Refugees / Asylum seekers crossing the channel

Refugees / Asylum seekers crossing the channel

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Mrr T

12,235 posts

265 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Dog Star said:
Mrr T said:
You do understand people can be bilingual?
I used to work in my local job centre. Most (all?) of the older Asian people who came in - people who had been here decades - did not speak English.
Possible but the poster was claiming 3rd generation immigrants still did not speak English. I would find that doubtful.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Dog Star said:
I used to work in my local job centre. Most (all?) of the older Asian people who came in - people who had been here decades - did not speak English.
Yes, but many of the women are larger due to the deep fried food culture. Is that why you took the job our resident bbw lover? hehe

Big-Bo-Beep

884 posts

54 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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All this unfettered invasion by stealth will end when we [ eventually ] leave the EU, or so many think.

As we speak there are nice Somali families saving up to pay a shady character a few grand to get them to
England and a nice flat in Balham [ gateway to the south ]

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Mrr T said:
Possible but the poster was claiming 3rd generation immigrants still did not speak English. I would find that doubtful.
The people I am talking about had been here since the sixties (it’s ten years ago) and would have had grandchildren.

TCX

1,976 posts

55 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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hyphen said:
Earthdweller said:
There are third generation immigrant British citizens that do not speak English
Not many of them surely, seeing as schooling is compulsory...
Lol have you ever been in any predominantly Indian/Pakistan/Asian 'communities'?
Obviously not English is a foreign language in many parts of this country n even OAP's can't speak it,interpreters for construction site inductions?yes

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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TCX said:
Lol have you ever been in any predominantly Indian/Pakistan/Asian 'communities'?
Obviously not English is a foreign language in many parts of this country n even OAP's can't speak it,interpreters for construction site inductions?yes
Yes.

I am well aware that many households only watch Sky channels of TV feeds from their home country. But that doesn't mean the mentioned 3rd generation can't speak innit-english.

Edited by hyphen on Saturday 22 August 12:47

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39,895 posts

196 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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TCX said:
Lol have you ever been in any predominantly Indian/Pakistan/Asian 'communities'?
Obviously not English is a foreign language in many parts of this country n even OAP's can't speak it,interpreters for construction site inductions?yes
You say "Even OAP's can't speak it". It's only OAP's that don't speak it, (or possibly those who have migrated here recently and haven't done their Citizenship test yet)

Out of interest how many OAPs are working on construction sites?

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39,895 posts

196 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Dog Star said:
Mrr T said:
Possible but the poster was claiming 3rd generation immigrants still did not speak English. I would find that doubtful.
The people I am talking about had been here since the sixties (it’s ten years ago) and would have had grandchildren.
If they've been here since the 60's

1. They're highly unlikely to be 3rd generation immigrants
2. They're highly unlikely to have gone through the UK education system

Earthdweller

13,554 posts

126 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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TCX said:
Lol have you ever been in any predominantly Indian/Pakistan/Asian 'communities'?
Obviously not English is a foreign language in many parts of this country n even OAP's can't speak it,interpreters for construction site inductions?yes
Is that a question for me ?

768

13,681 posts

96 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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OddCat said:
dai1983 said:
Reasons are out there on various sites and I've posted the following on the various threads:

-English language
-relatives already here
-tolerant and stable society
So France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Holland etc are not.

Blimey, no wonder we wanted to leave the EU. Bloody good job too by the sounds of it.
Certainly the asylum seeker who drowned in the Channel the other day seems to have left France because they rejected his application.

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Historically why would they have learned English ?

There was no pressure from governments and we lay on translators and literature for free.

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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768 said:
Certainly the asylum seeker who drowned in the Channel the other day seems to have left France because they rejected his application.
Because he wasn’t an asylum seeker but an economic migrant ?

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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hyphen said:
markcoznottz said:
PositronicRay said:
Easier to work and live, under the radar.
Bingo. Maybe the French don’t like getting thier cars washed and eating cheap takeaways?.
Why would it be easer in the UK to work than France?

If anyone did want to work long term in the shadow economy, wouldn't Greece/Spain/Italy etc be preferred? As they have huge tax dodging cultures.
The tax dodging in the countries you listed is usually family owned businesses taking cash I think. The (lets call it what it is) casual slave labour industry in the U.K. is bigger and easy to find work.

BrundanBianchi

1,106 posts

45 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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coolg said:
Because he wasn’t an asylum seeker but an economic migrant ?
Possibly because he didn’t know his date of birth. That would be an issue when filling in forms.

don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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BrundanBianchi said:
coolg said:
Because he wasn’t an asylum seeker but an economic migrant ?
Possibly because he didn’t know his date of birth. That would be an issue when filling in forms.
Yet the French authorities knew he was 28.

Philippe Sabatier, Boulogne-sur-Mer’s deputy public prosecutor, said a travel document being carried by Mr Hamdallah gave his age as 28.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/su...

OddCat

2,528 posts

171 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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How do the French differentiate between migrants they are going to 'process' and those they are not?

Presumably, they put the former into nice hotels?

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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I would assume the process the ones that claim asylum, those that don’t appear to live illegally

OddCat

2,528 posts

171 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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coolg said:
I would assume the process the ones that claim asylum, those that don’t appear to (be allowed to) live illegally
FTFY

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Been keeping an eye on this for quite a while, it does seem that we are a dumping ground for these people as are other Euro nations, I have seen countless videos and also seen first and the mobs of them hanging around near certain coastal port towns in France, chasing after lorries.

Destitute they do not look, desperate for money, to get to the promised land where they will receive all they want for free they do look.

We are not equipped to deal with it quite honestly and politicians can huff and puff all they want, investment in border force and a change in the law is what is required. You will never stop it in reality the crossing is too short and the coast in both coasts is too wide.

Most of them see to fit a profile, young men, certain age, certain countries they come from, Iran, Eritrea, Sudan etc. And the point has to be made if you are seeking asylum you will likely stop at the first port of call, not travel through several countries, mainly coz your mate who got here years ago told you it was great, that is not asylum it is economic illegal migration, and with all that's going on, the cost must be horrific in places like Kent

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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OddCat said:
coolg said:
I would assume the process the ones that claim asylum, those that don’t appear to (be allowed to) live illegally
FTFY
France stop people from claiming asylum ? I doubt that