Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 5)

[Red 4]

bhstewie said:

Red 4 said:

Tuna said:

It's depressing how keen the people who talk about kindness and fairness are to label others as 'deplorable'.

Poor attempt at spin. 1/10.

It's as simple as knowing right from wrong and calling BS on those who deserve it.

I would have thought you'd learned your lesson by now. Clearly not.

Are you still on the special little block script our champion of free speech uses?

I think there's something wrong with Tuna to be honest.

Now, I'm not mocking him here, just to be clear, but someone who has so many contrary opinions and doesn't practice what they preach must be having a constant battle with himself inside his own head. That can't be nice.

Either that or they're a pathological liar (aka bullstter/ Walt/ charlatan, etc).

I'm being kind and sympathetic here, for the avoidance of doubt, so as not to be labelled deplorable. Bless.

[IforB]

Tuna said:

IforB said:

All this has reminded me of, is just how unpleasant you appear to be based upon your posts.

You may want to reflect on that. Sneering is never a good look.

You will be unsurprised to learn I'm not here for your approval.

It's depressing how keen the people who talk about kindness and fairness are to label others as 'deplorable'. Even as I type this I know you'll be categorising it as a defence of some political position that you disapprove of. What it is to be misunderstood...

That is lucky, as going by your posting history, you are firmly lodged in the pile marked "people who give this country a bad name."

Your comments, as are those of anyone supporting the Government stance (and let us remember that the stance is to do nothing about the very real need to feed hungry children right now) is utterly deplorable. This can easily be translated into thinking that the person making those comments is themselves utterly deplorable.

I am amazed by the continuing race to the bottom by many of this thread who are almost tripping over themselves in an attempt to be as dreadful as possible.

Justifying the continued existence of hungry children and the total inaction by Government to actually do anything about it, when they have the opportunity to do so, is truly breath-taking.

I am sure you are proud of yourself for some things in your life. This is not one of them.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

IforB said:

That is lucky, as going by your posting history, you are firmly lodged in the pile marked "people who give this country a bad name."

Your comments, as are those of anyone supporting the Government stance (and let us remember that the stance is to do nothing about the very real need to feed hungry children right now) is utterly deplorable. This can easily be translated into thinking that the person making those comments is themselves utterly deplorable.

I am amazed by the continuing race to the bottom by many of this thread who are almost tripping over themselves in an attempt to be as dreadful as possible.

Justifying the continued existence of hungry children and the total inaction by Government to actually do anything about it, when they have the opportunity to do so, is truly breath-taking.

I am sure you are proud of yourself for some things in your life. This is not one of them.

How about you accept people can have a different opinion to you and stop trying to shame then into agreeing with you.

[Carl_Manchester]

Disastrous said:

What was starkly clear is that *we* have no idea about the types of choices that these people have to make many times a day.

That is a nonsense, you don't speak for me and plenty of people here, like myself, were kids in the early eighties and saw hard choices first hand.

The Conservatives are seen in many parts of the country as the party for working people and that's why they keep getting voted in by people like myself.

We have done the government spending thing to death on this forum many times, the facts are that the Tax Credit system and the State Pension were prioritized at huge cost and the numbers are increasingly eye-watering.

The votes were lost to reform the Tax Credit system in the previous parliament, I would be happy to support school meals if the money comes directly from savings in Tax Credit system because, that's why government continued to expand the Tax Credit system in the first place, to assist struggling families and children.

Using the Tax Credit system is more efficient than free school meals but it assumes the parents have a job and spend the money wisely. I am sorry but I am not convinced free school meals will eradicate child hunger.

[Disastrous]

Carl_Manchester said:

Disastrous said:

What was starkly clear is that *we* have no idea about the types of choices that these people have to make many times a day.

That is a nonsense, you don't speak for me and plenty of people here, like myself, were kids in the early eighties and saw hard choices first hand.

The Conservatives are seen in many parts of the country as the party for working people and that's why they keep getting voted in by people like myself.

We have done the government spending thing to death on this forum many times, the facts are that the Tax Credit system and the State Pension were prioritized at huge cost and the numbers are increasingly eye-watering.

The votes were lost to reform the Tax Credit system in the previous parliament, I would be happy to support school meals if the money comes directly from savings in Tax Credit system because, that's why government continued to expand the Tax Credit system in the first place, to assist struggling families and children.

Using the Tax Credit system is more efficient than free school meals but it assumes the parents have a job and spend the money wisely. I am sorry but I am not convinced free school meals will eradicate child hunger.

You've clipped that out of context and missed the point of my post, which was that in almost all those cases of horrendously hard choices being made, the families were working-poor.

"Conservatives as the party for the working people"

You're right - I don't speak for you.

[IforB]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

IforB said:

That is lucky, as going by your posting history, you are firmly lodged in the pile marked "people who give this country a bad name."

Your comments, as are those of anyone supporting the Government stance (and let us remember that the stance is to do nothing about the very real need to feed hungry children right now) is utterly deplorable. This can easily be translated into thinking that the person making those comments is themselves utterly deplorable.

I am amazed by the continuing race to the bottom by many of this thread who are almost tripping over themselves in an attempt to be as dreadful as possible.

Justifying the continued existence of hungry children and the total inaction by Government to actually do anything about it, when they have the opportunity to do so, is truly breath-taking.

I am sure you are proud of yourself for some things in your life. This is not one of them.

How about you accept people can have a different opinion to you and stop trying to shame then into agreeing with you.

Some people believe that treating someone differently because of the colour of their skin is acceptable. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that women should be subordinate to men in all things. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that it is acceptable to abuse children. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that it is OK for a Government to waste billions on a track and trace system that doesn't work, but then not spend a fraction of the cost on making sure vulnerable children don't go hungry. Why the hell would I accept that?

[monkfish1]

Disastrous said:

You've clipped that out of context and missed the point of my post, which was that in almost all those cases of horrendously hard choices being made, the families were working-poor.

"Conservatives as the party for the working people"

You're right - I don't speak for you.

Is there a party for "working people" now?

[Stay in Bed Instead]

IforB said:

Some people believe that treating someone differently because of the colour of their skin is acceptable. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that women should be subordinate to men in all things. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that it is acceptable to abuse children. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that it is OK for a Government to waste billions on a track and trace system that doesn't work, but then not spend a fraction of the cost on making sure vulnerable children don't go hungry. Why the hell would I accept that?

Get a grip!

[bitchstewie]

McDonald's stepping in too.

2020 and private businesses stepping in to ensure kids get fed.

You do have to genuinely wonder whether Boris is sitting in Downing Street watching this unfold and patting himself on the back thinking "Yeah this is exactly the look we're going for".

[Helicopter123]

bhstewie said:

McDonald's stepping in too.

2020 and private businesses stepping in to ensure kids get fed.

You do have to genuinely wonder whether Boris is sitting in Downing Street watching this unfold and patting himself on the back thinking "Yeah this is exactly the look we're going for".

It's fantastic to see on the one hand, but then on the other tragic to see the dereliction of duty from Boris and the Conservatives.

[amusingduck]

IforB said:

Some people believe that treating someone differently because of the colour of their skin is acceptable. Should I accept that?

That's the 'progressive' stance according to some

[IforB]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

IforB said:

Some people believe that treating someone differently because of the colour of their skin is acceptable. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that women should be subordinate to men in all things. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that it is acceptable to abuse children. Should I accept that?

Some people believe that it is OK for a Government to waste billions on a track and trace system that doesn't work, but then not spend a fraction of the cost on making sure vulnerable children don't go hungry. Why the hell would I accept that?

Get a grip!

If you didn't write such silly things, then you might find it wasn't so easy to drive a coach and horses through your posts.

[JagLover]

Good to see these fast food giants using their marketing budget for good for once.

As we become an increasingly poorer country due to lockdown we are going to need private organisations willing to step up to the plate and assist those in need.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

bhstewie said:

McDonald's stepping in too.

2020 and private businesses stepping in to ensure kids get fed.

You do have to genuinely wonder whether Boris is sitting in Downing Street watching this unfold and patting himself on the back thinking "Yeah this is exactly the look we're going for".

Effective advertising, why not.

[anonymous-user]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

IforB said:

That is lucky, as going by your posting history, you are firmly lodged in the pile marked "people who give this country a bad name."

Your comments, as are those of anyone supporting the Government stance (and let us remember that the stance is to do nothing about the very real need to feed hungry children right now) is utterly deplorable. This can easily be translated into thinking that the person making those comments is themselves utterly deplorable.

I am amazed by the continuing race to the bottom by many of this thread who are almost tripping over themselves in an attempt to be as dreadful as possible.

Justifying the continued existence of hungry children and the total inaction by Government to actually do anything about it, when they have the opportunity to do so, is truly breath-taking.

I am sure you are proud of yourself for some things in your life. This is not one of them.

How about you accept people can have a different opinion to you and stop trying to shame then into agreeing with you.

Well I never though I would be saying this...good post

[bitchstewie]

Helicopter123 said:

bhstewie said:

McDonald's stepping in too.

2020 and private businesses stepping in to ensure kids get fed.

You do have to genuinely wonder whether Boris is sitting in Downing Street watching this unfold and patting himself on the back thinking "Yeah this is exactly the look we're going for".

It's fantastic to see on the one hand, but then on the other tragic to see the dereliction of duty from Boris and the Conservatives.

"levelling up"

[Stay in Bed Instead]

IforB said:

If you didn't write such silly things, then you might find it wasn't so easy to drive a coach and horses through your posts.

You drove nothing, unless it was a Virtue Signalling MKIV.

[Unknown_User]

Some councils are now starting to step in and support our most vulnerable little ones.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54657796

[bitchstewie]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

Effective advertising, why not.

Quite right.

McDonald's get that they'll gain far more in good will and positive publicity than the monetary amount this will cost them.

The Government don't appear to.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

bhstewie said:

Quite right.

McDonald's get that they'll gain far more in good will and positive publicity than the monetary amount this will cost them.

The Government don't appear to.

Probably because it's harder for the Government to ignore the commitment once the advertising benefit has passed. And the Government already spends billions every year giving free money to parents, what do McDonalds do?

Edited by Stay in Bed Instead on Friday 23 October 16:55