Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 5)
Discussion
mike74 said:
IforB said:
I think you should stop posting, as my next response to you is likely to get us both banned from the site.
Genuinely. You appear to not be a very nice human-being. I would suggest that as today is Sunday, you may want to go and find a church service somewhere and stop and have a think about what you are saying.
Thank you for the advice.Genuinely. You appear to not be a very nice human-being. I would suggest that as today is Sunday, you may want to go and find a church service somewhere and stop and have a think about what you are saying.
It's a shame you're concerned about getting yourself banned from the site due to you having reactionary, irrational, emotional responses to a subject rather being able to analyse and reasonably debate the issue from all angles and viewpoints.
Hopefully you can learn to control your emotions and remain a contributor on here (for what it's worth)
When you come across people who quite clearly are emotionally abnormal, then you try to be empathetic, but sometimes it is just best to take a step back and ignore.
Your meanness is likely to be unintentional, so I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt as I have no idea of what has happened to make you to be so emotionally bereft, but rather than just calling you names, I can give you the opportunity to recognise your behaviour and modify it.
It is up to you whether you accept this olive branch.
El stovey said:
That’s the issue, another important appointment made due to support for Boris not ability. The result is more waste and a system still not working and someone incompetent running it.
Nepotism and cronyism again shown not to be good methods of deciding roles especially in a crisis.
Honestly I couldn't have told you a single thing about her views on Brexit or her support for Johnson when she was appointed and I couldn't now.Nepotism and cronyism again shown not to be good methods of deciding roles especially in a crisis.
There's just a basic sniff test I think which is whether the best person to run a Test and Trace scheme during a pandemic is someone with no experience of healthcare and who was in charge of a company given a record fine for failing to protect their customers data.
Still, experts eh.
IforB said:
That's the problem with having a normal range of human emotions.
When you come across people who quite clearly are emotionally abnormal, then you try to be empathetic, but sometimes it is just best to take a step back and ignore.
Your meanness is likely to be unintentional, so I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt as I have no idea of what has happened to make you to be so emotionally bereft, but rather than just calling you names, I can give you the opportunity to recognise your behaviour and modify it.
It is up to you whether you accept this olive branch.
Are you intentionally being so nasty or is it just a hidden talent?When you come across people who quite clearly are emotionally abnormal, then you try to be empathetic, but sometimes it is just best to take a step back and ignore.
Your meanness is likely to be unintentional, so I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt as I have no idea of what has happened to make you to be so emotionally bereft, but rather than just calling you names, I can give you the opportunity to recognise your behaviour and modify it.
It is up to you whether you accept this olive branch.
Shadow mental health minister and ex swimwear model (and doctor) Rosena (watch your tone) Allin-Khan talking eloquently about track and trace and generally looking hot making sensible suggestions about stuff on sky news.
She’s definitely helping improve my well-being today and encouraging a boost in positivity. Oh yes.
She’s definitely helping improve my well-being today and encouraging a boost in positivity. Oh yes.
GrizzlyBear said:
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Fairly awful conversions about how parents of hungry children must be lazy and feckless is exactly the kind of harm that comes from the government's confused position. Same as that awful Devon MP suggesting businesses who have offered children free meals ought not receive government support.
Johnson needs to get a f
king grip because the country is going to hell in a handcart whilst he potters about.
Glad to hear that someone else gets the point, even if the kids parents are fools who have kids for the benefits, THE KID IS STILL HUNGRY!!! and that is not the child's fault, they are a child and can't do anything about it. So unless the Government tell people they aren't allowed to breed unless they can pass a common sense test.Johnson needs to get a f
king grip because the country is going to hell in a handcart whilst he potters about.The state has to step up, I never had kids, but when I think about what my taxes are spent on, I hear all the allowances MPs get (obviously thought up by MPs for MPs), and then I hear that some poor child, who through no fault of their own is going hungry in a first world country! but some MPs don't want to fund it I think how corrupt the current system is.
It's right wing views like those of mike74 and others on here that I find pretty repellent to be honest. Almost no compassion and all about finger pointing at 'feckless wasters'.
I think there are issues with the benefits system and I certainly don't think there should be more cash just bandied around but there is definitely societal problems regarding food that I don't think existed when I was a child in the 80's (or if there were I wasn't aware of them as it was pre-internet obviously).
I don't think the reason there are so many food banks and issues with hunger is just down to people being feckless, popping out kids and spaffing money on TVs and tattoos but doubtless many on here think that is exactly the reason they exist.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Patel still in bother too it seems.
Keep in mind apparently Buckland and Braverman warned her to tone down her grubby rhetoric.
Priti Patel kept up anti-lawyer rhetoric after Met warning on terror
Why it matters
Man faces terror charge over alleged attack at immigration law firm
She's also had to withdraw at least one tweet over concerns it might influence an ongoing criminal trial.
Not good.
It is unsurprising. She is a very unpleasant individual and really not very bright either.Keep in mind apparently Buckland and Braverman warned her to tone down her grubby rhetoric.
Priti Patel kept up anti-lawyer rhetoric after Met warning on terror
Why it matters
Man faces terror charge over alleged attack at immigration law firm
She's also had to withdraw at least one tweet over concerns it might influence an ongoing criminal trial.
Not good.
I've met her a few times through work (she is the MP for where a previous company was based) and she just seemed to be one of those people who walked around with a permanent sneer on her face as if she wiped dog poo on her top lip without realising it.
Alucidnation said:
Occasionally!
Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of st.
HTH
That's a poor post, you should be better than that. On what basis are you calling IforB a liar?Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of s
t.HTH
El stovey said:
Shadow mental health minister and ex swimwear model (and doctor) Rosena (watch your tone) Allin-Khan talking eloquently about track and trace and generally looking hot making sensible suggestions about stuff on sky news.
She’s definitely helping improve my well-being today and encouraging a boost in positivity. Oh yes.
She is a very impressive person. Compassionate, passionate, hard working, smart as hell and fearless.She’s definitely helping improve my well-being today and encouraging a boost in positivity. Oh yes.
Exactly the sort of person we need representing us.
BigMon said:
Alucidnation said:
Occasionally!
Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of st.
HTH
That's a poor post, you should be better than that. On what basis are you calling IforB a liar?Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of s
t.HTH
Alucidnation said:
BigMon said:
Alucidnation said:
Occasionally!
Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of st.
HTH
That's a poor post, you should be better than that. On what basis are you calling IforB a liar?Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of s
t.HTH
Assuming he did get involved in feeding 12 families and possibly others, what have you done yourself that's similar in the past 24\48 hours?
El stovey said:
Sir Bernard Jenkin Calling for Boris’s chum Dido Harding to go.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-senior-cons...
He suggests control of test and trace should now be given to the military.
12 billion spent and SAGE saying it’s having “marginal impact” at best.
it always was likely to have a marginal impact. Tech driven solutions have proved not to be a magic wand, in the west at the any rate, as in the east they can be far more draconian. People have been reluctant to report all of their close contacts and many of us ignore unknown numbers calling their phones, I certainly do. Then you start getting to the peak of a wave of infections and it is 25K recorded new cases a day, with five or so close contacts each. https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-senior-cons...
He suggests control of test and trace should now be given to the military.
12 billion spent and SAGE saying it’s having “marginal impact” at best.
So you are struggling to notify a meaningful proportion of that 125k new contacts requiring to be isolated and then you have the obstacle that the estimate is that there is actually 60K new cases a day and we are only picking up 25K of them. Most people after all either have no symptoms or have symptoms no worse than a cold, so why are they going to get tested?.
Alucidnation said:
Occasionally!
Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of st.
HTH
What a surprise, yet another nasty, heartless post. You must be feeling very proud of yourself......Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of s
t.HTH
JagLover said:
it always was likely to have a marginal impact. Tech driven solutions have proved not to be a magic wand, in the west at the any rate, as in the east they can be far more draconian. People have been reluctant to report all of their close contacts and many of us ignore unknown numbers calling their phones, I certainly do. Then you start getting to the peak of a wave of infections and it is 25K recorded new cases a day, with five or so close contacts each.
So you are struggling to notify a meaningful proportion of that 125k new contacts requiring to be isolated and then you have the obstacle that the estimate is that there is actually 60K new cases a day and we are only picking up 25K of them. Most people after all either have no symptoms or have symptoms no worse than a cold, so why are they going to get tested?.
In which case, you have to ask, why bother paying 18,000 call centre people to do a job you know isn't worth doing?So you are struggling to notify a meaningful proportion of that 125k new contacts requiring to be isolated and then you have the obstacle that the estimate is that there is actually 60K new cases a day and we are only picking up 25K of them. Most people after all either have no symptoms or have symptoms no worse than a cold, so why are they going to get tested?.
Alucidnation said:
BigMon said:
Alucidnation said:
Occasionally!
Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of st.
HTH
That's a poor post, you should be better than that. On what basis are you calling IforB a liar?Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of s
t.HTH
Just noise and an attempt to get a reaction. In other words, trolling.
Fortunately, I prefer helping to feed hungry kids rather than trolls, so he can do one.
BigMon said:
Alucidnation said:
BigMon said:
Alucidnation said:
Occasionally!
Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of st.
HTH
That's a poor post, you should be better than that. On what basis are you calling IforB a liar?Anyhoo, if you were that concerned about 'feeding the children', you would not be giving PH a second thought as this would be your top priority.
Which it isn't.
Because you are full of s
t.HTH
Assuming he did get involved in feeding 12 families and possibly others, what have you done yourself that's similar in the past 24\48 hours?
Scraping every single barrel, finding any tiny morsel and forcing it upon everyone here, and now trying to prove he is better than everyone else by supposedly setting up some meals on wheels for the less fortunate, thinking it is sticking it to the man.
Me? I haven't done anything, but I am not pretending I have either (apart from our regular charity donations).
If someone asks me to help out then i will oblige.
IforB said:
This is like Trump shouting "fake news" whenever anyone says something he doesn't like.
Just noise and an attempt to get a reaction. In other words, trolling.
Fortunately, I prefer helping to feed hungry kids rather than trolls, so he can do one.
So how many hungry kids have you fed recently?Just noise and an attempt to get a reaction. In other words, trolling.
Fortunately, I prefer helping to feed hungry kids rather than trolls, so he can do one.
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
In which case, you have to ask, why bother paying 18,000 call centre people to do a job you know isn't worth doing?
Well a marginal difference might be thought worthwhile to some.The testing has value as it allows us to properly gauge the level of infections in different localities as well as arrive at more robust estimates for IFR. I don't think tracking and tracing adds much in my view.
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
In which case, you have to ask, why bother paying 18,000 call centre people to do a job you know isn't worth doing?
The govt going down rabbit holes chasing media approval?The psyche of people in this country is very different to those countries where these systems work (IMO). Compound that with our inability to make anything technical work at a national level and you have a recipe for disaster/wasted money.
Alucidnation said:
If it is genuine, and I am proved wrong then i will apologise, but his vitriol towards one person, is quite frankly, astonishing.
Scraping every single barrel, finding any tiny morsel and forcing it upon everyone here, and now trying to prove he is better than everyone else by supposedly setting up some meals on wheels for the less fortunate, thinking it is sticking it to the man.
Me? I haven't done anything, but I am not pretending I have either (apart from our regular charity donations).
If someone asks me to help out then i will oblige.
You’ve called him a liar, isn’t the onus on you to prove what you say?Scraping every single barrel, finding any tiny morsel and forcing it upon everyone here, and now trying to prove he is better than everyone else by supposedly setting up some meals on wheels for the less fortunate, thinking it is sticking it to the man.
Me? I haven't done anything, but I am not pretending I have either (apart from our regular charity donations).
If someone asks me to help out then i will oblige.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Patel still in bother too it seems.
Keep in mind apparently Buckland and Braverman warned her to tone down her grubby rhetoric.
Priti Patel kept up anti-lawyer rhetoric after Met warning on terror
Why it matters
Man faces terror charge over alleged attack at immigration law firm
She's also had to withdraw at least one tweet over concerns it might influence an ongoing criminal trial.
Not good.
Now now, play by the 'jakerule', you can't discuss Patel on this thread, this is for Boris only. But. Seeing as you have broken said rule. I genuinely view this closed minded ideologue as a threat to national security. She is so blinkered, so unable to think outside her marginal parameters, its only a matter of time before her actions have serious ramifications Keep in mind apparently Buckland and Braverman warned her to tone down her grubby rhetoric.
Priti Patel kept up anti-lawyer rhetoric after Met warning on terror
Why it matters
Man faces terror charge over alleged attack at immigration law firm
She's also had to withdraw at least one tweet over concerns it might influence an ongoing criminal trial.
Not good.
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