If masks become compulsory in shops (Vol. 2)
Discussion
TheJimi said:
paulguitar said:
WinstonWolf said:
If you've got some spare time this is worth a read. I suspect the reason the Danish study it taking time to publish is because it's politically inconvenient and shows masks do more harm than good
https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises...
Very interesting and well-written, thank you for the link.https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises...
I'm probably asking this question in the wrong place, but can anyone point me to a decent essay from a scientist that is pro mask?
Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 27th October 21:54
A simple question that no one has yet answered, if they work why are 'cases' rising?
TheJimi said:
can anyone point me to a decent essay from a scientist that is pro mask?
Plenty of evidence that masks reduce the spread of droplets and this explains why advice changed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edYGqI5BOpc
WinstonWolf said:
A simple question that no one has yet answered, if they work why are 'cases' rising?
At a guess, because they are only a small part of the measures needed to reduce cases. If you assume mask use is fairly even across the country then why are cases increasing massively in specific areas? Can only be person to person so down to behavior. If the reduction in transmission from the use of masks is overwhelmed by the behavior of people in certain areas you will get increases? JagLover said:
Yes
Most of this is driven by ignorance of how viruses usually behave and which is presented by the media as some scary new thing with this virus.
Post viral fatigue is common and has been known about for years. It is far lower in Covid-19 patients than in those recovering from Glandular fever. I cannot find the stats online, but 1.5% after three months is probably the same sort of percentage as those recovering from seasonal Flu.
Heart inflammation is also common with a serious viral infection.
I had glandular fever as a teenager - two weeks bedrest then nearly a year of general lethargy. Most of this is driven by ignorance of how viruses usually behave and which is presented by the media as some scary new thing with this virus.
Post viral fatigue is common and has been known about for years. It is far lower in Covid-19 patients than in those recovering from Glandular fever. I cannot find the stats online, but 1.5% after three months is probably the same sort of percentage as those recovering from seasonal Flu.
Heart inflammation is also common with a serious viral infection.
I think it would be interesting to see - if it was announced that wearing masks was pointless and so no need anymore - how many people would carry on wearing them.
The amount of people I see walking along deserted streets or alone in a car or out in a park well away from other people with the things strapped tightly across their faces.
I think it's become a comfort blanket for many.
Also, am I alone in noticing that maybe 80% of people wearing a mask where it's clearly unnecessary (as in the examples above and similar) are women?
The amount of people I see walking along deserted streets or alone in a car or out in a park well away from other people with the things strapped tightly across their faces.
I think it's become a comfort blanket for many.
Also, am I alone in noticing that maybe 80% of people wearing a mask where it's clearly unnecessary (as in the examples above and similar) are women?
Ari said:
Also, am I alone in noticing that maybe 80% of people wearing a mask where it's clearly unnecessary (as in the examples above and similar) are women?
Not sure about women, but 100% of them look sickly and miserable. Shuffling along the street like that with that blue f
king mask on their faces. 
vixen1700 said:
Ari said:
Also, am I alone in noticing that maybe 80% of people wearing a mask where it's clearly unnecessary (as in the examples above and similar) are women?
Not sure about women, but 100% of them look sickly and miserable. Shuffling along the street like that with that blue fking mask on their faces. Ari said:
Also, am I alone in noticing that maybe 80% of people wearing a mask where it's clearly unnecessary (as in the examples above and similar) are women?
WestyCarl said:
Ari said:
Also, am I alone in noticing that maybe 80% of people wearing a mask where it's clearly unnecessary (as in the examples above and similar) are women?
Shows me how much faith I should have in government guidelines.
Ari said:
I think it would be interesting to see - if it was announced that wearing masks was pointless and so no need anymore - how many people would carry on wearing them.
The amount of people I see walking along deserted streets or alone in a car or out in a park well away from other people with the things strapped tightly across their faces.
I think it's become a comfort blanket for many.
Also, am I alone in noticing that maybe 80% of people wearing a mask where it's clearly unnecessary (as in the examples above and similar) are women?
As the mask mandate for shops was approaching my area was in or was about to go into special measures and I'd say 3 or 4 out of 10 people were wearing them. It was mainly women. I think if the mandate was dropped the numbers would be down to around that or perhaps 2 out of 10. The amount of people I see walking along deserted streets or alone in a car or out in a park well away from other people with the things strapped tightly across their faces.
I think it's become a comfort blanket for many.
Also, am I alone in noticing that maybe 80% of people wearing a mask where it's clearly unnecessary (as in the examples above and similar) are women?
I can understand people wearing them on a high street between shops.
Last Sunday I saw a woman (late 30's/early 40's) walking down a road on the outskirts of town. She was at least a mile from anywhere you'd need to wear one, yet she had a face mask on. If she'd had a scarf wrapped around her neck/face it might not have looked so odd. The fact it was one of these masks you've never seen anyone wear before Covid was strange.
MaxFromage said:
There's clearly widely varying views/adherence out there. In Birmingham city centre I saw far more people wearing masks outside than I expected, maybe 20%. And then inside the Bullring, 20-30% at times didn't have masks on. Again, surprising.
It seems to flip flop week on week in my local town. One week everyone seems to be wearing a mask outside and then a week later almost no one. Funny username said:
99.5% uptake in all shops/indoor scenarios I reckon at the minute.
Seems odd how numbers of cases are claiming though.
Masks have done nothing to reduce the number of infections. Some blame it on social distancing not being adhered to when in public places, but I think that's a reach. Seems odd how numbers of cases are claiming though.
Funny username said:
Thin White Duke said:
Masks have done nothing to reduce the number of infections. Some blame it on social distancing not being adhered to when in public places, but I think that's a reach.
If that’s true, then why are masks still mandatory?And this: https://www.coronababble.com/post/five-good-reason...
Essentially they are being used to maintain the fear factor and keep us compliant. They are the most visible form of showing we are/are not conforming to the rules.
Thin White Duke said:
Sigh. Please read this, in particular the section about masks. https://www.coronababble.com/post/how-the-mean-psy...
And this: https://www.coronababble.com/post/five-good-reason...
Essentially they are being used to maintain the fear factor and keep us compliant. They are the most visible form of showing we are/are not conforming to the rules.
I’ve never worn one, never will. I’m just playing devils advocate to see what the general consensus is regarding masks against cases.And this: https://www.coronababble.com/post/five-good-reason...
Essentially they are being used to maintain the fear factor and keep us compliant. They are the most visible form of showing we are/are not conforming to the rules.
Thin White Duke said:
Sigh. Please read this, in particular the section about masks. https://www.coronababble.com/post/how-the-mean-psy...
And this: https://www.coronababble.com/post/five-good-reason...
Essentially they are being used to maintain the fear factor and keep us compliant. They are the most visible form of showing we are/are not conforming to the rules.
A home created website called "Coronababble" And this: https://www.coronababble.com/post/five-good-reason...
Essentially they are being used to maintain the fear factor and keep us compliant. They are the most visible form of showing we are/are not conforming to the rules.
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