If masks become compulsory in shops.

If masks become compulsory in shops.

Poll: If masks become compulsory in shops.

Total Members Polled: 1248

It will make me more likely to visit shops.: 7%
It will make me less likely to visit shops.: 47%
It won't make any difference to me.: 44%
Other - explain yourself.: 1%
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RSTurboPaul

10,382 posts

258 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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S1KRR said:
Rumours circulating that Witty (who has championed lockdown and masks) is about to Resign (or be sacked) Along with Hancock who showed himself to be on a powertrip in the chamber today.

I think if they both go, (I hope) the Gov will point to them and say "all their idea, we think we don't need X, Y Z"

And use it to row back on things. Problem is that I don't think Boris hears the people as much as the wkers in the media. Maybe if he dared to meet some people in the world, he'd get a more rounded view of things.

As said elsewhere, he currently has a habit of copying Sturgeon, so this masks in schools bks will be a good place for him to stop that!
I am struggling to see Hancock going - he loves the powertrip so much, who else is going to pretend that any new legislation is an 'emergency' and must be introduced on their whim with no discussion in parliament, while trying to lead us towards a 'brave new world' where we must submit to weekly testing 'for the greater good'?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Alucidnation said:
Do you actually do anything other than spend much of your day posting bks on PH?

(It's a small 't' by the way).
Yes, the phone sometimes gives out random capitals.

I feel I need to be the yin to your yang.


Vanden Saab

14,102 posts

74 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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paulw123 said:
Alucidnation said:
What a total joke. I don’t have kids but if I did and they were at that school, they wouldn’t be going.
Its Bournemouth, a seaside town, the same place where the council declared a major incident because holidaymakers came to the seaside. The people who are in charge locally are a special kind of stupid but luckily the rest of Dorset wanted nothing to do with them and managed to persuade them to breakaway and form their own local council. We point and laugh at the increasingly stupid things they do...

grumbledoak

31,536 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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RDMcG said:
well..coming to the end of volume 1 and could summarize a lot of the discussion as below,see on on another thread:
How would you summarize your own contributions?


monkfish1

11,070 posts

224 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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paulw123 said:
Alucidnation said:
What a total joke. I don’t have kids but if I did and they were at that school, they wouldn’t be going.
Somewhat inevitable. Having pushed the decision down to headteachers, some will decide to do this to cover their backside. Once a few have it, it will snowball and they will all do it. No headteacher will want to be seen as an outlier and be "killing children". Throw in a few school closures because "cases", and by month end it will be all schools. Just in time for them to be made mandatory for everyone else everywhere sometime in october. Just as i predicted.

What i dont understand is people who cannot or will not see the direction of travel. Making it headteachers responsibility could only ever have one outcome.

kayc

4,492 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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So..for all you masketeers out there..Mrs Pelosi the latest after Fauci and Ferguson previously, proving even they dont believe masks are necessary and getting caught out...or is it just a case of do as i say not as i do!!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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monkfish1 said:
Somewhat inevitable. Having pushed the decision down to headteachers, some will decide to do this to cover their backside. Once a few have it, it will snowball and they will all do it. No headteacher will want to be seen as an outlier and be "killing children". Throw in a few school closures because "cases", and by month end it will be all schools. Just in time for them to be made mandatory for everyone else everywhere sometime in october. Just as i predicted.

What i dont understand is people who cannot or will not see the direction of travel. Making it headteachers responsibility could only ever have one outcome.
Governments since the 90s have implemented big brother style nanny controls coupled with a vilification of traditional values which has generated large swathes of society which have been taught to hate themselves but also to hate others more for not conforming to their own masochistic tendencies.

Carrot

7,294 posts

202 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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GSE said:
There is no conspiracy, it's just a perfect storm of social media and main stream over reactions and incompetent politicians led by social media. May be Labour or the Liberal Democrats would have handled it differently (probably worse..) but that's still no excuse for incompetence. I hope their arses get kicked really hard at the next election.

Loos like they are going to play the same trick of pulling out the rug from beneath your feet again by re-introducing two weeks quarantine if you visit Portugal, and pulling people off flights from Zante and instructing them to go into quarantine for 2 weeks.

The virus is burning itself out just like every other strain of flu.

I do not want to see a future of permanent Zombie Apocalypse Mask wearing folk because of this. I like to see peoples faces and a smile when appropriate.

When will it end?

When can we go back to normal?
100% this! However whenever people bring up the possibility that world governments have just ballsed this up, everyone else reverts to "oooo tin foil hat"

The government is far too retarded to even begin to try and speculate about a conspiracy level event. Just look at trying to create a "world beating" app FFS.

This is a balls up, its embarrassing now, and watch as the governments of the world try to weasel out of it whilst trying to maintain some kind of integrity.

kingston12

5,483 posts

157 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Carrot said:
GSE said:
There is no conspiracy, it's just a perfect storm of social media and main stream over reactions and incompetent politicians led by social media. May be Labour or the Liberal Democrats would have handled it differently (probably worse..) but that's still no excuse for incompetence. I hope their arses get kicked really hard at the next election.

Loos like they are going to play the same trick of pulling out the rug from beneath your feet again by re-introducing two weeks quarantine if you visit Portugal, and pulling people off flights from Zante and instructing them to go into quarantine for 2 weeks.

The virus is burning itself out just like every other strain of flu.

I do not want to see a future of permanent Zombie Apocalypse Mask wearing folk because of this. I like to see peoples faces and a smile when appropriate.

When will it end?

When can we go back to normal?
100% this! However whenever people bring up the possibility that world governments have just ballsed this up, everyone else reverts to "oooo tin foil hat"

The government is far too retarded to even begin to try and speculate about a conspiracy level event. Just look at trying to create a "world beating" app FFS.

This is a balls up, its embarrassing now, and watch as the governments of the world try to weasel out of it whilst trying to maintain some kind of integrity.
Two good posts.

Whilst everyone has the right to their viiews, the problem in this case is that it makes it easy for the government and media to undermine more mainstream protest against what they’ve done.

The BBC reported on the 35k-strong protest on Berlin on the weekend, and within the first paragraph had dismissed most of them as having “far-right sympathies’. It was similar with the London protest, where most people just see a group of 5G/flat-earth types when I’m sure there must have been quite a few just genuinely protesting against what has happened with no further agenda.

Edited by kingston12 on Wednesday 2nd September 09:05

BigMon

4,193 posts

129 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Carrot said:
100% this! However whenever people bring up the possibility that world governments have just ballsed this up, everyone else reverts to "oooo tin foil hat"

The government is far too retarded to even begin to try and speculate about a conspiracy level event. Just look at trying to create a "world beating" app FFS.

This is a balls up, its embarrassing now, and watch as the governments of the world try to weasel out of it whilst trying to maintain some kind of integrity.
I don't think anyone is shouting 'tin foil' about world governments nausing this up, it's when people start bringing in Bill Gates, forced vaccine programs making fortunes for shadowy enterprise, chip implants, etc, etc, etc that the Bacofoil is brought out.

I don't think the government knows how to get out of this now and christ knows what's going to happen when furlough payments end but it certainly won't be champagne and rainbows.

kayc

4,492 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Carrot said:
GSE said:
There is no conspiracy, it's just a perfect storm of social media and main stream over reactions and incompetent politicians led by social media. May be Labour or the Liberal Democrats would have handled it differently (probably worse..) but that's still no excuse for incompetence. I hope their arses get kicked really hard at the next election.

Loos like they are going to play the same trick of pulling out the rug from beneath your feet again by re-introducing two weeks quarantine if you visit Portugal, and pulling people off flights from Zante and instructing them to go into quarantine for 2 weeks.

The virus is burning itself out just like every other strain of flu.

I do not want to see a future of permanent Zombie Apocalypse Mask wearing folk because of this. I like to see peoples faces and a smile when appropriate.

When will it end?

When can we go back to normal?
100% this! However whenever people bring up the possibility that world governments have just ballsed this up, everyone else reverts to "oooo tin foil hat"

The government is far too retarded to even begin to try and speculate about a conspiracy level event. Just look at trying to create a "world beating" app FFS.

This is a balls up, its embarrassing now, and watch as the governments of the world try to weasel out of it whilst trying to maintain some kind of integrity.
I dont think anyone would disagree with you that the govt is retarted..which is what makes it so easy for the WHO/Imperial college/CDC etc to panic them into ridiculous decisions.. contrary to what a lot of people say certain people heavily influence those institutions...i would also disagree that the govts are trying to weasel out of this mess..they seem to keep adding more confidence sapping measures everyday...


Edited by kayc on Wednesday 2nd September 09:13

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

62 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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monkfish1 said:
paulw123 said:
Alucidnation said:
What a total joke. I don’t have kids but if I did and they were at that school, they wouldn’t be going.
Somewhat inevitable. Having pushed the decision down to headteachers, some will decide to do this to cover their backside. Once a few have it, it will snowball and they will all do it. No headteacher will want to be seen as an outlier and be "killing children". Throw in a few school closures because "cases", and by month end it will be all schools. Just in time for them to be made mandatory for everyone else everywhere sometime in october. Just as i predicted.

What i dont understand is people who cannot or will not see the direction of travel. Making it headteachers responsibility could only ever have one outcome.
Bang on. This is exactly how I see things going. Govt are a bunch of weasels, they should have kept the advice specifically *not* to have masks in schools.

paulguitar

23,444 posts

113 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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grumbledoak said:
RDMcG said:
well..coming to the end of volume 1 and could summarize a lot of the discussion as below,see on on another thread:
How would you summarize your own contributions?
I think RDMcG has made some excellent, considered, logical points here.



Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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paulguitar said:
grumbledoak said:
RDMcG said:
well..coming to the end of volume 1 and could summarize a lot of the discussion as below,see on on another thread:
How would you summarize your own contributions?
I think RDMcG has made some excellent, considered, logical points here.
Conceivably. The bingo card would not be one of them however.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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At this rate we will have another 3 or 4 volumes to argue on, as it's very unlikely that masks will be dropped until May/June of 2021 (based on the law being in place for 12 months).


grumbledoak

31,536 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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xjay1337 said:
At this rate we will have another 3 or 4 volumes to argue on, as it's very unlikely that masks will be dropped until May/June of 2021 (based on the law being in place for 12 months).
yes It's all going to be really unpleasant until everyone gets the vaccine.

We were told this in April.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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grumbledoak said:
xjay1337 said:
At this rate we will have another 3 or 4 volumes to argue on, as it's very unlikely that masks will be dropped until May/June of 2021 (based on the law being in place for 12 months).
yes It's all going to be really unpleasant until everyone gets the vaccine.

We were told this in April.
I am genuinely worried what this "vaccine" will look like , will this COVIPASS thing become real? Will it be mandatory? And so on..

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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grumbledoak said:
yes It's all going to be really unpleasant until everyone gets the vaccine.

We were told this in April.
The sense of social disapproval to non wearers is intense in any setting where mass wearing of masks is mandated.

Let that become ingrained over the next 12 months and it will become a permanent fixture of life.

If they really want to punish us they could mandate the vaccine while not rescinding the masks.

djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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xjay1337 said:
I am genuinely worried what this "vaccine" will look like , will this COVIPASS thing become real? Will it be mandatory? And so on..
Why would they bother making it mandatory and having that fight over human rights etc? Enough people will get it that they won’t need to.

I will be getting the vaccine, I’m 100% certain that many countries, particularly the ones I like to frequently visit, will be making it a condition of entry so I won’t have much choice and even if that weren’t the case I’d still get it. The hysteria over vaccines is quite ridiculous IMHO.

I can’t see a covipass or anything similar becoming a thing in the UK for day to day life, we’ve not bothered to make vaccines mandatory for proper diseases so why bother with Covid?

grumbledoak

31,536 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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xjay1337 said:
I am genuinely worried what this "vaccine" will look like , will this COVIPASS thing become real? Will it be mandatory? And so on..
I wouldn't worry. I don't think you are going to get much choice in how this all pans out.


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