Refugees / Asylum seekers crossing the channel

[unident]

All murders are tragic. None of them should happen. However, is your point that only refugees can commit murders? It’s just that I’m sure there have been a large number just this year carried out by U.K. citizens.

Edited by chris.mod on Thursday 1st April 20:10

[Mrr T]

Your right it only takes one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-5...

Or two.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-56581835

Or three.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-5...

Let's send all those Met police officers back where they came from.

Edited by chris.mod on Thursday 1st April 20:11

[davhill]

Mrr T said:

Your right it only takes one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-5...

Or two.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-56581835

Or three.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-5...

Let's send all those Met police officers back where they came from.

I am sure the restless spirit of poor Ms. Cox is tittering at your shaft of wit.
Perhaps you should take the knee for her. After all, white lives matter - or not?

[davhill]

unident said:

All murders are tragic. None of them should happen. However, is your point that only refugees can commit murders? It’s just that I’m sure there have been a large number just this year carried out by U.K. citizens.

That wasn't my point - and you know it.

[unident]

davhill said:

That wasn't my point - and you know it.

What was it then? Be explicit as there’s no reason not to be.

[davhill]

unident said:

What was it then? Be explicit as there’s no reason not to be.

Isn't it obvious?

On the one hand hand we have...

Azam Mangori 24, an Iraqi Kurd who was denied asylum in December 2018,
told the court he had panicked because he feared being deported.
Prosecutor Simon Laws QC called Mangori a "fluent and determined liar"

...then we have...

Lorraine Cox, 32, was killed in Exeter on 1 September.
Ms Cox's family described her as "the most kind-hearted, loving, generous girl",
adding she was "the heartbeat of our family".

I'm sure you can fill in the point all by yourself.

[Condi]

davhill said:

Isn't it obvious?

On the one hand hand we have...

Azam Mangori 24, an Iraqi Kurd who was denied asylum in December 2018,
told the court he had panicked because he feared being deported.
Prosecutor Simon Laws QC called Mangori a "fluent and determined liar"

...then we have...

Lorraine Cox, 32, was killed in Exeter on 1 September.
Ms Cox's family described her as "the most kind-hearted, loving, generous girl",
adding she was "the heartbeat of our family".

I'm sure you can fill in the point all by yourself.

Not sure I can....

More murders are committed by people legally allowed to be here - ie born here, EU migrant, legally given leave to stay etc - than are committed by people not allowed to be here.

People kill people. Migrants don't kill people.

So what point were you making?

[unident]

davhill said:

unident said:

What was it then? Be explicit as there’s no reason not to be.

Isn't it obvious?

On the one hand hand we have...

Azam Mangori 24, an Iraqi Kurd who was denied asylum in December 2018,
told the court he had panicked because he feared being deported.
Prosecutor Simon Laws QC called Mangori a "fluent and determined liar"

...then we have...

Lorraine Cox, 32, was killed in Exeter on 1 September.
Ms Cox's family described her as "the most kind-hearted, loving, generous girl",
adding she was "the heartbeat of our family".

I'm sure you can fill in the point all by yourself.

Nope. You’re still dancing around saying what you really mean. It’s not at all obvious.

Say it explicitly.

[vulture1]

Condi said:

davhill said:

Isn't it obvious?

On the one hand hand we have...

Azam Mangori 24, an Iraqi Kurd who was denied asylum in December 2018,
told the court he had panicked because he feared being deported.
Prosecutor Simon Laws QC called Mangori a "fluent and determined liar"

...then we have...

Lorraine Cox, 32, was killed in Exeter on 1 September.
Ms Cox's family described her as "the most kind-hearted, loving, generous girl",
adding she was "the heartbeat of our family".

I'm sure you can fill in the point all by yourself.

Not sure I can....

More murders are committed by people legally allowed to be here - ie born here, EU migrant, legally given leave to stay etc - than are committed by people not allowed to be here.

People kill people. Migrants don't kill people.

So what point were you making?

What about as a percentage of people? Would be interesting to know that.

[unident]

vulture1 said:

What about as a percentage of people? Would be interesting to know that.

Do some research, you’ll probably be disappointed so won’t post up your results.

[vulture1]

unident said:

vulture1 said:

What about as a percentage of people? Would be interesting to know that.

Do some research, you’ll probably be disappointed so won’t post up your results.

I asked a question. If it comes back statistically less then great.

[unident]

vulture1 said:

I asked a question. If it comes back statistically less then great.

Here’s one to really mess with your head. A number of British & Irish citizens were sentenced to long jail terms over the deaths of these illegal immigrants. That’s a large chunk of the deaths for last year.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-55765213

[unident]

aston80 said:

You're saying 65 million people (legally allowed to be here) commit more murders than (500,000?) illegals

Really? Who would have thought?!

Exactly, but davhill seems to think that the only murder ever committed was quite recently by a migrant. Or something like that, he seems very shy about what his point actually is for some reason. I wonder why?

[Condi]

aston80 said:

Really? Who would have thought?!

Indeed. But then referencing one person killed by an illegal migrant suggests that the bigger picture is somewhat lost on the person I quoted...

[Pan Pan Pan]

Having seen the parks containing all the confiscated inflatables. I wonder why the agencies charged with preventing these illegal crossings don't investigate the sale and supply of all these inflatable boats, and the expensive outboard kits they seem to be equipped with?
Having said that I wonder what the path to buying one of these boats from the border agency would be (Assuming they don't have to be kept indefinitely for legal / court cases etc, or have to be officially destroyed to prevent their re use etc) ?