Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 5)
Discussion
deadslow said:
well they are an admirable bunch and are doing unbelievably great things for companies belonging to party donors or companies which have Tory MPs on the board of directors. Bravo!
Honestly the whole system is rotten.Norfolk MP defends £48,000 donations from duo with links to Russia
I mean I'm sure we have random British millionaires donating money to the MP's of obscure Russian seaside towns.
Meanwhile this hit the spot given poor old Johnson's alleged money troubles and recent events.
“You shouldn’t have had so many children if you can’t afford to support them”, Boris Johnson told
Carl_Manchester said:
Red 4 said:
I can't see that being popular somehow.
No it wouldn’t be and that’s why no government has managed to significantly reduce government spending without burning the country down, its not politically possible.what is realistic however, is to start prioritising the young over the old and i am hopeful that the pandemic can be used to seize that energy and push it into politics to drive change.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Meanwhile this hit the spot given poor old Johnson's alleged money troubles and recent events.
“You shouldn’t have had so many children if you can’t afford to support them”, Boris Johnson told
I've said it before but I think it's worth repeating.“You shouldn’t have had so many children if you can’t afford to support them”, Boris Johnson told
If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a t
t.Red 4 said:
I've said it before but I think it's worth repeating.
If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a tt.
How many does he supposedly have?If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a t
t.Stay in Bed Instead said:
Red 4 said:
I've said it before but I think it's worth repeating.
If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a tt.
How many does he supposedly have?If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a t
t.He tried to deny the existence of Stephanie though. He went to court an' evryfink.
Judge say "No". Poor Boris.
On the positive side for Stephanie, at least Boris didn't name her. His choices are, er, unique.
Red 4 said:
I've said it before but I think it's worth repeating.
If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a tt.
Oh if you called him Wayne and he came from a rough part of Dewsbury and had the same track record around women and kids he'd be precisely the sort of person most of this lot would be referring to as "feckless".If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a t
t.Posh accent and a few catchy slogans and watch how quick the same people leap to defend him when they think his "honour" has been called into question.
I never will get the cap doffers.
Anyway back to covid.
How teenagers ended up operating crucial parts of England’s test and trace system
No "world beating" comments this time.
Poor sods
How teenagers ended up operating crucial parts of England’s test and trace system
No "world beating" comments this time.
Poor sods
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Red 4 said:
I've said it before but I think it's worth repeating.
If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a tt.
Oh if you called him Wayne and he came from a rough part of Dewsbury and had the same track record around marriage and kids he'd be precisely the sort of person most of this lot would be referring to as "feckless".If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a t
t.Posh accent and a few catchy slogans and watch how quick the same people leap to defend him when they think his "honour" has been called into question.
I never will get the cap doffers.
Edited by bhstewie on Wednesday 28th October 16:04
hstewie on Wednesday 28th October 16:04Are there any nice bits ? I went there once. Whilst it was an experience I'm in no rush to go back.
That means I never will, if I can help it.
Gogoplata said:
A quick Google suggests that the councils anticipated that it would be spent within 12 weeks, not that the government told them to spend it within 12 weeks.
Not to be a pedant but because I found myself reading it and remembered this post.Government spin over child hunger and free school meals rapidly torn apart
Liverpool Echo so take with a kilo of salt but details some of the caveats of the funding and there are lots of reports that say the guidance issued with funding said “The government anticipates that most of the funding will be spent within 12 weeks.”
Crackie said:
Old information but Denmark appear to perform very well relative to UK and other European peers. Would also be good to know the background re the OECD study and how figures were derived.
The data's quite old, but most of the ones worse off than us in this respect aren't exactly tinpot nations either, and I would major most on here would be thinking we'd be worse than them.Comes back to my old favourite "poverty" once again
(I'll say no more, in this post at least, as it winds BS up ).Carl_Manchester said:
the £225bn a year social security bill is a testament to try and make sure that does not happen and there is enough money in that pot to solve this problem.
We are not a nation that is shy in spending money on social security.
I would be more than happy to vote for diverting money from inside that budget from pensioners to the young but people seem to want their cake and eat it.
Absolutely.We are not a nation that is shy in spending money on social security.
I would be more than happy to vote for diverting money from inside that budget from pensioners to the young but people seem to want their cake and eat it.
And this is where the Marcus' of this world have the upper hand - they do not have to balance what gets paid for and what doesn't.
I would, however, still ask the questions again...is the £53 per week already given to the single parent with 2 kids specifically to benefit the child/additional hardship provision (ie it is far from all they are in receipt of) not enough to ensure the kids get fed?
IforB said:
B'stard Child said:
B'stard Child said:
I think you need to get better at fishing - you'll not catch anyone with a technique that a obvious as that!
Thanks guys I was a page or so behind and as I posted that I thought "st - what if he did catch one"!Has Sir forgotten his other log in?
Amid France-Turkey row, UK calls on NATO allies to defend free speech
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france-security-...
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab called on NATO allies to stand shoulder-to-shoulder on values of tolerance and free speech, in a veiled rebuke to Turkey which has been calling for a boycott of French goods.
Some good news for a change
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france-security-...
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab called on NATO allies to stand shoulder-to-shoulder on values of tolerance and free speech, in a veiled rebuke to Turkey which has been calling for a boycott of French goods.
Some good news for a change
Red 4 said:
Yep, you're right. There are also more losers than winners under this new "levelling up, everyone gets the same" new State Pension iirc.
For example, my next door neighbour, a former Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Navy gets in excess of £200 per week on his state pension.
Now, he served his time and paid his NI but even if I pay the max in NI, I'm only going to get about £155 (ish).
Seems like progress. Not.
Is that just bog standard state pension rather than anything employment (within public service) related?For example, my next door neighbour, a former Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Navy gets in excess of £200 per week on his state pension.
Now, he served his time and paid his NI but even if I pay the max in NI, I'm only going to get about £155 (ish).
Seems like progress. Not.
How old are they/you? And were you contracted out?
AIUI the rules on state pension are very formulaic, so there'll be a good reason why he gets £45 more than you do. I would guess there will also be people who weren't Lieutenant Commanders in the RN who will also get more than you do. Possibly even people you think are lower down the pecking order
Carl_Manchester said:
Red 4 said:
I can't see that being popular somehow.
No it wouldn’t be and that’s why no government has managed to significantly reduce government spending without burning the country down, its not politically possible.what is realistic however, is to start prioritising the young over the old and i am hopeful that the pandemic can be used to seize that energy and push it into politics to drive change.
In the UK and most of the Western world, grief is greater for the loss of a child compared to an elder. We prize "potential" - whereas it's the opposite in the East, where experience and achievements are valued higher.
I find it strange that in certain sectors, your retirement can be quite lucrative by being a non-exec - popping in once or twice a month for some tea and biscuits, and chipping in with advice/anecdotes.
Yet we don't do this on the shop floor, or elsewhere.
It's left to Homebase to see the value of retired trades, in selling the right lawnmower or screw.
I'm reminded of when I managed to take my grandfather, crippled with arthritis, to Revival. When he apprenticed in the late 30s/early 40s before signing up at 18, it was on pre war Bentleys and the like. We spotted a stand with a rolling chassis and newly restored/converted 4 1/2l on it.
His rheumy eyes lit up - and the chaps on the stand demanded I leave him with them for an hour or two so they could pick his brains.
Just think what we could do if we tapped into that knowledge and experience instead of seeing it as a burden... Much more than small hands getting into nooks and crannies in the mines...
Red 4 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Red 4 said:
I've said it before but I think it's worth repeating.
If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a tt.
Oh if you called him Wayne and he came from a rough part of Dewsbury and had the same track record around marriage and kids he'd be precisely the sort of person most of this lot would be referring to as "feckless".If Johnson wasn't born into a life of privilege he'd be just another absent father with The CSA (or whatever they're called now) all over him.
The posh accent doesn't make him any less of a t
t.Posh accent and a few catchy slogans and watch how quick the same people leap to defend him when they think his "honour" has been called into question.
I never will get the cap doffers.
Edited by bhstewie on Wednesday 28th October 16:04
hstewie on Wednesday 28th October 16:04Are there any nice bits ? I went there once. Whilst it was an experience I'm in no rush to go back.
That means I never will, if I can help it.
Think it's because it was on the TV with that business when that woman "kidnapped" her own kid.
It's an interesting thought experiment if you stuck a few food vouchers in his pocket and changed the voice a bit whether the simpering adulation would be the same.
Suspect we both know the answer to that one
Murph7355 said:
Crackie said:
Old information but Denmark appear to perform very well relative to UK and other European peers. Would also be good to know the background re the OECD study and how figures were derived.
The data's quite old, but most of the ones worse off than us in this respect aren't exactly tinpot nations either, and I would major most on here would be thinking we'd be worse than them.Comes back to my old favourite "poverty" once again
(I'll say no more, in this post at least, as it winds BS up ).
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