If masks become compulsory in shops (Vol. 2)

[cjs racing.]

PF62 said:

My take is just to pity all those physically healthy individuals wearing lanyards who therefore must be exempt due to mental health issues, and then to ponder what traumatic event caused those big tough men to fear wearing a face covering for a few minutes.

3 years ago my brother took his life by hanging.

It was later shown he probably changed his mind, and fought to save himself.

Ever since I have real issues with things around my neck, or over my mouth, basically anything that even begins to possibly restrict breathing.

I can now only were polo tops, or shirts unbuttoned a long way, a T shirt renders me unable to breath.

I do hope that this is traumatic enough for you to forgive me for not wearing a mask.

Stop being so judgmental.

[anonymous-user]

Funny username said:

Or maybe people are visiting shops with deaf people who lip read? Do not be quick to dismiss “healthy” looking people.

Do you take pity on all the children who aren’t wearing masks too?

Genuinely, if you’re THAT concerned with people NOT wearing masks, I recommend you stay at home. Most supermarkets offer a delivery service now.

95% wear masks in shops etc & get on with life. A minor inconvenience.
Therefore it’s easier for those with genuine health problems, plus the inconsiderate pillocks, to stay away. Cheers.

[Thin White Duke]

Jimboka said:

95% wear masks in shops etc & get on with life. A minor inconvenience.
Therefore it’s easier for those with genuine health problems, plus the inconsiderate pillocks, to stay away. Cheers.

Will it be "just a minor inconvenience" if they are mandated outdoors? Or will you simply comply like a good citizen?

[stevensdrs]

https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises...

Exactly what I said at the start of this thread, a mask to stop a virus is like trying to hit a pea with a tennis racket. They are a waste of time, abhorrent in every way and I will not wear one . Given that they are useless you have to question the motivation of mandating them and the ever increasing mask creep.

[scottyp123]

I used to shop in Aldi but since this mask nonsense came in I switched to ASDA delivery. I still chanced going in the odd shop without one but it just seemed it was an excuse for people to flex their hi-viz type authority so I've not even bothered with any shops at all just lately. It must be a month now since I've stepped through the door of any sort of shop or pub now and I've not been inconvenienced in the slightest.

I've just done another order with ASDA and I was bemoaning how expensive it is compared to ALDI but with all the arguing over masks and lanyard this and exemtion that, you know what, its worth every penny, masks are but a distant memory for me now.

[scottyp123]

Alucidnation said:

scottyp123 said:

Alucidnation said:

That's a no then.

Cool.

Why dont you explain why he isn't a tt.

You are the one calling him a tt, so you should be able to give your reason(s).

I thought I had. Ok - hancock says everyone will die unless they take the most extreme methods possible to prevent it, he also says masks work. So if he believes what he says then why would he go anywhere without a mask, he would surely think he was killing himself or others which would be a massively tttish thing to do.

On the other hand, if he is just a two faced lying manipulative piece of st then that too would be tttish behaviour. Either way he is a tt.

[Cold]

According to official advice, masks are only supposed to stop you from spreading your Covid infected breath to others. So if you don't have Covid then they're pointless.
Therefore, if you need to wear a mask to stop you spreading your Covid around why are you even out of the house?

[PF62]

cjs racing. said:

PF62 said:

My take is just to pity all those physically healthy individuals wearing lanyards who therefore must be exempt due to mental health issues, and then to ponder what traumatic event caused those big tough men to fear wearing a face covering for a few minutes.

3 years ago my brother took his life by hanging.

It was later shown he probably changed his mind, and fought to save himself.

Ever since I have real issues with things around my neck, or over my mouth, basically anything that even begins to possibly restrict breathing.

I can now only were polo tops, or shirts unbuttoned a long way, a T shirt renders me unable to breath.

I do hope that this is traumatic enough for you to forgive me for not wearing a mask.

Stop being so judgmental.

You have my sympathy for your mental condition which prevents you wearing a face covering.

But I do find it quite surprising how many men suffer from a psychological issue which allows them to wear an exemption lanyard.

[dmahon]

I haven’t worn a mask once and don’t bother with a lanyard, though do keep one in my back pocket in case I’m ever in a bind.

I do this not because of health reasons, but because the science is extremely questionable, it’s an overreach by the state and the virus isn’t even harmful to 99.9% of the population. I do not believe because Handycock says so to be a justifiable reason a la Simon says.

I barely bother with shops, pubs etc mainly due to masks not a massive issue, but that’s my perspective as a healthy person with a lanyard.

Edited by dmahon on Wednesday 28th October 07:57

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PF62 said:

cjs racing. said:

PF62 said:

My take is just to pity all those physically healthy individuals wearing lanyards who therefore must be exempt due to mental health issues, and then to ponder what traumatic event caused those big tough men to fear wearing a face covering for a few minutes.

3 years ago my brother took his life by hanging.

It was later shown he probably changed his mind, and fought to save himself.

Ever since I have real issues with things around my neck, or over my mouth, basically anything that even begins to possibly restrict breathing.

I can now only were polo tops, or shirts unbuttoned a long way, a T shirt renders me unable to breath.

I do hope that this is traumatic enough for you to forgive me for not wearing a mask.

Stop being so judgmental.

You have my sympathy for your mental condition which prevents you wearing a face covering.

But I do find it quite surprising how many men suffer from a psychological issue which allows them to wear an exemption lanyard.

Perhaps they disagree with being mandated to wear a mask and see the exemption lanyard as the most hassle free way of not complying with it?

I can only imagine the hassle they'd get from bedwetting, busybody, compliance Nazis if they didn't have a lan

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PF62 said:

cjs racing. said:

PF62 said:

My take is just to pity all those physically healthy individuals wearing lanyards who therefore must be exempt due to mental health issues, and then to ponder what traumatic event caused those big tough men to fear wearing a face covering for a few minutes.

3 years ago my brother took his life by hanging.

It was later shown he probably changed his mind, and fought to save himself.

Ever since I have real issues with things around my neck, or over my mouth, basically anything that even begins to possibly restrict breathing.

I can now only were polo tops, or shirts unbuttoned a long way, a T shirt renders me unable to breath.

I do hope that this is traumatic enough for you to forgive me for not wearing a mask.

Stop being so judgmental.

You have my sympathy for your mental condition which prevents you wearing a face covering.

But I do find it quite surprising how many men suffer from a psychological issue which allows them to wear an exemption lanyard.

Perhaps they disagree with being mandated to wear a mask and see the exemption lanyard as the most hassle free way of not complying with it?

I can only imagine the hassle they'd get from bedwetting, busybody, compliance Nazis if they didn't have a lanyard.

[JagLover]

anonymoususer said:

I see my theory that posters with numbers in their user names are more than likely tw*ts is still a viable theory

What about posters who try and remain anonymous?. They must be a bit dodgy

[markyb_lcy]

JagLover said:

anonymoususer said:

I see my theory that posters with numbers in their user names are more than likely tw*ts is still a viable theory

What about posters who try and remain anonymous?. They must be a bit dodgy

Heh. User with unimaginative username in criticising users with unimaginative usernames shocker.

[cjs racing.]

I don't wear a lanyard, but the extent of my shopping is Tesco once a fortnight.

I've had only 2 people ask about my lack of mask, both were polite, and assumed I had forgot it. Both were civil when I said I was exempt, I guess I must be lucky.

Despite living 3 miles from a market town, I have not been there since February.

Amazon has been a lifesaver.

[toastybase]

It depends on how many people take them at the same time with a vaccine in place we will not have to eat out to help out.

[TheJimi]

TheJimi said:

PF62 said:

Funny username said:

PF62 said:

Those physically healthy men wearing exemption lanyards I encountered were certainly not deaf or with someone deaf, so I think it reasonable to conclude they were suffering a mental illness.

Whether that was from being raped or some other traumatic event I obviously don’t know, but my sympathy is with them.

Are you ok with children not wearing masks?

Of course.

The same as I am ok with physically healthy men wearing exemption lanyards because they are suffering from a mental illnesses.

Ok, so what's your thoughts on this? - https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises...

Reasoned scientific argument. What's your response? Does the author have a mental illness?

Well?

[breamster]

Cold said:

According to official advice, masks are only supposed to stop you from spreading your Covid infected breath to others. So if you don't have Covid then they're pointless.
Therefore, if you need to wear a mask to stop you spreading your Covid around why are you even out of the house?

Because some lucky people are asymptomatic when infected with COVID. You can have COVID and have no symptoms but you can still infect others.

[Jinx]

breamster said:

Because some lucky people are asymptomatic when infected with COVID. You can have COVID and have no symptoms but you can still infect others.

We keep hearing the above but the studies showing this are extremely limited (and frequently mix presymptomatic and asymptomatic cases together). Most upper respiratory tract infections spread via droplets pushed out via coughing and sneezing - both symptoms in a fully developing disease and all our protocols for dealing with these types of disease are based on that knowledge. As these haven't worked the "asymptomatic" carrier is considered the vector - but with little tested evidence.
One paper that keeps being used for the "We know that people with SARS-CoV-2 infection but no symptoms can still spread the virus to others" is this one which isn't exactly conclusive. I'm still searching for papers on asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 spread and the defined vectors (a paper on viral shedding in asymptomatic cases would be good) that are not mere model based with the ready assumption of asymptomatic spread.

[stevensdrs]

breamster said:

Cold said:

According to official advice, masks are only supposed to stop you from spreading your Covid infected breath to others. So if you don't have Covid then they're pointless.
Therefore, if you need to wear a mask to stop you spreading your Covid around why are you even out of the house?

Because some lucky people are asymptomatic when infected with COVID. You can have COVID and have no symptoms but you can still infect others.

Wearing a piece of cloth will make no difference to the risk of asymptomatic people spreading the virus. Spreading the virus through the population as quickly as possible is actually the best defense against the virus as you deprive it of potential hosts. This is the complete opposite of the current strategy which you may have noticed is failing all over the world. Shield the vulnerable if they wish to be shielded and let the rest of us get back to living a normal life.

[hotchy]

toastybase said:

It depends on how many people take them at the same time with a vaccine in place we will not have to eat out to help out.

Dont be daft, I want that scheme to start again, I enjoyed going out 5 times a week instead of my usual 2 lol