst in an EU country needs some education.
It's clear some others need the same education
https://www.e111ehic.co.uk/?gclid=CjwKCAjwjLD4BRAi...
It's not travel insurance
The EHIC is valuable protection, but it isn't a replacement for travel insurance.
By having both, you reduce the risk of large medical bills, delays in treatment and a huge amount of stress in the event of a medical emergency.
citizensm1th said:
It is amusing that the removal of something that is undeniably helpful is seen as some sort of victory.
If you're referring to the removal of the EHIC, can you point to a post whereby anyone is claiming it to be some sort of victory?Has anyone suggested it's not helpful?
As opposed to some stating, and with evidence (see above my previous post), that on its own it isn't the solution to every panacea, and most organisations recommend a separate health insurance policy be taken out in conjunction with the EHIC.
The removal is a consequence of leaving the EU, a decision arrived at after a democratic vote held back in 2016.
It remains to be seen if some sort of replacement for the EHIC is not pursued and something similar not provided, if not I can see quite a few EU countries struggling when the number of tourists who solely relied on the EHIC dwindles away.
don'tbesilly said:
If you're referring to the removal of the EHIC, can you point to a post whereby anyone is claiming it to be some sort of victory?
Has anyone suggested it's not helpful?
As opposed to some stating, and with evidence (see above my previous post), that on its own it isn't the solution to every panacea, and most organisations recommend a separate health insurance policy be taken out in conjunction with the EHIC.
The removal is a consequence of leaving the EU, a decision arrived at after a democratic vote held back in 2016.
It remains to be seen if some sort of replacement for the EHIC is not pursued and something similar not provided, if not I can see quite a few EU countries struggling when the number of tourists who solely relied on the EHIC dwindles away.
Right back at you no has said it is a panacea for not having insurance but it is better than nothing which will be the case in future for the feckless who invade benidorm on a low cost holiday think of nothing more than booze and a shag. Has anyone suggested it's not helpful?
As opposed to some stating, and with evidence (see above my previous post), that on its own it isn't the solution to every panacea, and most organisations recommend a separate health insurance policy be taken out in conjunction with the EHIC.
The removal is a consequence of leaving the EU, a decision arrived at after a democratic vote held back in 2016.
It remains to be seen if some sort of replacement for the EHIC is not pursued and something similar not provided, if not I can see quite a few EU countries struggling when the number of tourists who solely relied on the EHIC dwindles away.
citizensm1th said:
don'tbesilly said:
If you're referring to the removal of the EHIC, can you point to a post whereby anyone is claiming it to be some sort of victory?
Has anyone suggested it's not helpful?
As opposed to some stating, and with evidence (see above my previous post), that on its own it isn't the solution to every panacea, and most organisations recommend a separate health insurance policy be taken out in conjunction with the EHIC.
The removal is a consequence of leaving the EU, a decision arrived at after a democratic vote held back in 2016.
It remains to be seen if some sort of replacement for the EHIC is not pursued and something similar not provided, if not I can see quite a few EU countries struggling when the number of tourists who solely relied on the EHIC dwindles away.
Right back at you no has said it is a panacea for not having insurance but it is better than nothing which will be the case in future for the feckless who invade benidorm on a low cost holiday think of nothing more than booze and a shag. Has anyone suggested it's not helpful?
As opposed to some stating, and with evidence (see above my previous post), that on its own it isn't the solution to every panacea, and most organisations recommend a separate health insurance policy be taken out in conjunction with the EHIC.
The removal is a consequence of leaving the EU, a decision arrived at after a democratic vote held back in 2016.
It remains to be seen if some sort of replacement for the EHIC is not pursued and something similar not provided, if not I can see quite a few EU countries struggling when the number of tourists who solely relied on the EHIC dwindles away.
Do you really care about the feckless in Benidorm?
Do you really care about the feckless who care more about getting drunk and rogering any female who happens to have a pulse and who's breath is just about distinguishable on a glass, but couldn't give a toss about falling ill or falling off a moped and breaking their neck, add any bones to suit.
I personally don't care for the feckless, I rather suspect you don't either.
don'tbesilly said:
So no claims of victory, nor a suggestion that it's not helpful, thanks.
Do you really care about the feckless in Benidorm?
Do you really care about the feckless who care more about getting drunk and rogering any female who happens to have a pulse and who's breath is just about distinguishable on a glass, but couldn't give a toss about falling ill or falling off a moped and breaking their neck, add any bones to suit.
I personally don't care for the feckless, I rather suspect you don't either.
No I don't care for the feckless, but you and I both know the first time some scrot hires a scooter and wraps himself around a lamppost the outcry in our press over a promising footballer being stranded in some Spanish hospital with no way to pay for health care will mean our government will end up having to sort it all out at the publics cost and for what? Unicorns that are seemingly vanishingly rare?Do you really care about the feckless in Benidorm?
Do you really care about the feckless who care more about getting drunk and rogering any female who happens to have a pulse and who's breath is just about distinguishable on a glass, but couldn't give a toss about falling ill or falling off a moped and breaking their neck, add any bones to suit.
I personally don't care for the feckless, I rather suspect you don't either.
I wonder how the good people of Chatham are feeling right now?
citizensm1th said:
don'tbesilly said:
So no claims of victory, nor a suggestion that it's not helpful, thanks.
Do you really care about the feckless in Benidorm?
Do you really care about the feckless who care more about getting drunk and rogering any female who happens to have a pulse and who's breath is just about distinguishable on a glass, but couldn't give a toss about falling ill or falling off a moped and breaking their neck, add any bones to suit.
I personally don't care for the feckless, I rather suspect you don't either.
No I don't care for the feckless, but you and I both know the first time some scrot hires a scooter and wraps himself around a lamppost the outcry in our press over a promising footballer being stranded in some Spanish hospital with no way to pay for health care will mean our government will end up having to sort it all out at the publics cost and for what? Unicorns that are seemingly vanishingly rare?Do you really care about the feckless in Benidorm?
Do you really care about the feckless who care more about getting drunk and rogering any female who happens to have a pulse and who's breath is just about distinguishable on a glass, but couldn't give a toss about falling ill or falling off a moped and breaking their neck, add any bones to suit.
I personally don't care for the feckless, I rather suspect you don't either.
I wonder how the good people of Chatham are feeling right now?
Do you think that an EHIC card would cover such an eventuality now?
I'd hazard a guess that you couldn't find an example of where it has, I doubt a private insurance company would cover such an eventuality either.
The type of scenario you paint normally involves a 'JustGiving' cry for help with varying degrees of success, sob stories as you've described rely on the same sort of people who may well have ended up in the scenario you've described.
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