Refugees / Asylum seekers crossing the channel

Refugees / Asylum seekers crossing the channel

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Biggy Stardust

6,932 posts

45 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
Bit different from a council house and benefits though.

Yes but nobody actually said they receive those, did they?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Biggy Stardust said:
Yes but nobody actually said they receive those, did they?
I guess your glasses must be steamed up, it was a few posts above yours, and the reason I replied., but to help you out here it is again, verbatim.

jim barin said:
... and because of that we should give them a free council house and benefits.
p.s what was your last username?


PRTVR

7,121 posts

222 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
jim barin said:
Asylum seekers?

More like migrants looking for the best handouts - these people have paid out tens of thouands of pounds to get across Europe and still have as much as £10,000 to buy a place on a boat bringing illegals into the UK. We have actually had uber liberal lawyers moaning on camera that these migrants have sold all their possessions and borrowed heavily to get into Britian illegally and because of that we should give them a free council house and benefits. Time to deport the uber liberal lawyers along with the illegals.
How does an illegal immigrant get a council house and benifits.

Your answer can't include , because the Dailymail told me.
Logically they will not stay in hotels for ever, they will have to be given a roof over their heads along with money for food, where will the roof come from ?, unless Gary Lineker is going to house them all, they will end up in council properties, predominantly in the north where properties are cheap , where do you presume they will end up and find money to feed themselves?

coolg

650 posts

47 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Yes but nobody actually said they receive those, did they?
I guess your glasses must be steamed up, it was a few posts above yours, and the reason I replied., but to help you out here it is again, verbatim.

jim barin said:
... and because of that we should give them a free council house and benefits.
p.s what was your last username?
Is that selective quoting....

He said there are Uber liberal lawyers saying they should get a free council house and benefits.

Doesn’t mean they have got them.

166 MM Barchetta

693 posts

58 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
jim barin said:
Asylum seekers?

More like migrants looking for the best handouts - these people have paid out tens of thouands of pounds to get across Europe and still have as much as £10,000 to buy a place on a boat bringing illegals into the UK. We have actually had uber liberal lawyers moaning on camera that these migrants have sold all their possessions and borrowed heavily to get into Britian illegally and because of that we should give them a free council house and benefits. Time to deport the uber liberal lawyers along with the illegals.
How does an illegal immigrant get a council house and benifits.

Your answer can't include , because the Dailymail told me.
Are you asking the poster, or the lawyer?
Did the trigger go before you digested the post....

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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When the boats first started to arrive we were told by some that this wasn’t a big deal as the numbers were so small. However we’ve had at least 7000 migrants arrive by that route so far this year and we are only 3/4 of the way through the year. That’s 3 x the total number of arrivals in 2019.

Wonder how high the numbers can go?

Murph7355

37,761 posts

257 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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BlackLabel said:
When the boats first started to arrive we were told by some that this wasn’t a big deal as the numbers were so small. However we’ve had at least 7000 migrants arrive by that route so far this year and we are only 3/4 of the way through the year. That’s 3 x the total number of arrivals in 2019.

Wonder how high the numbers can go?
How fast can Crevit produce dinghies? smile

Unknown_User

7,150 posts

93 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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BlackLabel said:
When the boats first started to arrive we were told by some that this wasn’t a big deal as the numbers were so small. However we’ve had at least 7000 migrants arrive by that route so far this year and we are only 3/4 of the way through the year. That’s 3 x the total number of arrivals in 2019.

Wonder how high the numbers can go?
How many country's can we sell our arms to and meddle in their internal politics?


BrundanBianchi

1,106 posts

46 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Murph7355 said:
How fast can Crevit produce dinghies? smile
Priti Vacant has a plan. Ship the lot of them off to St.Helena and some other rock in the middle of the Atlantic. Let’s not kid ourselves that the majority of these illegals are being bombed out of their countries. Those people tend to not have the finances to pay the smuggling gangs. The majority of the illegals who make it here, are well financed, and not what most normal people would classify as a worthy asylum seeker. If they were, they’d claim asylum in the first place they arrived, not try and travel through several countries, then attempt to enter Britain illegally.


Edited by BrundanBianchi on Monday 5th October 14:57

Condi

17,251 posts

172 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Biggy Stardust said:
Unknown_User said:
An asylum seeker is welcome to refuge in the UK be they a doctor or a labourer. To suggest we start sorting refugee's into 'useful' or 'not useful' groups is beyond abhorrent.
How do you feel about the Australian points system?
Australia's points system isn't used for asylum seekers, but instead for economic migrants to get a visa to live and work there.


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Condi said:
Australia's points system isn't used for asylum seekers, but instead for economic migrants to get a visa to live and work there.
But it does sort people into useful and not useful, at least from a 'stralian economic perspective.

Murph7355

37,761 posts

257 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Sam.M said:
Condi said:
Australia's points system isn't used for asylum seekers, but instead for economic migrants to get a visa to live and work there.
But it does sort people into useful and not useful, at least from a 'stralian economic perspective.
Asylum seekers are a fundamentally different category of immigrant. And most people here are, I would think, perfectly open to genuine asylum seekers.

As someone else noted above, those paying large sums of money are highly unlikely to be genuine asylum seekers. They are illegal immigrants.

Condi

17,251 posts

172 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Sam.M said:
Condi said:
Australia's points system isn't used for asylum seekers, but instead for economic migrants to get a visa to live and work there.
But it does sort people into useful and not useful, at least from a 'stralian economic perspective.
Yes, but is totally irrelevant to this discussion on refugees and asylum seekers. We do the same (or will do from 1st January).

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Yes, that is the knife edge upon which we are walking.

Murph7355

37,761 posts

257 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Sam.M said:
Yes, that is the knife edge upon which we are walking.
What knife edge?

They are clearly two different sides of a line and should be treated as such by all concerned.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Murph7355 said:
Sam.M said:
Yes, that is the knife edge upon which we are walking.
What knife edge?

They are clearly two different sides of a line and should be treated as such by all concerned.
The knife edge that is an honest discussion around asylum seeker vs economic migrant. The demographics often suggest the latter over the former.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Murph7355 said:
Sam.M said:
Condi said:
Australia's points system isn't used for asylum seekers, but instead for economic migrants to get a visa to live and work there.
But it does sort people into useful and not useful, at least from a 'stralian economic perspective.
Asylum seekers are a fundamentally different category of immigrant. And most people here are, I would think, perfectly open to genuine asylum seekers.

As someone else noted above, those paying large sums of money are highly unlikely to be genuine asylum seekers. They are illegal immigrants.
Absolutely true and something few on this thread want to believe. It's far easier to label all detractors as racist xenophobes. In my opinion anyone genuine will have some way of identifying their origin. I appreciate a few genuine people may be caught up in the red tape but a system must be robust with no loop holes. I would think ID, photos, papers, anything of that nature to be critically important and to turn up via an illegal channel with nothing should result in your return to where we are 90% sure you came from.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Don't worry the Tories have got a handle on it, wave machines and oil rigs at the ready.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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A plan to disable dinghies with nets? Good luck with that one Commander.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8827449/M...

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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BlackLabel said:
A plan to disable dinghies with nets? Good luck with that one Commander.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8827449/M...
The article states 300 attempted boat arrivals per day. Can that be even remotely accurate?