If masks become compulsory in shops.
Poll: If masks become compulsory in shops.
Total Members Polled: 1248
Discussion
El stovey said:
The reason for the masks is to help stop the spread of the coronavirus
It's not the reason that I wear one. As previously mentioned, wearing one allows me to access the services I need and that's all. The science still appears to be arguing with itself as to the effectiveness of masks, but I'm sure one side is correct.
I'm in Scotland - thought I'd push the boat out and went into a sandwich shop yesterday for the first time in ages.
Put my face mask on and checked that there were no more than 3 customers already in the place before I went in, big signs on the door "MASKS ARE MANDATORY", "MAXIMUM OF 3 CUSTOMERS AT A TIME".
Walked in - chap at counter had no mask on, serving staff no masks, 2 lads walk in behind me with no masks....and now we've broken the dreaded 3 customer rule too! I just sighed and sheepishly took off my mask - what's the f
king point.
The serving staff were two young girls, no older than 20, what a st position to put them in - there's no way you can expect it to be "enforced" in situations like that.
Put my face mask on and checked that there were no more than 3 customers already in the place before I went in, big signs on the door "MASKS ARE MANDATORY", "MAXIMUM OF 3 CUSTOMERS AT A TIME".
Walked in - chap at counter had no mask on, serving staff no masks, 2 lads walk in behind me with no masks....and now we've broken the dreaded 3 customer rule too! I just sighed and sheepishly took off my mask - what's the f
king point.The serving staff were two young girls, no older than 20, what a s
t position to put them in - there's no way you can expect it to be "enforced" in situations like that.Andy20vt said:
The wearing of face masks I believe should be a personal choice. Compulsory use is a bad idea because of the following reasons:
1. They could make people either overly blase or more afraid depending an their existing bias.
2. Face masks are bloody uncomfortable so many people just will not wear them, me included. If they then can't go out, business will suffer.
3. There is very contradictory medical evidence whether they actually are needed or not.
4. If we were going to introduce masks then why did we not do this back in February/March. Why do this now when cases have fallen drastically with little sign of a second wave? 'After the horse has bolted' springs to mind.
5. We were starting to do so well in our fight against single use plastic. Discarded masks and other PPE are currently polluting our natural environment, our rivers and our oceans. Each discarded mask = more dead marine life.
6. We really should not be dictated to by the government what we should or shouldn't be wearing. This is a very backward step in personal liberty.
7. It gives those turgid Facebook virtue signalers, the Karen's and the 'curtain twitchers' who like to shame others even more power and ammunition going forward.
1. Bulls1. They could make people either overly blase or more afraid depending an their existing bias.
2. Face masks are bloody uncomfortable so many people just will not wear them, me included. If they then can't go out, business will suffer.
3. There is very contradictory medical evidence whether they actually are needed or not.
4. If we were going to introduce masks then why did we not do this back in February/March. Why do this now when cases have fallen drastically with little sign of a second wave? 'After the horse has bolted' springs to mind.
5. We were starting to do so well in our fight against single use plastic. Discarded masks and other PPE are currently polluting our natural environment, our rivers and our oceans. Each discarded mask = more dead marine life.
6. We really should not be dictated to by the government what we should or shouldn't be wearing. This is a very backward step in personal liberty.
7. It gives those turgid Facebook virtue signalers, the Karen's and the 'curtain twitchers' who like to shame others even more power and ammunition going forward.
t. Blasé people will be blasé regardless - at least mandatory masks protect us from them to some degree.2. Uncomfortable. Really? That's the second-best argument you had? Buy online instead.
3. Academtic research says otherwise. It's also culturally standard in places like Japan even when someone has a common cold. A mask is a courtesy to prevent them passing it on to others.
4. Better late than never.
5. I'm not aware of plastic in masks but I agree disposal is important. Lesser of two (significant) evils right now though.
6. Bulls
t. See my earlier post about running through Asda with your knob flailiing around. There are already laws in place regarding what parts of your body you have to cover when out in public.7. Irrelevant. Masks demonstrably help prevent transmission of bodily fluids from one person to another via the respiratory system. We're in the grip of the most serious respiratory virus we've seen in 100 years; why wouldn't you do something that's shown to reduce transmission?
We're just in a period of time where we're being asked to think of others' well-being. If we want the reopening of the country to go as well as possible I think mask-wearing will help enormously with keeping the spread in check.
Brave Fart said:
ollyprice87 said:
Genuine question - why?
Is it a macho thing? Do you think you'll look silly? I honestly can't comprehend it but eager to know why.
My reasons:Is it a macho thing? Do you think you'll look silly? I honestly can't comprehend it but eager to know why.
- I find them damp and sweaty, really unpleasant.
- I think it is important to see people's facial expressions, and most importantly, smiles. It's part of being human.
- Once implemented, there's a danger they'll become permanent.
- I object to being told what to do by the state for something so marginal; I dislike the nanny state I suppose.
- There's something dystopian about masks; to me they convey danger and fear, slightly sinister.
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ksake, I despair, I really do.Drive Blind said:
how do you stop them steaming up your glasses ?
If you haven't already, get masks with a metal nosebridge to ensure as close a fit as possible at the top. Having the mask further up your nose and the glasses sat on the mask can help. I'm a glasses-wearer but I just deal with the minor inconvenience when it happens. I might investigate anti-fogging sprays but it's really not too much of an issue for the brief period I'm in a shop.Edited by Funk on Monday 13th July 17:12
I think the main reason that I detest mask wearing is because if we do start to wear them then the virus has won, we will turn into a Country looking like this.
When it should look like this.
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
When it should look like this.
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
I went shopping at my local supermarket today, only three people got closer than one metre to me and all three were wearing masks. Personally I will just not go anywhere where I need to wear a mask unless I have no choice. If the Gov. think wearing masks will make people more likely to go to places where they have to be worn then they are even more stupid than I give them credit for.
scottyp123 said:
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
Why focus on China?Japan or South Korea are countries where masks are culturally "normal" and I wouldn't say they're faceless drones.
If you only look for the negatives it's all you'll ever see.
scottyp123 said:
I think the main reason that I detest mask wearing is because if we do start to wear them then the virus has won, we will turn into a Country looking like this.
When it should look like this.
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
But look at them all, walking around with masks....alive.When it should look like this.
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
And calling it 'the sniffles' immediately invalidates any argument you could've made; I can see why you don't want to wear a mask for something you're not taking seriously.
Edited by Funk on Monday 13th July 17:19
scottyp123 said:
I think the main reason that I detest mask wearing is because if we do start to wear them then the virus has won, we will turn into a Country looking like this.
When it should look like this.
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
Wow!When it should look like this.
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
scottyp123 said:
I think the main reason that I detest mask wearing is because if we do start to wear them then the virus has won, we will turn into a Country looking like this.
When it should look like this.
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
Its a sign of the times that I genuinely cant tell if this post is sarcastic or not. I really hope it is. When it should look like this.
I used to look at pictures of China and think thank god we live in a free country and aren't a nation of miserable faceless drones, the UK used to rule the world but now we are running scared from the sniffles, in my opinion (which is worth nothing I know) it's time to ditch every restriction going and get back out there and party whatever is likely to happen.
Funk said:
But look at them all, walking around....alive.
And calling it 'the sniffles' immediately invalidates any argument you could've made; I can see why you don't want to wear a mask for something you're not taking seriously.
Well what would you call it, it certainly isn't any sort of dangerous killer disease, 99.9% of people that catch it live. I've had it I think and I got a headache for 3 or 4 days and I'm alomost 50 and fat with high blood pressure. As for staying alive everyone I see without a mask appeared to be still alive as well.And calling it 'the sniffles' immediately invalidates any argument you could've made; I can see why you don't want to wear a mask for something you're not taking seriously.
Cold said:
The science still appears to be arguing with itself as to the effectiveness of masks, but I'm sure one side is correct.
I'm not sure that there is that much debate.A mask made from the correct material and worn in the correct manner will undoubtedly help and there is scientific studies in support of that. .
Most of the general public will be using reusable fabric masks and also wont have been trained in the use of masks. They will be constantly touching them either to fiddle with them or to tug them down or up. Wearing a damp fabric mask in front of your mouth and nose is unlikely to improve your health to say the least.
It is a entirely pointless measure that will do little if anything to stop the spread of the virus but put off many from using shops, just when physical retailers need shoppers to prevent collapse.
Funk said:
I'm beginning to understand why we have the third-highest mortality rate in the world from Covid-19.
But I'm not dead, no-one I know is dead and no-one that everyone I know knows is dead or even had it. If I wanted to stand a better chance not dying prematurely I wouldn't have had eight pints yesterday.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff