Great article; Petrolicious up for sale
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IanH755 said:
Just another reason why Business owners should stay away from any form of Social Media. It just takes one person high up to make a comment that a small but vocal minority doesn't like, and everything the owner and their staff have worked hard on over the years is ruined in an instant.
It should be a warning to everyone - don't say what you actually feel, EVER, because "they" will try to cancel you if what you say differs from "their" viewpoint, regardless of whether "they" are Left or Right. Everyone is a target now, everyone.
Isn't modern life wonderful!
Doesn't matter if you say it or notIt should be a warning to everyone - don't say what you actually feel, EVER, because "they" will try to cancel you if what you say differs from "their" viewpoint, regardless of whether "they" are Left or Right. Everyone is a target now, everyone.
Isn't modern life wonderful!
Remember now silence is violence.
If you are not actively promoting it you are against it and they will come for you.
If you are promoting they will still come for you but it will take longer.
IanH755 said:
Just another reason why Business owners should stay away from any form of Social Media. It just takes one person high up to make a comment that a small but vocal minority doesn't like, and everything the owner and their staff have worked hard on over the years is ruined in an instant.
It should be a warning to everyone - don't say what you actually feel, EVER, because "they" will try to cancel you if what you say differs from "their" viewpoint, regardless of whether "they" are Left or Right. Everyone is a target now, everyone.
Isn't modern life wonderful!
Personally I prefer saying what I feel but not being a racist bellend but whatever works for you I suppose.It should be a warning to everyone - don't say what you actually feel, EVER, because "they" will try to cancel you if what you say differs from "their" viewpoint, regardless of whether "they" are Left or Right. Everyone is a target now, everyone.
Isn't modern life wonderful!
anonymous said:
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err the two Tweets linked to on this thread weren't racist.One was pointing out that BLM is an extreme organisation, which even the likes of the MSM are starting to concede. I wouldn't go so far as to describe them as "terrorist" but some of their supporters have committed acts of violence.
The other was an anti-abortion tweet.
If there have been other messages that were racist then that that is a different matter of course.
anonymous said:
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Just reread the Bloomberg article and they reference the same two Tweets linked too.
BLM IS an extreme organisation. It wants to disband the police and bring down capitalism. It is an exaggeration to say it is a terrorist group, but many of its supporters have committed violent acts. Most recently gunning down a young mother who told a group of BLM activists "all lives matter".
If all the evidence for his "racist" views is opposing BLM then you haven't got any evidence, no mental gymnastics required.
As another poster said he brought it on himself by thinking that any public figure can speak what they believe.
There was also the faceberk posts about Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks that were labeled with Facebook’s “False Information” graphic.
This summed up the mag etc well. 'Petrolicious has been the gold standard for visual automotive car porn content and features stunning and rare cars along with inspiring owners and personalities, presented in lavishly filmed and lovingly edit videos.'
This summed up the mag etc well. 'Petrolicious has been the gold standard for visual automotive car porn content and features stunning and rare cars along with inspiring owners and personalities, presented in lavishly filmed and lovingly edit videos.'
anonymous said:
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That is the exact same two tweets we have just been talking about referenced in the first article. One is against the organisation BLM and the other is an anti-abortion Tweet and your second link doesn't work.Just to be clear that if he has been making racist remarks, or things that could be reasonably be assumed to be racist remarks, then people are correct to call him a racist.
Opposing BLM the organisation and abortion doesn't make him a racist.
Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 15th July 09:08
anonymous said:
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And the second tweet is an example of someone using BLM to attack abortion. Now you may be pro-life, or pro-choice, but querying why black lives dont appear to matter to many if they are still in the womb isn't an example of racism. You appear to believe that if anyone doesn't embrace the latest radical left wing cause of the day they are automatically racist.
anonymous said:
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I see you're ignoring other aspects of the Bloomberg report - the Facebook post of his which got labelled by FB as 'False Information' , for example.And you still can't tell the difference between supporting the basic principle of the BLM movement and supporting every suggestion of one of the BLM organisations. Something most people manage to differentiate between, even Afshin himself, with the statement "I absolutely realize that my poorly worded post was also divisive and did not acknowledge the good people of the [BLM] movement and their positive contributions,”
rscott said:
I see you're ignoring other aspects of the Bloomberg report - the Facebook post of his which got labelled by FB as 'False Information' , for example.
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Perhaps if there were more information about it I could look at it. All we have had provided in evidence so far is two Tweets and a link to Quora answers that do indeed seem to prove he is a conservative Republican but don't appear to contain any racist remarks. At least in the top answers coming up on the list.,
rscott said:
And you still can't tell the difference between supporting the basic principle of the BLM movement and supporting every suggestion of one of the BLM organisations. Something most people manage to differentiate between, even Afshin himself, with the statement "I absolutely realize that my poorly worded post was also divisive and did not acknowledge the good people of the [BLM] movement and their positive contributions,”
Supporting the basic principle of the BLM seems fairly easy consisting as it is of the suggestion that Black people shouldn't be murdered by the police. BLM as an organisation is dedicated to the overthrow of capitalism, disbanding the police and abolishing the nuclear family. If you are opposed to those policies you should be free to oppose the organisation named BLM. Except of course if you are a public figure because then you will get hounded out of your job/livelihood by people who equate opposing neo Marxism with racism. JagLover said:
rscott said:
I see you're ignoring other aspects of the Bloomberg report - the Facebook post of his which got labelled by FB as 'False Information' , for example.
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Perhaps if there were more information about it I could look at it. All we have had provided in evidence so far is two Tweets and a link to Quora answers that do indeed seem to prove he is a conservative Republican but don't appear to contain any racist remarks. At least in the top answers coming up on the list.,
rscott said:
And you still can't tell the difference between supporting the basic principle of the BLM movement and supporting every suggestion of one of the BLM organisations. Something most people manage to differentiate between, even Afshin himself, with the statement "I absolutely realize that my poorly worded post was also divisive and did not acknowledge the good people of the [BLM] movement and their positive contributions,”
Supporting the basic principle of the BLM seems fairly easy consisting as it is of the suggestion that Black people shouldn't be murdered by the police. BLM as an organisation is dedicated to the overthrow of capitalism, disbanding the police and abolishing the nuclear family. If you are opposed to those policies you should be free to oppose the organisation named BLM. Except of course if you are a public figure because then you will get hounded out of your job/livelihood by people who equate opposing neo Marxism with racism. By your 'logic', I believe you've said you voted Conservative last election. Therefore that must mean you support all their policies and decisions without question.
rscott said:
From the Bloomberg article, as you seem to be incapable of reading it.
Finally getting somewhereSo the claim was that only Trump, Ali and Rosa Parks had won a medal for "work within the black community" When in fact there had been many recipients and for a variety of different causes.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/19/...
Gotcha. Why does him falling for this "fake news" make him a racist?.
You see some of the posters on here seem to think that the mere accusation is proof enough.
rscott said:
By your 'logic', I believe you've said you voted Conservative last election. Therefore that must mean you support all their policies and decisions without question.
Well I supported most of their policies. Someone saying they support BLM the organisation would be assumed to back many of them as well. If you are not happy with the policies they propose maybe stop backing them?, and stop attacking those people pointing out what they actually stand for. JagLover said:
rscott said:
From the Bloomberg article, as you seem to be incapable of reading it.
Finally getting somewhereSo the claim was that only Trump, Ali and Rosa Parks had won a medal for "work within the black community" When in fact there had been many recipients and for a variety of different causes.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/19/...
Gotcha. Why does him falling for this "fake news" make him a racist?.
You see some of the posters on here seem to think that the mere accusation is proof enough.
rscott said:
By your 'logic', I believe you've said you voted Conservative last election. Therefore that must mean you support all their policies and decisions without question.
Well I supported most of their policies. Someone saying they support BLM the organisation would be assumed to back many of them as well. If you are not happy with the policies they propose maybe stop backing them and stop attacking those people pointing out what they actually stand for. He called the BLM movement, not organisation, domestic terrorists. Something he's since admitted to have been a mistake.
But using your logic, you must support all Conservative policies if you support the party, there is no room to pick and choose.
voyds9 said:
IanH755 said:
Just another reason why Business owners should stay away from any form of Social Media. It just takes one person high up to make a comment that a small but vocal minority doesn't like, and everything the owner and their staff have worked hard on over the years is ruined in an instant.
It should be a warning to everyone - don't say what you actually feel, EVER, because "they" will try to cancel you if what you say differs from "their" viewpoint, regardless of whether "they" are Left or Right. Everyone is a target now, everyone.
Isn't modern life wonderful!
Doesn't matter if you say it or notIt should be a warning to everyone - don't say what you actually feel, EVER, because "they" will try to cancel you if what you say differs from "their" viewpoint, regardless of whether "they" are Left or Right. Everyone is a target now, everyone.
Isn't modern life wonderful!
Remember now silence is violence.
If you are not actively promoting it you are against it and they will come for you.
If you are promoting they will still come for you but it will take longer.
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