Refugees / Asylum seekers crossing the channel

Refugees / Asylum seekers crossing the channel

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Chainsaw Rebuild

2,006 posts

102 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Biggy Stardust said:
A potential solution is for them to go back home.
Agreed, I have often thought perhaps asylum seekers should be here until its safe for them to return home, and then they get returned home.

Unknown_User

7,150 posts

92 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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BlackLabel said:
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Digga

40,324 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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BlackLabel said:
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If you stopped frothing like a fanny, there are some important points there.

First and perhaps most important is the fact that Farage's stance being to rescue these migrants might shut some of the more swivel eyed bigots he can sometimes pander to. That all migrants, legal or otherwise, are also human beings is an important distinction.

Second, his criticism of the Border force highlights a worrying lack of preparedness which , as he says, could cost lives. That it was the RNLI that finally got the two to safety is telling and unfortunate.

Unknown_User

7,150 posts

92 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Digga said:
Unknown_User said:
BlackLabel said:
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If you stopped frothing like a fanny, there are some important points there.

First and perhaps most important is the fact that Farage's stance being to rescue these migrants might shut some of the more swivel eyed bigots he can sometimes pander to. That all migrants, legal or otherwise, are also human beings is an important distinction.

Second, his criticism of the Border force highlights a worrying lack of preparedness which , as he says, could cost lives. That it was the RNLI that finally got the two to safety is telling and unfortunate.
Christ on a bike..... where to start....????

Do you really think faarange 'rescued' those poor folk so the "more swivel eyed bigots" will be silenced? Or as a simple pound shop publicity stunt?

And have you addressed your supposed "worrying lack of preparedness" with the current inept tory government?

Please, I thought you had a bit more about you than pandering to our pound shop populist!

The state of it.....

Digga

40,324 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Unknown_User said:
Digga said:
Unknown_User said:
BlackLabel said:
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If you stopped frothing like a fanny, there are some important points there.

First and perhaps most important is the fact that Farage's stance being to rescue these migrants might shut some of the more swivel eyed bigots he can sometimes pander to. That all migrants, legal or otherwise, are also human beings is an important distinction.

Second, his criticism of the Border force highlights a worrying lack of preparedness which , as he says, could cost lives. That it was the RNLI that finally got the two to safety is telling and unfortunate.
Christ on a bike..... where to start....????

Do you really think faarange 'rescued' those poor folk so the "more swivel eyed bigots" will be silenced? Or as a simple pound shop publicity stunt?

And have you addressed your supposed "worrying lack of preparedness" with the current inept tory government?

Please, I thought you had a bit more about you than pandering to our pound shop populist!

The state of it.....
the trouble too many seem to grasp is even a poundshop populist is useful on occasion if he makes a valid point. I would hope that his attitude to this might temper the sort of take a more heartless stance to immigration.

Farage never said he rescued them, but the fishing boat/party he was (allegedly) with most definitely were, as confirmed by the RNLI, responsible for calling in the rescue.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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It seems nothing much has changed in 2021. Last weekend at least 160 people successfully crossed over. If those are the figures for a freezing January weekend then spring and summer is going to be fun for the border force.


https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-crossings-at-le...

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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BlackLabel said:
It seems nothing much has changed in 2021. Last weekend at least 160 people successfully crossed over. If those are the figures for a freezing January weekend then spring and summer is going to be fun for the border force.


https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-crossings-at-le...
So where do they go after they are processed. Surely they can’t live in hotels indefinitely. Anyone?

PRTVR

7,108 posts

221 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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markcoznottz said:
BlackLabel said:
It seems nothing much has changed in 2021. Last weekend at least 160 people successfully crossed over. If those are the figures for a freezing January weekend then spring and summer is going to be fun for the border force.


https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-crossings-at-le...
So where do they go after they are processed. Surely they can’t live in hotels indefinitely. Anyone?
They go missing, according to the home office 37000, equivalent to the population of Redcar.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9071783/H...

mdw

332 posts

274 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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vindaloo79 said:
I can imagine parachuting so many people in such large numbers is going to leave a lot of males seeking relationships/partners (with women having a similar outlook on life)who just aren’t there for them. That isn’t going to end well.
I remember talking to one Eritrean we looked after as a foster "child". He said he would only marry a good Eritrean girl as she would do what she was told to do and take care of him. It quite upset him when I pointed out that out of 30-40 eritreans we had met over 18 months not one refugee was female. Also that after a few years living in the Uk any that did come to the UK might have slightly different values and ideas than they did at home. The Eritreans had probabaly the most western ideas of life of all the refugees we had but quite a few of their views were a loooooong way from what would be classed as the norm or ok over here.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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I expect most disappear into the black market economy, somehow find the required papers some might go elsewhere and use UK as a way of getting the the States, though quite how I dont know.

There will be no stopping it, it's too easy, and too much of a carrot to dangle at men (largely) with nothing else who ony want to come here, the only way to stop it is to have a no quibbles send them back policy and all they need to say is I was escaping war and they get to stay. It's pretty simple.

They all need housing, jobs, health, they will eventually bring family, they need schooling, it's unstoppable.

Word of mouth travels fast even more so these days with phones etc, they find a community and are set for life

Condi

17,195 posts

171 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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mdw said:
He said he would only marry a good Eritrean girl as she would do what she was told to do and take care of him.
Probably to a lesser extent but I know 25 year old guys in Spain with the same attitude. hehe And to be fair, they're not wrong; Spanish women do generally look after their men as their mothers did with their fathers.

over_the_hill

3,188 posts

246 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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BlackLabel said:
Which perfectly highlights how much of a soft touch we are considered to be.
In France - a free democratic country - so no fear of execution for political or religious views.
No danger of being killed in a civil war, yet still risk their lives trying to cross the channel in
December to get to the promised land.

There was a reason D-Day was in June, and even back then they had better boats.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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BlackLabel said:
It’s that cold and wet I don’t even want to leave the house, let alone go out on the sea.

France must be really bad

over_the_hill

3,188 posts

246 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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mrporsche said:
BlackLabel said:
It’s that cold and wet I don’t even want to leave the house, let alone go out on the sea.

France must be really bad
I doubt if you would last for long if you ended up in the water.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
I expect most disappear into the black market economy, somehow find the required papers some might go elsewhere and use UK as a way of getting the the States, though quite how I dont know.

There will be no stopping it, it's too easy, and too much of a carrot to dangle at men (largely) with nothing else who ony want to come here, the only way to stop it is to have a no quibbles send them back policy and all they need to say is I was escaping war and they get to stay. It's pretty simple.

They all need housing, jobs, health, they will eventually bring family, they need schooling, it's unstoppable.

Word of mouth travels fast even more so these days with phones etc, they find a community and are set for life
Soft touch as U.K. as usual then. Although spending 14 hours a day at a hand car wash in winter is no joke. I’m not sure if that’s much of a life. Update. Just been talking to someone who supplies hand car wash, he says a lot of workers are ‘going home’? I’m guessing most are completely unemployable elsewhere.

Digga

40,324 posts

283 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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over_the_hill said:
mrporsche said:
BlackLabel said:
It’s that cold and wet I don’t even want to leave the house, let alone go out on the sea.

France must be really bad
I doubt if you would last for long if you ended up in the water.
IIRC the consensus is about 10 minutes in the channel in winter. Assuming you aren’t run over by another vessel - it’s very busy in places.

Matt p

1,039 posts

208 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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Some cracking sunrises along the journey though. This was taken in Jan 19 while taking a break from working on the centrif’s.

BryanC

1,107 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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No wonder.


danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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And then they get here and complain about being housed in lovely brick barracks that have been done up for them.

I wonder if they'll be fined £10k like UK citizens are being threatened with...