Lineker out-wokes Lily Allen

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markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
Someone vetted and picked a suitable candidate then? Exactly like what a lot of people want to happen to refugees and migrants to ensure they'll bring something to this country, yet Lineker shouts them down as racist on Twitter biggrin
Racist also to perform dental checks to approximate age of individuals when they throw thier id away. As mentioned previously on this thread he’s been backed into a corner. Probably gets his Range Rover washed by this individuals mates, or his hotel bed changed by girls from the same village.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Gadgetmac said:
Brilliant, all of the PH sleuths have now come to the conclusion that Lineker hand picked his refugee with not an ounce of evidence. Love it.

laugh

Probably the same people who said he would never take one in.
I don't think anyone said that. Rather correctly highlighting that the chap was selected/ vetted by the charity.

What would be the alternative process, Gary insisting the charity select one at random, or them deciding that was the fairest way, accepting the risk of bad PR and fuelling anti migrant sentiment if this candidate turned out to be unsavoury?

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
Brilliant, all of the PH sleuths have now come to the conclusion that Lineker hand picked his refugee with not an ounce of evidence. Love it.

laugh

Probably the same people who said he would never take one in.
I don't think anyone said that. Rather correctly highlighting that the chap was selected/ vetted by the charity.

What would be the alternative process, Gary insisting the charity select one at random, or them deciding that was the fairest way, accepting the risk of bad PR and fuelling anti migrant sentiment if this candidate turned out to be unsavoury?
Do you have some evidence for this? Anything at all to back up your assertion?

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
GL: We should do more to help refugees.

Internet: You wouldn't have one living in your home, you bloody hypocrite

GL: I'm opening up my home to a refugee.

Internet: You virtue signalling tt.
Just looking back and this is so true.

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
Brilliant, all of the PH sleuths have now come to the conclusion that Lineker hand picked his refugee with not an ounce of evidence. Love it.

laugh

Probably the same people who said he would never take one in.
I don't think anyone said that. Rather correctly highlighting that the chap was selected/ vetted by the charity.
Then you'd be wrong...


pquinn said:
Like other people who said they'd take in refugees, or people who said they'd leave the country over various things, I'll believe it when it actually happens.
biggrin

Countdown

39,889 posts

196 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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catweasle said:
Frothers? what a stupid thing to say.....he had someone handpick a a "suitable candidate" for him, he didn't exactly take the next one in line or stand on Admiralty pier and taking the 1st one to land home to meet his Mrs did he?

As I said before....he took the easy tap in as he did in his footy career.......you BBC employee?
If he'd walked down to the beach and just picked somebody at random do you think that would have stopped the criticism?

I don't think so. There are some PHers who hate refugees/asylum-seekers coming to the UK, for whatever reason. And anybody who dares to help them is subject to the same hate/vitriol. It doesn't matter how small or large the gesture. It won't be "enough" and there will be ulterior motives. It's disgusting but that's NP&E for you.

Lineker is loaded. He appears to have a decent happy contented life. He didn't need to do this and he must have known the hate that it would generate. But he still did it - all credit to him, in my opinion.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Gadgetmac said:
R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
Brilliant, all of the PH sleuths have now come to the conclusion that Lineker hand picked his refugee with not an ounce of evidence. Love it.

laugh

Probably the same people who said he would never take one in.
I don't think anyone said that. Rather correctly highlighting that the chap was selected/ vetted by the charity.
Then you'd be wrong...


pquinn said:
Like other people who said they'd take in refugees, or people who said they'd leave the country over various things, I'll believe it when it actually happens.
biggrin
I was referring to hand picked

There was something in an article stating they were selected by the charity. Do you have evidence it was a random selection?

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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R Mutt said:
I was referring to hand picked

There was something in an article stating they were selected by the charity. Do you have evidence it was a random selection?
I don't need to have evidence, you are the one making the claim. That's how it works.

1. Make claim

2. Substantiate claim with evidence

98elise

26,596 posts

161 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Gadgetmac said:
R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
Brilliant, all of the PH sleuths have now come to the conclusion that Lineker hand picked his refugee with not an ounce of evidence. Love it.

laugh

Probably the same people who said he would never take one in.
I don't think anyone said that. Rather correctly highlighting that the chap was selected/ vetted by the charity.
Then you'd be wrong...


pquinn said:
Like other people who said they'd take in refugees, or people who said they'd leave the country over various things, I'll believe it when it actually happens.
biggrin
To be fair I thought it was an offer of a permanent bed. Is it normal for a refugee to spend a short period in someone's home? Where has he gone now?

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Gadgetmac said:
R Mutt said:
I was referring to hand picked

There was something in an article stating they were selected by the charity. Do you have evidence it was a random selection?
I don't need to have evidence, you are the one making the claim. That's how it works.

1. Make claim

2. Substantiate claim with evidence
Same charity. I suppose you will deny that a vetting process amounts to any form of selection but your assertion is that it was random,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/re...

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
R Mutt said:
I was referring to hand picked

There was something in an article stating they were selected by the charity. Do you have evidence it was a random selection?
I don't need to have evidence, you are the one making the claim. That's how it works.

1. Make claim

2. Substantiate claim with evidence
Same charity. I suppose you will deny that a vetting process amounts to any form of selection but your assertion is that it was random,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/re...
So that's a no then. hehe

My assertion is that he personally did not have pick who he was given.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Gadgetmac said:
R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
R Mutt said:
I was referring to hand picked

There was something in an article stating they were selected by the charity. Do you have evidence it was a random selection?
I don't need to have evidence, you are the one making the claim. That's how it works.

1. Make claim

2. Substantiate claim with evidence
Same charity. I suppose you will deny that a vetting process amounts to any form of selection but your assertion is that it was random,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/re...
So that's a no then. hehe
To it being random? Yes.

You must be trolling now after you have realised the absurdity of suggesting that Lineker and the charity would just take the risk with a random candidate

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
R Mutt said:
I was referring to hand picked

There was something in an article stating they were selected by the charity. Do you have evidence it was a random selection?
I don't need to have evidence, you are the one making the claim. That's how it works.

1. Make claim

2. Substantiate claim with evidence
Same charity. I suppose you will deny that a vetting process amounts to any form of selection but your assertion is that it was random,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/re...
So that's a no then. hehe
To it being random? Yes.

You must be trolling now after you have realised the absurdity of suggesting that Lineker and the charity would just take the risk with a random candidate
That's only one person trolling here and it's the one that's upset that GL actually went ahead with what he said he'd do and take in a refugee.

So again you are saying Lineker hand picked his refugee.

Please substantiate this. The fact that the charity vetted the refugee is not evidence that GL did.

pquinn

7,167 posts

46 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Gadgetmac said:
Please substantiate this.
Try the same with your claims.

Still waiting to see much evidence of anything beyond a letter that could have been knocked up by his PA. Seems he got incredibly lucky with his random choice of a refugee - invisible, single, didn't hang around, and great language skills.

R Mutt

5,891 posts

72 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Gadgetmac said:
That's only one person trolling here and it's the one that's upset that GL actually went ahead with what he said he'd do and take in a refugee.

So again you are saying Lineker hand picked his refugee.

Please substantiate this. The fact that the charity vetted the refugee is not evidence that GL did.
Due to the publicity surrounding this the candidate would have been subject to greater scrutiny. So by extension, Lineker at least by his mere status, rather than direct request, has contributed to this selection process. I'm not sure who suggested he was hand selected by Lineker, but I didn't so I don't need to substantiate that. Either way there was a vetting process as shown.

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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R Mutt said:
Gadgetmac said:
That's only one person trolling here and it's the one that's upset that GL actually went ahead with what he said he'd do and take in a refugee.

So again you are saying Lineker hand picked his refugee.

Please substantiate this. The fact that the charity vetted the refugee is not evidence that GL did.
Due to the publicity surrounding this the candidate would have been subject to greater scrutiny. So by extension, Lineker at least by his mere status, rather than direct request, has contributed to this selection process. I'm not sure who suggested he was hand selected by Lineker, but I didn't so I don't need to substantiate that. Either way there was a vetting process as shown.
Good we agree that GL likely had nothing to do with the actual selection of the refugee.

It's a bit like fostering a child where I'm lead to believe that a child is vetted and placed with you for a while, you don't choose who that child is but can return them if it becomes apparent it's not the right fit.

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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pquinn said:
Gadgetmac said:
Please substantiate this.
Try the same with your claims.

Still waiting to see much evidence of anything beyond a letter that could have been knocked up by his PA. Seems he got incredibly lucky with his random choice of a refugee - invisible, single, didn't hang around, and great language skills.
I don't need to, I'm not making any claims rolleyes

How's that prediction that he wouldn't take one panning out? biggrin

Oakey

27,567 posts

216 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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I don't care either way about any of this, I'm just surprised how many people are willing to accept one handwritten letter as evidence of anything.